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Post by ComfortZone on Sept 18, 2022 8:24:40 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Sept 18, 2022 9:09:22 GMT 12
It is beyound me why this is even a debate. Letting biological men compete in womens sport is just a nonsense. That trans weight lifter NZ put into the Olympics was just an embarrassment. I'm all for 'you be you', and people identifying with who they identify with. All the non-binary and trans and what not. Just the same as I'm happy for people to do what ever drugs they want, provided it doesn't impact anyone else. The moment a biological man competes in women's sport, they are impacting on all the biological women.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 11:13:39 GMT 12
I say bullshit ... If woman can encroach in male orientated/ dominated sports/activities and do well .. then visa versa.
I raced nationally and internationally with a female crew for years and she was better than most men.
I would not swap her for any male crew!
Not allowing men to compete head on with woman is just degrading and holding back woman!
You guys are so woke!...
And sexist
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 11:15:05 GMT 12
I say bullshit ... If woman can encroach in male orientated/ dominated sports/activities and do well .. then visa versa. I raced nationally and internationally with a female crew for years and she was better than most men. I would not swap her for any male crew! Not allowing men to compete head on with woman is just degrading and holding back woman! You guys are so woke!... And sexist ... Oh and also .. where were you guys when men wanted their sport preserved!?
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Post by fish on Sept 18, 2022 18:55:09 GMT 12
I say bullshit ... If woman can encroach in male orientated/ dominated sports/activities and do well .. then visa versa. I raced nationally and internationally with a female crew for years and she was better than most men. I would not swap her for any male crew! Not allowing men to compete head on with woman is just degrading and holding back woman! You guys are so woke!... And sexist Are you talking power lifting or yacht racing? Yacht racing is kind of like chess, it doesn't matter how many balls are between your legs. Power lifting, big difference. PS, your trolling is juvenile.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 22:05:57 GMT 12
No trolling mate.
Woman want equal rights.
I say fair enough!
If we keep the men and woman and cross gender separate then woman will never be given the chance to catch up or even surpass men.
There are some woman that can out lift 99.9% of the worlds men... Why stop there...
Seerena willliam would have beaten half the best men... And if she/woman was allowed to play in the men's tournament they could eventually be no1...
Thus men could then play in woman's tournaments or even better have a any gender world title.
same applies in any sport from table tennis to NFL...
Open your sexist minds
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 2:20:00 GMT 12
Aquaholic,you would be happy to have woman in the "allblack team"??I can see all sorts of sexually charges when tackled and you crabbed her "tits"
Some sports need to be separated and some ,like yachting can be combined.
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Post by fish on Sept 19, 2022 11:01:14 GMT 12
No trolling mate. Woman want equal rights. I say fair enough! If we keep the men and woman and cross gender separate then woman will never be given the chance to catch up or even surpass men. There are some woman that can out lift 99.9% of the worlds men... Why stop there... Seerena willliam would have beaten half the best men... And if she/woman was allowed to play in the men's tournament they could eventually be no1... Thus men could then play in woman's tournaments or even better have a any gender world title. same applies in any sport from table tennis to NFL... Open your sexist minds Hmmm, ok, this post shows you don't even know what we are talking about. We are not talking about equal rights for womens sports. That would be things like the same prize money and conditions etc. We are talking about transgender atheletes. Do try to keep up. This is where a man decides to identify as a women (no issues with that) but then wants to go compete in women's sport. Including at Olympic level, like Laurel Hubbard in power lifting. That was an example of a 120kg 6'2 biological man competing in a women's strength competition. So, if you want to protect women's rights Aquaholic, first you have to be able to define what a women is. It never used to be a particularly complex question, but in this woke new world, it seems to be way more complicated than it needs to be. World Rugby has come right out and stated to play in a women's rugby team, you need to be listed as female at the time of your birth. Fairly straight forward really. Particularly in rugby, where strength and aggression are fundamental to the game, letting biological men compete against women would be twaddlebollocks. Any slightly whacko man could put on some lippy and a nice dress and go an win an Olympic medal. I think that is wrong. So aquaholic, how do you define a woman?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 17:03:08 GMT 12
Simple... Given time, natural evolution ( as per the human race), and the ability to compete with the male's ( in any format) woman WILL become bigger/stronger/ faster, and beat men... Why deny them that opportunity (in any format)
Comprehend?
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Post by fish on Sept 19, 2022 17:57:56 GMT 12
Simple... Given time, natural evolution ( as per the human race), and the ability to compete with the male's ( in any format) woman WILL become bigger/stronger/ faster, and beat men... Why deny them that opportunity (in any format) Comprehend? So, you think it is equal rights for women, to let biological men compete in women's competitions? Is that what you are saying? So, in order for a women to become a world champion, they have to bet all-comers, including any biological man that wants to put on some lippy and have a go?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 19:49:15 GMT 12
Yip. That's it. And as we saw in the 2020 Olympic games when Ms/mr laurel Hubbard got pasted by woman prepared to take on any challenge.
According to you then..... A female sailing crew cannot compete against a boat full of men/ gays/ TG'rs ...
And what about mixed doubles tennis, bowls. ..
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Post by fish on Sept 19, 2022 21:17:40 GMT 12
Yip. That's it. And as we saw in the 2020 Olympic games when Ms/mr laurel Hubbard got pasted by woman prepared to take on any challenge. According to you then..... A female sailing crew cannot compete against a boat full of men/ gays/ TG'rs ... And what about mixed doubles tennis, bowls. .. No, you are completely misrepreseting what I am saying. I am saying that men pretending to be women should not be able to compete on an equal footing in women's only competitions (because it is not an equal footing) Sailing is largely a gender neutral sport (accept for a couple of the olympic dinghy classes, where strength is a key advantage). Your examples are right up their with chess. Zero benefit from strength or aggression. You example of mixed doubles tennis is laughable. It is mixed doubles, that is the whole point of it. One male and one female on each side. World rugby has banned men playing in women's rugby teams. Do you agree with that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 8:22:15 GMT 12
Hello?..tennis - One male & one pretentd male v one male one female?
According to you a " pretend " male is a male and has more strength ability than a female.
What is a pretend male? A big manly looking dude with. Vagina?... Or a small wimpy female looking dude with a wanger?
Mate, you're treading in quicksand brah.
What about a butch female with " male chromosomes" dominance that is 6'10" and ribbed but has " lady bits?... According to you she could never compete against a huge male with "female chromosomes" dominance,6'10",ribbed, and pack a dong!
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Post by fish on Sept 20, 2022 10:01:58 GMT 12
? I don't want to argue with you incase other people think I'm the idiot. Sorry but I've got better things to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 10:08:48 GMT 12
? I don't want to argue with you incase other people think I'm the idiot. Sorry but I've got better things to do. why would you think that!?... Oh😀 I see now... It not a argument its a discussion brah! No losers just putting it out there. I think men and woman should compete... Then let's look in ten years and see how reality works out... You may be correct?
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