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Post by dutyfree on Feb 4, 2022 16:46:27 GMT 12
Have a read, have your say.
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Post by GO30 on Feb 4, 2022 17:30:02 GMT 12
More of Akl Shitty Councils desire to govern on racist grounds for a small minority only.
During our work to try and stop all harbour users being screw up the butt by the Akl Shitty Council, mainly via Panuku, I was gobsmacked at how much pure corruption and totally disregard for the laws of this land that mob has. So much so I regard Vladimir Putin as being less corrupt and he's near as dodgy as they come but at least he doesn't pretend not to be.
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Post by GO30 on Mar 3, 2022 13:29:48 GMT 12
The Hauraki Gulf Forum has voted for co-governance. Despite a fantastic response to our campaign to retain democracy over the Hauraki Gulf Marine Park, the Forum has voted to diminish the public’s voice. With your support our petition gathered nearly 15,000 signatures in just three weeks, and 2,400 individual emails were sent to all elected representatives and the relevant Ministers. Thank you! Regrettably, some Forum members were not moved by the public’s response to the proposals. Some even appeared to be annoyed about our publicity campaign and seeing their name in the paper requesting they consult with the public, as in our full-page open letter to the Forum published in the NZ Herald and regional papers a few days before the vote.  Following an at times heated debate on Monday, the Hauraki Gulf Forum voted 11-7 in favour of changing its composition to that of a 50:50 co-governance body with mana whenua and ‘others’, including a proposal to develop its own statutory plans that could prevail over council policies and central government decision-making for matters in respect of the Hauraki Gulf Marine Park. We are very disappointed in this decision made by the Forum. There was no public consultation beforehand, and I believe their decision is not in the best interest of Gulf users. Nor has there been an explanation as to how the proposed changes will be better for the Marine Park. The majority of elected representatives voted against the proposals. Having presented to the Forum on Monday, we know that members are very divided on their views of this issue. This is how the elected members of the Forum voted: Against the proposal: Mayor Sandra Goudie Cr John Watson Cr Wayne Walker Cr Christine Fletcher Cr Donna Arnold Cr Rob McGuire Mr Scott Milne For the proposal: Cr Pippa Coom Cr Anne Marie Spicer Cr Denis Tegg Ms Cath Handley Ms Valmaine Toki Although the elected members voted 7-5 against the proposals, six more votes were collected from the tangata whenua appointed members - Ms Nicola MacDonald, Ms Charmaine Bailie, Mr Joe Davis, Mr Terence Hohneck, Mr Paul Majurey and Mr Dean Ogilvie - making the final vote 11-7 in favour of the proposals. The three Government appointees abstained. The Forum Co-Chairs will now take the resolution to the Government to advocate for legislative change. We are not giving up – retaining democratic control over the management of the Marine Park is too important. We will continue to oppose the proposals in their current form, including lobbying central government to ensure the Forum majority stays in the hands of elected representatives. Please read our latest media release. We are mindful that all elected members on the Forum come up for re-election at the forthcoming Local Body elections later this year - citizens will be able to express their views at the ballot box. Additionally, we will be calling for a referendum on the issue at the local body council elections later this year. Thank you again. We hope you continue to support us in this fight. Kind regards, |
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Post by Fogg on Mar 3, 2022 14:26:41 GMT 12
Thanks for the update.
Please keep us posted on how people can stay close to this eg voting,
And any info on what the new co-governance body’s ‘manifesto’ is ie what do they propose to do / change that motivated this shift?
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Post by GO30 on Mar 3, 2022 15:07:56 GMT 12
Thanks for the update. Please keep us posted on how people can stay close to this eg voting, And any info on what the new co-governance body’s ‘manifesto’ is ie what do they propose to do / change that motivated this shift? Shall do.
No idea what they will do but a few on the inside who have a better idea are terrified.
And the Govt/Council wonder why people don't bother voting.
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Post by dutyfree on Mar 3, 2022 15:14:24 GMT 12
it is an absolutely concrete of why I oppose co-governance. Unelected people voted to change a structure. It is complete bullshit.
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Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 9:52:41 GMT 12
it is an absolutely concrete of why I oppose co-governance. Unelected people voted to change a structure. It is complete bullshit. I don't mind co-governance, in places it can work well. In NZ we'll have to wait and see being such a racist country and having a very vocal minority that the current Govt needs to have on side.
I do however hate with a passion the removal of democracy by what can only be described as racists....... and it takes more than one guest to make a party so the racists are very much multi toned.
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Post by fish on Mar 4, 2022 11:03:52 GMT 12
Is this Regional Park thing the same as the Gulf Co-Governance (as in already included), or is this a separate, parallel thing?
That letter by Sleepyhead is really making more sense now...
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Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 11:28:02 GMT 12
Yes same with the Parks.....water, gulf and judging by this Governments openness and transparency, a shit load more.
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Post by dutyfree on Mar 4, 2022 13:28:40 GMT 12
Yes same with the Parks.....water, gulf and judging by this Governments openness and transparency, a shit load more. Waikato river (decade ago), Auckland volcanoes, Maori wards, health authority, water assets, plus all the stuff we dont currently know about |
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Post by fish on Mar 4, 2022 14:05:04 GMT 12
It is as boring as fuck reading some of this stuff (the co-governance material) but I think I might need to start paying attention...
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Post by dutyfree on Mar 4, 2022 14:18:28 GMT 12
It is boring, but that is what they depend on.
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Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 19:19:29 GMT 12
It is boring, but that is what they depend on. Absolutely and it seems to be working very well for them. |
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Post by GO30 on Mar 23, 2022 18:04:27 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 28, 2022 19:39:09 GMT 12
seems Cr John Watson posting the Gulf Users group ad on Farcebook has hurt the feelings of those councilors who voted for this nonsense just a reminder  Dear xxxx, I am writing to bring your attention to an attempt by the Hauraki Gulf Forum’s co-chairs to muzzle Auckland Councillor John Watson, a Forum member, after he shared on social media our NZ Herald advertisement. This advert named the five local body councillors who voted to introduce a new 50:50 co-governance arrangement with mana whenua and ‘others’ to manage the Hauraki Gulf Marine Park. Furthermore, these five Councillors failed to seek a mandate from the public and ignored the concerns of thousands that had signed our petition or emailed Forum members. We stand by the claims we made in the advertisement. Legal advice also supports our position. We are disappointed to see the Forum co-chairs attempt to stifle free speech and public debate on such a controversial issue – an issue that continues to lack transparency. There has been so little detail on the proposed new governance model that it is difficult for members of the public to understand what powers and functions the new Gulf entity might have. Considering other Government policy initiatives relating to co-governance, we believe members of the public are fully justified in their concerns as to what the outcome of the Forum’s decision to advocate for co-governance might be. Saying NO to co-governance The threatening action by the Forum co-chairs reinforces the importance of our campaign to ensure democratic governance and control of the Hauraki Gulf is retained. Therefore, the Gulf Users’ Group will continue to oppose the co-governance model. This issue is too important, as it means the voices of 2.2 million citizens will be side-lined concerning the management of the Marine Park. We will also continue to raise awareness of what is at risk, which may include access to recreational fishing, boating, and the ability for businesses to make a living on the Gulf. As I mentioned in my last update, we are now calling for a referendum at the local body elections later this year to force the Forum to consult with the community. Additionally, as the proposal will require Government support for legislative change, we are lobbying Government to drop the co-governance proposal. Our Group supports the intention to improve the health of the Hauraki Gulf but believes this can happen while decisions on the Gulf remain fair, transparent and democratic. This latest episode of harassment of an elected representative, however, serves only to reinforce our concerns and our determination to retain democratic control. Thanks for your ongoing support. Lee Short Spokesperson Gulf Users Group |
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