Interesting Boats

Whilst I have always admired the Moody Carbineer 52 Motor Sailor - especially the luxury afforded by the wheelhouse in bad weather - I’ve always wondered about the sailing performance. I don’t imagine it’s stellar.

The twin 70hp Perkins seem a bit of overkill too - and suggest it’s more of a motor boat then a sailor. I’d have preferred a single 110hp Yanmar for weight, space and maintenance purposes.

I used to sail on a centre cockpit Westerly of that size, fairly sure it was an Oceanlord.
It was the company boat. The company had a sailing club, collectively did a circumnavigation of the British Isles.
Then they sold it and got a Halberg Rassy 42 centre cockpit. That was a nice boat. Among other trips I did a week at the Isles of Silly on it. That was a bit weird actually, felt like I was in NZ, and thought maybe I was getting homesick or something. Then realised there were NZ plants everywhere, flaxes, cabbage trees, hebes etc. Turns out all the early explorers would drop their botanical samples there cause it was the warmest place in the UK. So there I was sitting in a classic English pub garden, in the sun, which was very strange for England, surrounded by NZ native plants and trees.

You guys would probably loose your rag if you knew which company had a yacht for the staff. It was a public utility company. Company got sold and the new owners decided it was 'poor optics' for a public utility to own a nice yacht for the staff, so it got sold.
Boats name was 'Running Water'...

Moodys have traditionally been cruisers with ability to motor distances with ease, hence the twins probably.
It's only very recently any sort of improved sailing only performance has been chucked in.

Dad got so close to buying one when I was in the UK. The plan being me and the 3 mates I was with sail it back. But mum squished the idea mainly due to the diesel stove and no fridge. Cooling food was the bilges, due to sea water temp being so low. Heating and cooking was on a was diesel fired stove, not unlike a bot belly. The problem being things were significantly build in. The stove/heater worked bloody well but it would be horrendous in a NZ summer.

I'm sure the thought of 4 x 17yos who had been the cause of much chaos in rural Little Bookham sailing her back was not a concern....he says reaching for the Tui ad. To be fair the chaos was just us bring standard Kiwi teenage male activities to a part of the world whose last international visitor Napoleon or some Romans.

Do salesman read before posting?? I have never seen a single masted schooner but here it is folks.

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/4919496262

My 9 year old could take better photos than that. Most are out of focus, the interior ones are waaay to close in to really see anything. Shame no one thought to give the boat a wash before photographing.

Gulf Group listed our sister ship, so I had some discussions with them about selling ours, and what it may be worth. The broker actually got to the point that I was probably better off just listing it myself on TM. At least he was honest. The basis of that was that we are on a pile mooring, so I assumed we'd need to bung it in a marina for a month so punters could look onboard easily with the broker. But as I am 10 minutes away from the boat I could show prospective punters myself, or put it on the club pontoon with an hours notice. The only thing Gulf Group would do extra was put it on their own website, in addition to TM. The only other thing they do is have a pro-forma sale and purchase agreement, but as the broker said, there are plenty available online.

So all I'd need to do is pay for my own listing, instead of paying Gulf Group. Kind of a flawed business model for them really.

In all the boat browsing I've done, I've determined Vinings and Gulf Group are fairly shit really. Photos are shit. Descriptions are average. Search functions on their websites are worse than ordinary. Gulf Group never managed to sell our sister ship. There appears to be a massive glut of old shitters that tend to list with those two outfits, where there are a handful of other brokers that list the ones that are a bit better looked after, a bit more valuable. Still a step down from the $million plus stink pots though.

I do judge a brokerage if a boat doesn't sell, hangs around for ages. Sure, that can be the market, but my expectations is a good broker will move it, even if that involves getting the vendor to set a realistic asking price in the first instance. I'd expect brokers to know that type of thing (what a realistic asking price is), otherwise they are just glorified trademe administrators.