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Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 21, 2022 8:18:33 GMT 12
If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance. Would you vote for them?. ... Nope as they talk far bigger than they actually walk or even are prepared to consider walking.
You could swap Labour for National and my response would be identical.
We desperately need to time limit all pollies, 3 terms is enough.
Wouldn't adding the term 'white' make that statement rather racist itself?
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Apr 21, 2022 8:28:10 GMT 12
Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 21, 2022 8:28:10 GMT 12
To which I would add Senior management of ALL Govt.departments. The 'Sir Humphreys" are invisible to the voters and need churning also. And no ,I wouldn't vote for anyone who promised that. And not for racist reasons either. Co governance can't work just like a co skipper .Someone has to be in charge. Imagine a Churchill / Chamberlain co governance as an example. But ToW needs to end. Otherwise NZ faces neverending claims from non affiliated urban maori and unborn maori. In the end NZ has to rid itself of MMP and minor parties being the tail that wags the dog. Remember it was Winnie that got NZ into this mess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 9:12:53 GMT 12
This is the type of leader NZ deserves.. . No bullshit Decisive Focussed Not woke Good looking And with a better party logo.. let's dooooooo it! Woof woof m.youtube.com/watch?v=8UlaAHdcRMg
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Apr 21, 2022 12:25:53 GMT 12
Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 21, 2022 12:25:53 GMT 12
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Apr 21, 2022 12:34:00 GMT 12
Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 21, 2022 12:34:00 GMT 12
Nooooooo...I don't think so. You really must stop making incorrect assumptions.The problem with that premise is that it presupposes that in 2017 the number of bureaucrats was right. I don't think so. Most bureaucrats spend their time following process ,box ticking and internal politiking. If they had to run their business as a business my experience is that numbers would drop significantly. It works like this. The more people you have in the department the more the HoD's get paid. So the incentive is to create,the reverse of private enterprise where you get rewarded for thrift and saving in whatever form.
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Apr 21, 2022 13:34:17 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 13:34:17 GMT 12
No assumptions admiral. Based on your reply, You agree with more of the question than you don't.
You're right about public v private.
Labour love employing people on the taxpayer nipple... They have employed 13000 more labour voters, 40,000 new beneficiaries/ labour supporters and subsidies thru covid ten of thousands of people and they are still falling in the polls.
When you think about it Labour are really only about four people. Jabcinda, Robbingsin, dripkins, and Dolittle. The rest are Arderns cannon fodder.
National are a bit better then there is the mongrel rest.
MMP has not served us we'll. It's lower the quality and split the vote.
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Apr 21, 2022 13:39:24 GMT 12
Post by OLD ROPE ๐ on Apr 21, 2022 13:39:24 GMT 12
This is the type of leader NZ deserves.. . No bullshit Decisive Focussed Not woke Good looking And with a better party logo.. let's dooooooo it! Woof woof m.youtube.com/watch?v=8UlaAHdcRMgGotta love flash heart!. ๐๐๐
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Post by GO30 on Apr 27, 2022 20:16:27 GMT 12
Nope as they talk far bigger than they actually walk or even are prepared to consider walking.
You could swap Labour for National and my response would be identical.
We desperately need to time limit all pollies, 3 terms is enough.
Wouldn't adding the term 'white' make that statement rather racist itself? but if they did ! Would you? Sorry I've been a tad busy, crazy busy.
Would I vote Nats 'If National promised to end treaty claims immediately, halt All race based/biased organisations/governance/laws/ preferential rules etc, and abolish co governance.'
I doubt it for 2 reasons.
One is the lack of trust I have in politicians these days. As I told a hard core leftist who was throwing huge shade on Seymour today, 'Calm down dude before you do yourself an injury or teach your kids to be intolerant and to look just stupid. Seymour can say whatever he likes as he doesn't have to walk his talk'. The same applies to Luxon at the moment. Pollys are well aware the average voter has a worse memory than used dunny paper, Robertson said just that only a week or 3 back when asked if he was concerned the voters would remember some dumb shit he did, so what's said today will be forgotten by election time.
Secondly I have watched NZ decline in so many areas over the last 30 years, some of those areas are now killing NZers before their time and in big numbers. All of this has happened under National and Labours reigns. I see zero sign of the Leopards changing their spots.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:34:29 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Apr 28, 2022 16:34:29 GMT 12
Agree there is no โbig thinkingโ being demonstrated by any political camp at the moment. I canโt work out if thatโs because:
1. They lack the intellectual horsepower to โthink bigโ to start with or 2. Theyโve got the big ideas but too timid to publish them in a woke world
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Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 28, 2022 16:54:51 GMT 12
None of the above. The MMP / Party system has killed off most of those who would be capable. And even if they get through that screen the bureaucracy kills them off if they don't conform . KM is dead right .The electors generally have an electoral memory of 3 to 6 weeks depending on the issues. The bimbo and her nincompoops will have electoral bribes lined up which just might be more sucessful than the $55 million media buyout
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