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Post by GO30 on Feb 16, 2022 11:01:03 GMT 12
We have to drive 24km round trip to drop off our recycling and/or rubbish. It does make you extra anal about what goes into the tiny as but expensive bags we have to use. We're also noticed it's made us 'comment', in assorted manners with even more enthusiasm than usual, to companies about there bullshit excessive packaging. The best we have found is to drop them a line saying how wonderful and liked their products are but sadly we'll never get to experience that again due to the extreme over packaging they use.
I've been a packaging nazi for a while, going rural has only shown that needs to be amplified dramatically..... and more need to do it.
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 16, 2022 11:56:39 GMT 12
We have to drive 24km round trip to drop off our recycling and/or rubbish. It does make you extra anal about what goes into the tiny as but expensive bags we have to use. We're also noticed it's made us 'comment', in assorted manners with even more enthusiasm than usual, to companies about there bullshit excessive packaging. The best we have found is to drop them a line saying how wonderful and liked their products are but sadly we'll never get to experience that again due to the extreme over packaging they use.
I've been a packaging nazi for a while, going rural has only shown that needs to be amplified dramatically..... and more need to do it.
drifting the thread somewhat, does anyone know how much collected recyclable material is actually recycled? I understand there is a world wide glut of collected plastic and cardboard and no one overseas wants to take it. I have also heard (uncorroborated) that even the glass manufacturers do not want to take collected glass anymore. That would be a shame as glass is the easiest of all packaging to recycle. At our marina there are 3 skips - general rubbish, cardboard and glass/plastic/cans. Northland waste send just one truck to collect the contents of all 3 skips  At home I separate as much as possible, plastic containers and cans suitable for glue/paint mixing go to a local boatbuilder, newsprint newspapers (Stuffed's Rodney Times) go straight into a cupboard unread for winter firelighting and the remainder goes into the recycle bin, just wonder where it finishes up |
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Post by GO30 on Feb 16, 2022 12:20:44 GMT 12
If you want to know how much isn't recycled ask Grounded. He build a awesome machine that can turn waste into useful and offered one to the councils for their waste facilities, they could have made the fuel needed to run the facilities from the very waste they deal with in the facility but all he got was 'we have contracts in place'. So he followed those to find about zero actually gets recycled. I'm buying a pile of NZ fence posts made out of recycled plastic and used covid masks. I hope they sanitised the masks, I don't want to have to isolate my fences  |
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Post by Fogg on Feb 16, 2022 18:37:52 GMT 12
If you want to know how much isn't recycled ask Grounded. Can you get him back here? |
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Post by GO30 on Feb 17, 2022 10:44:31 GMT 12
I shall chat. It's pretty freaky what he found around recycling and the total lack of... not sure what the word is but enthusiasm or interest type words, around the device he built. It turns rubbish into actually usable products include the fuel needed to run the machine itself, it's damn cunning. So one in the corner of a recycling plant could fuel the plant while it reduces the need to bury shit. But try to get interest from anyone to help fund and/or deploy it and all he runs into is screeds and screeds of paperwork mostly around happy clappy PC shit like can it be used by the LBGTABCST whatever community or how can it help Iwis fight back against the colonial oppressors. I kid you not it's just freaking bizarre and did his head in. I tried the Callahan fund but again, 2 forests of trees need to die before you can get anywhere. The paperwork needs professionals to fill it in, not everyday dudes like us, it is that complex and jargon ridden. Shame as it's a head fell of damn cunning and full on MacGyver abilities plus the usual crazy we all have in assorted forms. He's legend at CRA. The first and only team member we've had that has galvanised his own face |
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Post by harrytom on Mar 30, 2024 6:07:13 GMT 12
Having just had a update on what can or cant go in to the recycling bin.seems AK has been dumbed down to suit the rest of NZs incapability to recycle what we can. Tops must be removed from wine/milk bottles and go in to general waste. Nolonger can tektra packs be recycled,only clean pizza boxes.No soft film or meat plastic meat trays. Hmm starting to think because we have sent offshore most of our recycle to northern china we have overloaded them.So might as well just fill up our general waste bin,maybe better to put items that we use to recycle in bags and leave by council owned bins and make it there problem.No wait.AK wants to do away with local bins.
We have recycling at work,general waste,cardboard/plastic film but somehow same truck empties all bins at same time so I guess it goes direct to Hampton downs tip along with Taurangas/Rotoruas.yes comes up to Hampton downs as paeroa only handling local now according the waste driver yesterday.
Sooner we and Govt wake up the better.Say to manufactures/impporters,if the packaging cant be recycled you cant sell the product in NZ.
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Post by harrytom on Mar 30, 2024 6:12:02 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Mar 30, 2024 9:11:58 GMT 12
Having just had a update on what can or cant go in to the recycling bin.seems AK has been dumbed down to suit the rest of NZs incapability to recycle what we can. Tops must be removed from wine/milk bottles and go in to general waste. Nolonger can tektra packs be recycled,only clean pizza boxes.No soft film or meat plastic meat trays. Hmm starting to think because we have sent offshore most of our recycle to northern china we have overloaded them.So might as well just fill up our general waste bin,maybe better to put items that we use to recycle in bags and leave by council owned bins and make it there problem.No wait.AK wants to do away with local bins. We have recycling at work,general waste,cardboard/plastic film but somehow same truck empties all bins at same time so I guess it goes direct to Hampton downs tip along with Taurangas/Rotoruas.yes comes up to Hampton downs as paeroa only handling local now according the waste driver yesterday. Sooner we and Govt wake up the better.Say to manufactures/impporters,if the packaging cant be recycled you cant sell the product in NZ. Keen to understand the link between a rant about recycling and kelp gardners? |
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Post by Fogg on Mar 30, 2024 9:45:54 GMT 12
I was wondering how the kina gathering project around Waiheke has been going? Any news?
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Post by harrytom on Mar 30, 2024 9:56:02 GMT 12
Having just had a update on what can or cant go in to the recycling bin.seems AK has been dumbed down to suit the rest of NZs incapability to recycle what we can. Tops must be removed from wine/milk bottles and go in to general waste. Nolonger can tektra packs be recycled,only clean pizza boxes.No soft film or meat plastic meat trays. Hmm starting to think because we have sent offshore most of our recycle to northern china we have overloaded them.So might as well just fill up our general waste bin,maybe better to put items that we use to recycle in bags and leave by council owned bins and make it there problem.No wait.AK wants to do away with local bins. We have recycling at work,general waste,cardboard/plastic film but somehow same truck empties all bins at same time so I guess it goes direct to Hampton downs tip along with Taurangas/Rotoruas.yes comes up to Hampton downs as paeroa only handling local now according the waste driver yesterday. Sooner we and Govt wake up the better.Say to manufactures/impporters,if the packaging cant be recycled you cant sell the product in NZ. Keen to understand the link between a rant about recycling and kelp gardners? follow on from Go30 in february post and its not rant,its fact |
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Post by harrytom on Mar 30, 2024 9:58:08 GMT 12
I was wondering how the kina gathering project around Waiheke has been going? Any news? Three options are proposed for kina in FMA 1. Option 1: Status quo (retain the current daily limit of 50 kina per person per day). Option 2: Increase the daily limit from 50 to 100 kina per person per day. Option 3: Increase the daily limit from 50 to 150 kina per person per day. Fisheries New Zealand would like to know your views and what option you support. Or whether you have an alternative option. Consultation document Proposed recreational daily limits for kina and Centrostephanus: FMA 1 [PDF, 725 KB] |
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Post by GO30 on Mar 30, 2024 12:06:19 GMT 12
If Kina population explosion is a genuine risk, and I think it is from comments made by people who should actually know, then MPI should issue the following widely -
"Kina population has exploded and they are fucking the gulf. So the bag limit for {insert very definitive time frame, maybe only 2-3 months} now 150 fish person per 24hr day. The catch boundaries are X,Y and Z. Please note we have tripled enforcement on ramps and beaches plus on the water including a big expansion in our under cover teams. Penalties for breaching any of the rules will be instant impounding of any vessels/trailers/tow wagons/gear used until a Judge releases them, if they even do. Plus a minimum fine of $10,000 with a maximum of $1million"
Let the fishos help clean the place up fast. But make them very aware of what will happen if they breach the rules. The extra enforcement costs would probably be less than the costs of pissing around as we are, at least a little.
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Post by harrytom on Mar 30, 2024 12:18:01 GMT 12
If Kina population explosion is a genuine risk, and I think it is from comments made by people who should actually know, then MPI should issue the following widely - "Kina population has exploded and they are fucking the gulf. So the bag limit for {insert very definitive time frame, maybe only 2-3 months} now 150 fish person per 24hr day. The catch boundaries are X,Y and Z. Please note we have tripled enforcement on ramps and beaches plus on the water including a big expansion in our under cover teams. Penalties for breaching any of the rules will be instant impounding of any vessels/trailers/tow wagons/gear used until a Judge releases them, if they even do. Plus a minimum fine of $10,000 with a maximum of $1million"
Let the fishos help clean the place up fast. But make them very aware of what will happen if they breach the rules. The extra enforcement costs would probably be less than the costs of pissing around as we are, at least a little. Talking of fish officers,yep seen them do their work twice now,1st weekend issuing fines,last Sunday,unhook your car as we have a tow on the way for your boat. Guess nationality,nope mid age white people who held the high and might attitude,didnt wash to well when you have a nice scarab looking toy with a net and longline and from what I gather between 4 fishos 100 snapper with most undersize and been filleted,law quite clearly states must be in a measurable state,so you can fillet and disguard frames but best your fillet be bigger than 25cm,about the size of 30cm whole fish |
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Post by harrytom on May 5, 2024 4:49:31 GMT 12
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Post by fish on May 9, 2024 19:34:25 GMT 12
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