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Dec 7, 2023 10:50:57 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 7, 2023 10:50:57 GMT 12
fish has stated that if I personally attack him he will delete anything I post. Apparently this is called 'blowback' Yet he won't do anything about the people that personally attack me. I have taken more flak than anyone on this board. He thinks it's OK to use his position of privilege to suppress me. (There's a name for people who do that). So we have a rule for one and not for others. I won't play where the rules aren't fair and power hungry people in a position of privilege suspress all my posts because they don't like being called names. If my posts continue to be deleted because of "blowback" there's no point participating.
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Dec 7, 2023 11:16:29 GMT 12
You're 100% correct. Fish should not be In charge of this board. He's too close to the action! I should be 🙈🙉🙊😈😈😈
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Dec 7, 2023 11:24:41 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 7, 2023 11:24:41 GMT 12
You're 100% correct. Fish should not be In charge of this board. He's too close to the action! I should be 🙈🙉🙊😈😈😈 I love it when I find people I agree with on here  |
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Dec 7, 2023 11:34:18 GMT 12
Bro it's a love hate relationship... People love to hate.
But I respect your fortitude and resilience in The face of enemy fire.
This is a political site that dabbles in Sailing...
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Dec 7, 2023 15:49:46 GMT 12
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 7, 2023 15:49:46 GMT 12
Why have any control
Free market regs.
Self control via members feedback
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 7, 2023 16:18:26 GMT 12
You need some controls. Otherwise it's out of control.
No Threats - Prohibit any form of threats
No Illegal Activities - Ensure discussions don't involve unlawful actions.
No Spam - Prevent excessive irrelevant content.
Respect for Privacy - Don't share personal information without consent.
No Impersonation - Prohibit impersonation with malicious intent.
I think those are already forum rules... (the last one definitely is)...
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Post by GO30 on Dec 8, 2023 9:03:41 GMT 12
Yeap and from what I've seen one or 2 need to insert the word 'self' into the above comment.
Going full stubborn fuck against stubborn fuck never pans out well, especially for the fuckers being stubborn.
Save your bitching for the Governmental class, they are going to use a shit load and ya don't wanna run out mid stream.
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 8, 2023 9:11:16 GMT 12
That's easy to say when you're not the one having your voice taken away by a person in a position of privilege.
In all of history it's never panned out well for the little guy who sat back and did nothing.
And yeah sure, it's just some stupid forum... But there's a principal at stake here, and that principle is what this board is actually mostly about.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 8, 2023 9:27:38 GMT 12
But there's a principal at stake here, and that principle is what this board is actually mostly about. A fair point indeed. |
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Post by fish on Dec 8, 2023 9:30:59 GMT 12
That's easy to say when you're not the one having your voice taken away by a person in a position of privilege. In all of history it's never panned out well for the little guy who sat back and did nothing. And yeah sure, it's just some stupid forum... But there's a principal at stake here, and that principle is what this board is actually mostly about. For the record, Duckmaster received blowback for abusive posts and personal attacks. He also undertook a campaign of a torrent of abusive posts and abusive messages. We don't need rules to define what is reasonable or acceptable behaviour when interacting with others on this forum. I believe everyone here is adult enough to understand what is acceptable behaviour / language. If people treat others as they would like to be treated, we wont have any problems. Personal abuse isn't freedom of speech, its personal abuse. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 8, 2023 9:50:30 GMT 12
That's easy to say when you're not the one having your voice taken away by a person in a position of privilege. In all of history it's never panned out well for the little guy who sat back and did nothing. And yeah sure, it's just some stupid forum... But there's a principal at stake here, and that principle is what this board is actually mostly about. For the record, Duckmaster received blowback for abusive posts and personal attacks. He also undertook a campaign of a torrent of abusive posts and abusive messages. We don't need rules to define what is reasonable or acceptable behaviour when interacting with others on this forum. I believe everyone here is adult enough to understand what is acceptable behaviour / language. If people treat others as they would like to be treated, we wont have any problems. Personal abuse isn't freedom of speech, its personal abuse. No one on this board has been personally abused more than me. There's more name calling and direct attacks in replies to my posts than any others. Show me a single message that has been deleted from another member who has abused me? Even when I was impersonated, which is against the terms and conditions the board moderators did nothing to delete those messages. They are still there. The deletion of all my messages, no matter the content, was an abuse of power that was used to take away my voice. The first post to be deleted was where I inquired with interest that the navy could run a drone without lookout. There was nothing untoward in that post, it was just deleted with no explanation rhyme or reason. It was deleted with malicious intent. The second post to get deleted was my response to sabre about me not knowing what the recent protests were for. In that post I referenced Brian Tamaki calling him a dumb arse. There's literally thousands of posts on this board worse than that, none of which have been deleted. Again my post was deleted with malicious intent. The next post to be deleted was where I called the person deleting my posts "weak". Again no response, deleted with malicious intent. Every post I made, even where I politiely asked why my messages were being deleted was deleted. This was nothing short of an abuse of power by a person in a position of privilege undertaking a malicious attack. To cover there tracks, they even had to delete other people's messages who had quoted me. With power comes responsibility. That responsibility is to create rules that are applied fairly to all. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 8, 2023 10:04:18 GMT 12
By example both of these messages were deleted during the personal attack. There's literally nothing wrong with my message or the message I was quoted in. The deletion was an abusive attack by a person in a position of privilege who was trusted with power.  I know many others know that this is just wrong. I appreciate the private messages I have received in solidarity. I understand people won't speak up because they are afraid of this happening to them. But please understand that by not speaking up our oppressors will win. And let's not overlook the opening abusive statement from my oppressor "Duck Fucker" oppressing me for abuse... pretty sure last time I looked that's not my handle. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 8, 2023 10:08:13 GMT 12
Ok, so I think that’s enough on this particular episode and that everyone now understands all sides of this, including the sensitivities and principles of the individuals involved.
So let’s not allow this argument to re-escalate again today but instead let’s quietly take onboard what we’ve all learned about each other this week, and head into the weekend on a more positive note.
And maybe consider posting something more sailing or marine-related in the other forum for a change 😊
P.S. There’s a great thread running about import vs local NZ Quick prices!
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Post by fish on Dec 8, 2023 10:16:59 GMT 12
For the record, Duckmaster received blowback for abusive posts and personal attacks. He also undertook a campaign of a torrent of abusive posts and abusive messages. We don't need rules to define what is reasonable or acceptable behaviour when interacting with others on this forum. I believe everyone here is adult enough to understand what is acceptable behaviour / language. If people treat others as they would like to be treated, we wont have any problems. Personal abuse isn't freedom of speech, its personal abuse. No one on this board has been personally abused more than me. There's more name calling and direct attacks in replies to my posts than any others. Show me a single message that has been deleted from another member who has abused me? Even when I was impersonated, which is against the terms and conditions the board moderators did nothing to delete those messages. They are still there. The deletion of all my messages, no matter the content, was an abuse of power that was used to take away my voice. The first post to be deleted was where I inquired with interest that the navy could run a drone without lookout. There was nothing untoward in that post, it was just deleted with no explanation rhyme or reason. It was deleted with malicious intent. The second post to get deleted was my response to sabre about me not knowing what the recent protests were for. In that post I referenced Brian Tamaki calling him a dumb arse. There's literally thousands of posts on this board worse than that, none of which have been deleted. Again my post was deleted with malicious intent. The next post to be deleted was where I called the person deleting my posts "weak". Again no response, deleted with malicious intent. Every post I made, even where I politiely asked why my messages were being deleted was deleted. This was nothing short of an abuse of power by a person in a position of privilege undertaking a malicious attack. To cover there tracks, they even had to delete other people's messages who had quoted me. With power comes responsibility. That responsibility is to create rules that are applied fairly to all. When you were impersonated it was dealt with. You will recall I have jumped on you when you posted as a guest under your own name (Duckmaster with a dot). I did that in an effort to ensure we did not have another impersonator on the board. As you know, that issue was cleared up quickly. I did not delete anyone else's posts. I did see one response to one of your abusive posts get deleted. I assume that was by the original poster, who, again I assume, thought better of sinking to that level. You may view what I did as an abuse of power. You are free to view the world how you wish. Another version of those events are that you got caught out being a cunt, didn't like being caught out and didn't like the associated actions. I do note that the tone of your posts has improved significantly since that little episode. That is acknowledged. Consequently there are a number of threads that actually have a bit of flow and a bit of back and forth, which is a good thing. I'll take this opportunity to acknowledge your views and displeasure on that little episode. But as I have said to you privately, it is your choice is you carry on with the niggle and personal abuse, and it is your choice to move on and participate without all of that carryon. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 8, 2023 10:29:03 GMT 12
It's not a view, it's a fact. You abused your position of privilege - end of story. The screenshot evidence of the posts of mine you deleted speaks for itself. I have many more screen shots of non-abusive posts you deleted. Yes there were also abusive ones too, you're going to get that when you're taking away my voice and attacking me with a tool that I don't have at my disposal. It was a personal attack - plain and simple. You literally called me a "Duck Fucker" in the post where you accuse me of abuse... How can you not see the irony in that? I will not be replying to this thread again out of respect for Admin who I appreciate stepping in. |
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