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Post by OLD ROPE π on Apr 18, 2022 20:26:41 GMT 12
If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance. Would you vote for them?. ...
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Apr 18, 2022 20:53:52 GMT 12
Post by deleted on Apr 18, 2022 20:53:52 GMT 12
So much racism. What a white racist you are.
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Post by Cantab on Apr 18, 2022 21:06:48 GMT 12
Just like Cindy, name calling and won't answer the question.
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Apr 18, 2022 21:25:39 GMT 12
Post by deleted on Apr 18, 2022 21:25:39 GMT 12
Just like Cindy, name calling and won't answer the question. You're one of the many (but not worst) offenders. No I would not vote for them, they would be over, National would disappear into oblivion if they came out with such a policy. Fortunately the majority of National voters (including me) are not racist and so this theoretical policy will never happen. For if it did you'd quickly realise how much of a minority you are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 8:57:46 GMT 12
You wouldn't know racism if you fell over it. A question with the first word "if" and asking about a scenario that will) could be before the Voters of NZ is not racism!
But to you and your stupidity it obvious is.
Q: why does the Maori party get so few votes if Kiwis are " Maori orientated"
Q: why does National get so many votes ( latest polls) if they are anti co governance and deemed, by your double standards, to be racist.
You my friend are a π―% moron
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 9:17:39 GMT 12
Just like Cindy, name calling and won't answer the question. You're one of the many (but not worst) offenders.Β No I would not vote for them, they would be over, National would disappear into oblivion if they came out with such a policy.Β Fortunately the majority of National voters (including me) are not racist and so this theoretical policy will never happen. For if it did you'd quickly realise how much of a minority you are.Β according to your dumb standards and PATHETIC logic the national party is a racist party by virtue of opposing co governance! As such, their voter base, which is growing, must be racist and so must you be . National voters are anti labour/ Maori party people. Their not Racist! They are just not into promoting devicive racist policy's If you think that people question the way Maori negative stats are determined, or the way we perceive the poor behavior of Maori is racist (based on facts supplied by govt) then you don't have a clue to the meaning of of the word racist. Take the prison stats. Maori break the Rules more than any other race. They do it. Nobody holds a Gun to their head, and they blame the system! Sooo... If we discuss this, you think it's racist!... Until Maori take responsibility for thier issues and this country keeps making excuses for them, this country will always be divided and national will always be a strong party. ...
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Apr 19, 2022 13:50:23 GMT 12
Post by Fogg on Apr 19, 2022 13:50:23 GMT 12
I think this is less about race and more about politics - specifically the different political approaches to equality vs equity. Some people / parties / politicians believe we should give everyone equal opportunity (usually called βequalityβ). Whereas others we should go past that and pursue equality of outcome (usually called βequityβ). And it is a political / philosophical belief in seeking βequityβ that leads to race-based systems being built - to try to create equal outcomes. And it is a political / philosophical belief that equality of opportunity is enough - and the systems should stop there and thereafter let nature run its course - resulting in different outcomes. Hereβs a picture that summarises it better than me.
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Post by OLD ROPE π on Apr 19, 2022 15:43:29 GMT 12
Wow!... Pop out for a second an boom π₯ she's goin off.
Exactly Fogg!. .. this was to see what political policy/s would get people to vote for them and not a " get rid of Maori $pecial treatment thread"
There's no doubt the politically left leaning " insecure" woke are blinded by thier " let's save everything/ everbody " overzealous cancel culture ahead of reality and letting the " affected" actually figure it out for themselves.
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Post by GO30 on Apr 20, 2022 15:28:22 GMT 12
If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance. Would you vote for them?. ... Nope as they talk far bigger than they actually walk or even are prepared to consider walking.
You could swap Labour for National and my response would be identical.
We desperately need to time limit all pollies, 3 terms is enough.
Wouldn't adding the term 'white' make that statement rather racist itself?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 17:51:49 GMT 12
If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance. Would you vote for them?. ... Nope as they talk far bigger than they actually walk or even are prepared to consider walking.
You could swap Labour for National and my response would be identical.
We desperately need to time limit all pollies, 3 terms is enough.
Wouldn't adding the term 'white' make that statement rather racist itself?
no! only if he called him a black racist.
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Post by OLD ROPE π on Apr 20, 2022 20:31:14 GMT 12
If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance. Would you vote for them?. ... Nope as they talk far bigger than they actually walk or even are prepared to consider walking.
You could swap Labour for National and my response would be identical.
We desperately need to time limit all pollies, 3 terms is enough.
Wouldn't adding the term 'white' make that statement rather racist itself?
but if they did ! Would you?
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Apr 20, 2022 20:47:58 GMT 12
Post by eri on Apr 20, 2022 20:47:58 GMT 12
Luxon said that the "maori health" Authority β which is expected to be in place by July this year β was an inefficient use of resources and would end up in direct competition with Health New Zealand.
"I believe a single system with innovation and components around targeting people on the basis of need and partnering through devolution and through localism with iwi and through local government, to actually get better outcomes," he said.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Apr 20, 2022 22:58:43 GMT 12
What about the nurses backpay........Little will hold out until the changeover and all the negotiations with the DHB's out the door.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 7:47:02 GMT 12
Well spotted sloop!
Dolittle will be exposed as a bigger fraud then.
How did the miner recovery go Dolittle?... How much did that cost again?.
People forget that those miners died because they put wages ahead of saftey and didn't stand up to management with regard to the saftey concerns they had.. But one guy did! He resigned and went back to Japan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 7:54:26 GMT 12
Masaoki Nishioka (Oki), a Japanese mining expert hired in mid-2010 to commission Pikeβs hydro-mining system β which was critical to the companyβs ambitious coal production forecasts β was terrified of the combination of Pikeβs gassy coal, its inadequate ventilation and gas-monitoring system, and the lack of an emergency exit. He says he warned middle and senior managers several times and nothing was acted on. Oki left after three months, fearing an explosion i.stuff.co.nz/national/pike-river-mine-disaster/6018975/Pike-River-management-deny-hearing-experts-warnings
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