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Post by Hugh Jorgan on May 29, 2024 20:56:25 GMT 12
Another crock of crap.
Latest consensus shows 1 million people identify as Maori .
Yet those idiots in Tea Party Maori only got 89,753 votes.
Why are these TPM wankers allowed a voice on Maori issues when the majority (90+%) don't vote for these morons. Ditch the racist Maori seat now.
They are a racist and divisive bunch of loud mouths that represent stupidity
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Post by eri on May 29, 2024 21:15:59 GMT 12
apparently a lot of people registered as maori on the census as they thought it would get them free stuff
presumably they need telling that it doesn't work like that
but again, when jumping some medical queues, apparently all you have to do is say you're maori....
life seemed so much easier when the gov was colour-blind and treated all people equally
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Post by sloopjohnb on May 30, 2024 12:08:51 GMT 12
Sitting Port Douglas reading the internet, I had to laugh to myself about this anti colonial protest...... They where all driving vehicles waving cotton/synthetic flags..etc.etc.
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Post by harrytom on May 30, 2024 12:27:22 GMT 12
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Post by fish on May 30, 2024 18:06:05 GMT 12
This is fantastic. We can finally stop paying for these savages ourselves. They can set up their own parliament, tax themselves and work out money needs to be earnt by doing productive stuff. They can have full responsibility for all their own spending and decisions, and we wont have to listen to their whining anymore. I am intrigued to see how one political party can be a Parliament though. Wouldn't that be some sort of evil dictatorship? Te Pāti Māori declares it is setting up its own Parliament www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/05/te-p-ti-m-ori-declares-it-is-setting-up-its-own-parliament.html
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Post by eri on May 30, 2024 18:41:48 GMT 12
the maori elite
would like to entrench themselves as nz's 'house of lords'....that great colonial crony institution that even the brits have gotten rid off
but that doesn't matter to the racist party...they really dig the hereditary part
as long as they get to continue saying
at every opportunity
"what's in it for ME and maori?"
labour gave them a taste of undeserved money + mana
and they liked it
they liked it alot
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Post by eri on Jun 2, 2024 8:03:08 GMT 12
dodgy tamihere Hundreds of census forms collected by marae staff were photocopied and retained; and data from the forms such as personal contact details, household occupancy and birth dates was entered into an online database and sent to the Waiparera Trust. Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere runs the social services charity and is chief executive of Whānau Ora, and denies this. They believe that information was then used to target Māori electorate voters in the Tāmaki Makaurau electorate. They also allege that Marae staff who delivered census forms also included enrolment forms for voters to change from the general to the Māori roll.Further allegations are that:Participants were given $100 supermarket vouchers, wellness packs or food parcels to induce them to complete the forms. Visitors to the marae last year were also given $100 supermarket vouchers when they completed the forms to switch rolls. Attempts were made to alert Stats NZ and MSD, but neither agency acted.
Takutai Moana Natasha Kemp stood down as the marae’s chief executive last year after narrowly beating incumbent Labour MP Peeni Henare by only 42 votes in the election's Tāmaki Makaurau race.www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350293431/stats-nz-investigating-potential-misuse-maori-census-data/?utm_source=stuff_article&utm_medium=referral
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 2, 2024 8:45:43 GMT 12
a very timely commentary thebfd.co.nz/2024/06/02/mister-speaker-your-mission-should-you-accept-it/excerpts The people will not stand for it. The division they are actually causing is a chasm between the current right and left in Parliament. New Zealand First MPs are now in their permanent home: they only have to observe the antics of the Greens and the Maori Party to see the choice they once had is gone. This has left Labour in a hopeless position, to which I think they have yet to wake up. Swing voters, the ones who decide elections, will not vote for Labour if it means risking participation from the other two radical entities.The Maori Party MPs, under MMP, are playing right into the Government’s hands. If this behaviour from the Maori Party continues, any future policy statements from Labour will be inconsequential. It will be the position of the Maori Party and, to a lesser extent the Greens, that will determine which way votes are cast.The Maori Party is ruining it for all: the left, themselves and their people but, more importantly, the country and its return to prosperity. They want more and more money while at the same time vilifying the hand that feeds them. That is not a clever strategy, but they can’t see it while consumed by their violent rhetoric and insulting behaviour.and Who would accept an invitation from a party so keen to talk about genocide? I am equally keen to talk about cannibalism; a practice tribes engaged in, not only against each other but also the white man. This is not only not talked about but erased from the school history curriculum, presumably so as not to offend. The Maori Party appear to have licence to say and do whatever they like, whereas we can barely open our mouths for fear of offending. Again, they are trying to assert their fantasy of superiority. The interpretation of the Treaty of Waitangi has been skewed to suit them and the Government can barely legislate anything for fear of being in breach of it. This is doing nothing to improve economic and social outcomes for everyone, including Maori. The Maori Party have shown conclusively that is not what they are in Parliament for. They want to rule by way of divide and conquer, but their aims will never be fulfilled. They are wasting their time.
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Post by muzled on Jun 2, 2024 13:06:31 GMT 12
It's maanaaki...
That's got to be one of JTs finest quotes!
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BRYCE EDWARDS JUN 01, 2024
Illegal and corrupt practices are alleged to have occurred in the way that Te Pati Māori has been running election campaigns, abusing their use of state-funded processes. Allegations revealed today about the way the party colluded with a South Auckland marae and John Tamihere’s Waipareira Trust are being looked into by various government agencies, but now require a larger investigation, possibly by the Serious Fraud Office or Office of the Auditor-General.
There have long been serious allegations about the relationship between Te Pati Māori’s president, John Tamihere’s Waipareira Trust charity, and politics. More recently, this has extended to how the South Auckland Manurewa Marae has allegedly helped the party in elections by giving inducements to voters to help the candidate, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, successfully win the seat of Tamaki Makaurau.
Part of the problem is that Kemp was both the party’s candidate in the election and also the Chief Executive of the Manurewa Marae, which various government agencies contracted to deliver services, including as a site for voting in the general election.
The latest allegations are reported in today’s Sunday Star-Times by Andrea Vance, who says that staff employed by Manurewa Marae to help with the government census combined that activity with the campaign to get Te Pati Māori’s candidate elected. This included using the private information collected in the census to help the party campaign. The article is a must-read: Stats NZ investigating potential misuse of Māori census data
Here’s the key list of allegations in Vance’s article:
“Hundreds of census forms collected by marae staff were photocopied and retained; and data from the forms such as personal contact details, household occupancy and birth dates was entered into an online database and sent to the Waiparera Trust. Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere runs the social services charity and is chief executive of Whānau Ora, and denies this.
They believe that information was then used to target Māori electorate voters in the Tāmaki Makaurau electorate.
They also allege that Marae staff who delivered census forms also included enrolment forms for voters to change from the general to the Māori roll.
Participants were given $100 supermarket vouchers, wellness packs or food parcels to induce them to complete the forms.
Visitors to the marae last year were also given $100 supermarket vouchers when they completed the forms to switch rolls.
Attempts were made to alert Stats NZ and MSD, but neither agency acted.”
These allegations have come from former Marae staff, who appear to be taking legal action against their former employer based on employment law. One has also contacted the Ministry of Social Development as a whistleblower. As a result, MSD, Statistics NZ and the Police are now investigating.
John Tamihere, an election candidate for Te Pati Māori at the last election, continues to be the party’s president and is CEO of Wairapareia Trust, is denying the allegations. He says the former employees are motivated by their employment gripes.
He also explained that the Marae chose to try to get Māori voters to switch from the general role to the Māori role of Tamaki Makaurau while canvassing for the government census. He is quoted: “It would be pretty stupid not to put both together, wouldn't it? Well, that’s what occurred… Our civic duty to our people is to alert them to both.”
In terms of allegations that the Marae was giving out inducements, such as food and vouchers, to voters, Tamihere is reported today as giving a cultural justification: “When we do relationships with our people and they come to our maraes, we either provide kai or kai manaaki packaging. You call it an inducement, we call it maanaaki.” He told Andrea Vance, “You practise your culture, our marae will and must provide our culture.” He also said he wouldn’t allow MP Takutai Tarsh Kemp to be interviewed about any of the allegations.
Allegations in February about the Manurewa Marae helping Te Pati Māori
Takutai Tarsh Kemp is now the MP for Tamaki Makaurau, having beaten Labour’s Peeni Henare by only 42 votes. Part of her successful campaign was won at the Manurewa Marae, which the Electoral Commission used as a voting booth. Controversially, this occurred while the candidate was also the Chief Executive of the Marae.
Journalist Andrea Vance also investigated this in February, reporting on how the Marae allegedly helped their CE and Te Pati Māori win extra votes through unethical and potentially illegal voter inducements – see her article from then: Deleted social media posts raise further questions about 'treating' at a marae polling booth (paywalled)
Here’s the critical part: “the Sunday Star-Times can reveal that during the period where advance votes could be cast, the marae's social media accounts promoted a ticketing system where voters could collect free hāngī, doughnuts, hot chocolate and coffee on providing proof of voting. The first 300 voters on a given day would get freebies. The account also posted a live video which included footage of Kemp's campaign vehicle, branded with Te Pāti Māori livery, and invited people to vote at the marae where an event that day would include free food. Documents, released after an Official Information Act request, reveal the commission was first made aware of the videos in the fortnight before election day on October 14, but they remained up for the duration of voting.”
Tamihere responded to the reports, calling them “fake news”. But details in the story raise serious issues of potential electoral fraud that call into question the validity and fairness of how Te Pāti Māori won the electorate and party votes in general.
The Labour, National, and Vision NZ parties subsequently made complaints to the Electoral Commission, but after an investigation, the Commission decided not to refer the matter to the Police.
John Tamihere’s Waipareira Trust political finance connections to Te Pati Māori
John Tamihere is central to Te Pati Māori, including as the party president. He’s also been a major financial backer of the party in recent years as the Chief Executive of the Waipareira Trust charity, which contracts to provide government services in South Auckland.
There are ongoing concerns about how much the two organisations overlap and, therefore, to what extent the charity is another wing of Te Pati Māori, albeit funded by the state.
There has been a long-running saga in which Tamihere has fought with the government regulator of charities, Charities Services, over the legality of donations made by the Waipareira Trust to various election campaigns he has run. In particular, they have focused on large financial donations to his 2019 Auckland Mayoral campaign and Te Pāti Māori’s 2020 election campaign.
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Jun 2, 2024 19:19:08 GMT 12
Jackson talks crap when he say these Maori heads, stolen by the British, are part of the family, treasured by maori, and should never have been stolen by the British. FFS you dumb Maori fucktard... Your so called ,rellies, buried Maori victims (captured during Land wars) in the sand, then tattooed their victims heads while still alive, then decapitated them, then sold/ traded the unwanted heads to the British!!!!!! So fucktard Jackson... Read history then speak to the facts and don't bullshit to the world that Maori cared or even wanted these butchered and canabalised maori heads back and that they were stolen. Just front the truth and tell the world that MAORI WERE SAVAGE Cannibals, THAT KILLED EACH OTHER AND WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR 💰 MONEY!.. including misrepresentation of the truth... And... They are still the same today... And They kill their own whakapapa / children as well.
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 2, 2024 19:47:48 GMT 12
Thomas Cranmer explains why perhaps Tamihere and friends seem to be protected from prosecution and
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Post by GO30 on Jun 3, 2024 8:53:33 GMT 12
Hmm..another CZ post either missing or truncated. Have you changed something very recently CZ?
Anyway back to muppets. I'm struggling to see how the TMP string pullers can see anything but a nasty, and quite possible with some violence, outcome if they continue down the separatists route. By sting pullers I mean the shadows behind the public faces who have demonstrated they aren't intelligent enough to be more than figurative pawns, Tamahere being a big one obviously. It's not hard to get to a place where that is exactly what they want but then the question is why would they want blood in the streets. I'm beginning to think there is something more we're all missing going on or being aimed for.
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Post by harrytom on Jun 3, 2024 10:25:49 GMT 12
Hmm..another CZ post either missing or truncated. Have you changed something very recently CZ? Anyway back to muppets. I'm struggling to see how the TMP string pullers can see anything but a nasty, and quite possible with some violence, outcome if they continue down the separatists route. By sting pullers I mean the shadows behind the public faces who have demonstrated they aren't intelligent enough to be more than figurative pawns, Tamahere being a big one obviously. It's not hard to get to a place where that is exactly what they want but then the question is why would they want blood in the streets. I'm beginning to think there is something more we're all missing going on or being aimed for. Time is what your missing GO30,the old boy said give it 30yrs and NZ will have apartied like South Africa,his timing is out but its going to happen
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Post by eri on Jun 4, 2024 13:03:19 GMT 12
dodgy john and the maori party being investigated
for clear law breaking
once again
this time for misusing census data
but they should expand it to include the clear breaks of electoral law in the payments for votes
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 11, 2024 8:29:32 GMT 12
This will no doubt galvanise the TMP into action thebfd.co.nz/2024/06/11/and-the-shredders-whir-into-action/opens The shredders will whir into action at the Te Pati Maori office as the Government announces an inquiry into the shenanigans that went on at Manurewa Marae. Don’t want to have any pesky documents lying around, now, do we?
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