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Post by GO30 on Jan 3, 2022 8:27:50 GMT 12
PS, Why do you think your ute is illigitimate? Do you not know who its father was? Or did that Greens twat say something offense about utes again? you have to admit the progeny of a German father and Korean mother that finishes up with the name Rhino certainly sounds a bit suss... Dont knock the Rhino, it is far more tricked up the the 25K more top end brand names. Yesterday its cooling seats were magnificennt. Yeap not only do thecseats warm they also chill. I did think 'what sort of wank is that?' but not any longer. Its also got 21st centrury brakes on all 4 corners, unlike the big brand names. German quality and efficency meets Koreans love if knick knacks and pimping thier rides, it works damn well.
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Post by GO30 on Jan 3, 2022 8:29:53 GMT 12
Lucky the ute is diesal so it can be in continual use, unlike the phone that relies on a battery that is about to d
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 10:01:32 GMT 12
It's not just about reducing CO2 emmissions. When I got our PHEV family wagon, I budgeted a $100/month saving on petrol. Now, with the sharp increases in petrol prices, those savings are nearing $200/month... Minus huge depreciation, electricity usage, ... Budget for$20k battery replacement... No... Me Waiting for hydrogen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 10:06:00 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 10:08:02 GMT 12
One hat for Wanker James "hypocrite" offshore
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 10:11:58 GMT 12
But I do agree, Electric is simply not saving the World from anything. In fact much of what I have been saying for the last few years about Electric is now comeing to pass. There is a new Video about to be put in Youtube (if is isn't already) or a Guy that bought and early Tesla. He has had it for 8 yrs now and the Battery is in need of replacement. The Battery is US$22K. Second hand Tesla's of the same age go for $30K if the Battery tests good. So as a result, the guy has joined up with another Youtuber who blows things up. They have straped some 500Kg of High explosive around the entire Car and are going to blow it up. I have been saying for years, Hydrogen is the way of the Future. I just wish the Future would get here faster. I guess Electric has the advantage of charging stations being easily created. Hydrogen stations are going to take awhile. Hyundai Trucks are coming off the Assembly line right now. Several other major manufacturers are in the process of getting Creations into production. Once we have Trucks available and companies keen on signing up fleets, stations will get created. The local Airline "Sounds Air" are in the process of taking possession of an all Electric Aircraft. The first for NZ and for that matter, much of the World. I am not sure how I feel about flying in an electric Aircraft. It's weird. Far less to go wrong than a Av-gas powered craft, but there is still just something weird about the feeling of relying solely on electric. I live right under the Southern air corridor for them. So it will be interesting to hear the sound from it once it starts flying. Totally agree. Hydrogen is already in use and no problems .
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Post by grounded on Jan 3, 2022 14:10:00 GMT 12
New Battery technology is already available, but we are not seeing it in the market. In fact the question was asked why are the 2022 models of Tesla Cars being sold with 2017 batteries in them. Not that Tesla has any great new battery weapon yet, but several other manufacturers are close to realeasing some very cool new technology. I am all like you lot though. And it gets me annoyed when the Greens are pushing electric when electric is far from Green yet. I do have to say though, I sure would love a go in one of those new Teslas. 0-100K in 2.9 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 15:44:30 GMT 12
New Battery technology is already available, but we are not seeing it in the market. In fact the question was asked why are the 2022 models of Tesla Cars being sold with 2017 batteries in them. Not that Tesla has any great new battery weapon yet, but several other manufacturers are close to realeasing some very cool new technology. I am all like you lot though. And it gets me annoyed when the Greens are pushing electric when electric is far from Green yet. I do have to say though, I sure would love a go in one of those new Teslas. 0-100K in 2.9 seconds. Yip I saw one om" boot it" full noise ( well full quite) and they are impressive. Hydrogen power would be faster?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 15:56:56 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 3, 2022 18:32:59 GMT 12
I have been saying for years, Hydrogen is the way of the Future. I just wish the Future would get here faster. I guess Electric has the advantage of charging stations being easily created. Hydrogen stations are going to take awhile. Hyundai Trucks are coming off the Assembly line right now. Several other major manufacturers are in the process of getting Creations into production. Once we have Trucks available and companies keen on signing up fleets, stations will get created. Totally agree. Hydrogen is already in use and no problems .Only on a trial basis, long way from being a commercial proposition. Running vehicles on it either by straight gas burning or in fuel cells has been proven, altho there are issues with the life and cost of fuel cell catalysts (platinum component). The key issues with hydrogen are production (reforming natural gas or cracking water with bulk electricity, neither of which are cheap or energy efficient and in the case of electricity not exactly in plentiful supply in most parts of the world at present of for the foreseeable future) and it storage/distribution in liquid form using cryogenic facilities. There are some promising studies at an Australian university where they may be onto a process to breakdown ammonia (NH4) into Hydrogen, that may then make it much more viable. Another issue to consider is the exotic materials required that come into contact with Hydrogen, read an interesting paper (for us engineers anyway ) recently about hydrogen embrittlement of metals, alot of issues there to consider as well
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Post by grounded on Jan 4, 2022 5:33:14 GMT 12
It's a technology that is changing rapidly and difficult to keep up with. It has moved on from the trial period and is now Commercial overseas. Several major names are manufacturing Trucks right now and it is just a matter of time before we see them here in NZ. Even the Fuel Cells have improved. I am struggling to find the numbers to be able to compare performance between Fuel Cell tech and Combustion Tech. All the Hydrogen producers are heading down the road of "green energy" production of Hydrogen, although depending on where a hydrogen producer is, Green can be vague as we all know. There are two main methods of producing Hydrogen. The cracking of water is the common and requires electrictiy of course, and steam conversion of Methane, also energy hungry, but a third development has been created using catalysts, whuch of ciurse is far less energy intensive. In fact I would not want to be a commercial producer of Hydrogen right at the mo. By the time one builds a commercial plant using the first two methods, which all new plants I know of are utilizing, the technology is going to be out of date and someone will come along with a new cheaper means of making the stuff.
Oh and I got the Tesla acceleration number wrong. It's 1.98 seconds, not 2.9. Some awesome videos on Youtube of People being taken for a spin in these Cars. The reactions are priceless.
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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 4, 2022 7:42:29 GMT 12
It's a technology that is changing rapidly and difficult to keep up with. It has moved on from the trial period and is now Commercial overseas. Several major names are manufacturing Trucks right now and it is just a matter of time before we see them here in NZ. Even the Fuel Cells have improved. I am struggling to find the numbers to be able to compare performance between Fuel Cell tech and Combustion Tech. All the Hydrogen producers are heading down the road of "green energy" production of Hydrogen, although depending on where a hydrogen producer is, Green can be vague as we all know. There are two main methods of producing Hydrogen. The cracking of water is the common and requires electrictiy of course, and steam conversion of Methane, also energy hungry, but a third development has been created using catalysts, whuch of ciurse is far less energy intensive. In fact I would not want to be a commercial producer of Hydrogen right at the mo. By the time one builds a commercial plant using the first two methods, which all new plants I know of are utilizing, the technology is going to be out of date and someone will come along with a new cheaper means of making the stuff. Oh and I got the Tesla acceleration number wrong. It's 1.98 seconds, not 2.9. Some awesome videos on Youtube of People being taken for a spin in these Cars. The reactions are priceless. On a commercial basis means with a wide spread fuelling network that is at competitive basis with diesel, I cannot identify any country that has reached this point. Yes, there are trucks around, I see Hyundai is going to trial a 5 in NZ this year, as they are doing in Switzerland, Netherlands and California to name a couple of locations. fuelcellsworks.com/news/the-first-hydrogen-trucks-are-rolling-in-europe/I cannot find anywhere commercial yet
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jan 4, 2022 9:14:26 GMT 12
I have not problem parking my car.
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