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Post by fish on Sept 24, 2024 9:09:34 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Sept 28, 2024 18:15:29 GMT 12
Apparently we need more diversity, whites are a minority too, maybe needs some government funding.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Sept 30, 2024 9:08:46 GMT 12
Even my bread has gone woke!  |
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Post by fish on Sept 30, 2024 9:26:42 GMT 12
Last week was Maori Language week. Hopefully your bread will un-woke this week. Either that, or it's time to change brands... |
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Post by sloopjohnb on Sept 30, 2024 10:21:07 GMT 12
There must be a large group of people somewhere just making up words........ a "maori wordsmith" Whats the translation for "wordsmith" fuckedifiknowbutwewillthinkofsomething.  |
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Post by Fogg on Oct 4, 2024 6:31:21 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 5, 2024 7:40:29 GMT 12
Insightful post on the bollocks claim that "Maori Science" is akin or superior to actual science breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/10/professor-jerry-coyne-maori-academics.html?m=1The writer cited some extracts from a discussion on AUT's science courses including "A critical aspect of the ‘pure knowledge’ claim of science originates in the fact/value dichotomy where, in the 18th century, the bifurcation of fact from value was used to separate science (fact) from literature (fiction), in the process freeing science from ethical responsibility for its effects (Proctor, 1991; Putnam, 2004; Richardson, 1990). This move allowed science to claim control of truth. Science is extremely specialist, so each scientist has a small domain of expertise, which helps dilute the ethical significance of their work. But so far as we know, no other culture except the modern Western culture, influenced by science, separates facts from values. Māori (and Indigenous) ethical concepts are both facts and values at the same time. This means that truth according to Māori (Indigenous) worldviews is both factual and ethically value-laden. This is one way to explain why Māori knowledge is not science."
with his response:
At last—the admission that the Listener authors were right is in the last sentence. But the rest is balderdash. First of all, science is not a “culture” in the sense of an ethnic culture like that of indigenous people or “Europeans”. Science is simply a toolkit for gleaning truths about the universe, truths that, of course, have been responsible for vast improvements in health and well-being of society, as well as producing wonder about the universe. And of course “modern Western culture” includes both facts and values (the values vary across populations), but so what? The practice of science, or rather, the truths that it produces, are designed to be unpolluted by values. Truly, I am not sure what the authors are talking about here. Sadly, they give not one example of a Māori truth that is both factually accurate and at the same time “ethically value laden”. But the lack of supporting examples is characteristic of this type of polemic from New Zealand.
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Post by muzled on Oct 7, 2024 7:06:34 GMT 12
Surely this will raise local body voting rates. And I'll be amazed if it turns out well for ze current mayor. Rotorua tried to do this years ago, they got a legal opinion from Russel McVeigh and they ruled it unlawful. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/mayor_gives_unelected_15_year_olds_a_vote_on_council.htmlMayor gives unelected 15 year olds a vote on Council The Taxpayers Union points out: The Taxpayers’ Union is telling Hastings Mayor Sandra Hazlehurst to ‘grow up’ after she used her casting vote to give committee voting rights, and a salary, to members of the Hastings District Youth Council: school-aged kids. …
“Let’s get real. It’s a thinly-veiled move by left-leaning councillors to stack council committees with even more idealism and inexperience. Using kids for political leverage needs to be called out for what it is.”
“It’s also undemocratic. These children have no democratic mandate or accountability. It’s a blatant attempt to ‘screw the scrum’ by cynical politicians and grifters.”
“Local government is in crisis and instead of the adults prevailing, Mayor Hazlehurst is inviting kids with, at best, year 10 business studies, to cast votes on governance matters of an organisation with total assets of nearly three billion.”So ratepayers will be funding salaries and costs for 15 year olds to sit and vote on Council committees. And people wonder why there is such disillusionment with local government. |
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Post by muzled on Oct 10, 2024 15:20:41 GMT 12
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Post by sloopjohnb on Oct 10, 2024 16:01:32 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Oct 10, 2024 17:13:12 GMT 12
Designed to create 'expert: 'yes-people' for central and local gov. positions where they can shape policy in desired woke direction'
Once their snouts are in the taxpayers trough they'll say and do anything to grow their fields of nonsense
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Post by Cantab on Oct 11, 2024 15:00:57 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 11, 2024 16:56:37 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Oct 13, 2024 18:48:52 GMT 12
Not sure which thread to put this in, but this one will do. Story is of a Family Court Judgement, Mother and Father can't agree on which school to send their boy to. Overall a sad situation but very common amongst divorcees. Anyway, the boy has been in a full immersion kura since he was 3. Te Reo is his first language. Sounds like his English is not that great, in that concerns have been expressed about his transferring to a regular secondary school where everything is taught in English. The Kura goes through to year 13, but there aren't any kids in the senior school, and only 10 in his year 8 class. I've no issue with people wanted to learn, speak and live Te Reo, but I've always assumed they'd be bilingual. I can understand the Father's concerns and wishes for the boy to learn English and learn how to get by in an English speaking world. You can try and fight colonisation as much as you want, the fact of the matter is this country, and the whole western world speak English. I can't see full immersion Te Reo setting you up for much of a life after primary / through secondary. The judge pointed to the boy’s first language being te reo Māori.
“He will struggle in a large secondary school where the main language is English. I consider his English needs to get to a higher level than it presently is before attending and making the transition into [the proposed school].”The judge said the boy’s happiness and wellbeing trumped any academic concerns and he will probably transition naturally to mainstream schooling as he gets older and the number of pupils reduced at the kura. www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/court-rules-boy-will-remain-in-full-immersion-te-reo-maori-schooling-amid-parents-clash/BU42BXZSB5EATE32GUAPHCEXYI/ |
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Post by eri on Oct 13, 2024 20:04:19 GMT 12
presumably
this boy
and many of his generation
will enter higher education and the workforce demanding that all courses be offered in maori
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