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Post by deleted on Apr 18, 2022 21:18:29 GMT 12
I am absolutely gobsmacked at the quantity of rascsm on this site.
Are you all so racist that not one of you call it out? Or are you all so scared of calling it out because the other people might judge you? Consider yourself judged.
You all should be ashamed of yourselves for participating and letting it happen.
Whoever the site owner is, you're a disgrace to the human race for letting such atrocities go on unmanaged.
Site should be renamed 'NZ Sailing for white racists'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 8:56:19 GMT 12
You wouldn't know racism if you fell over it. A question with the first word "if" and asking about a scenario that will) could be before the Voters of NZ is not racism!
But to you and your stupidity it obvious is.
Q: why does the Maori party get so few votes if Kiwis are " Maori orientated"
Q: why does National get so many votes ( latest polls) if they are anti co governance and deemed, by your double standards, to be racist.
You my friend are a 💯% moron.
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Post by chariot on Apr 19, 2022 9:17:22 GMT 12
And race based policy isn't racist? That is what is going to tear this country apart.
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Post by fish on Apr 19, 2022 10:14:02 GMT 12
I am absolutely gobsmacked at the quantity of rascsm on this site. Are you all so racist that not one of you call it out? Or are you all so scared of calling it out because the other people might judge you? Consider yourself judged. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for participating and letting it happen. Whoever the site owner is, you're a disgrace to the human race for letting such atrocities go on unmanaged. Site should be renamed 'NZ Sailing for white racists' Do you know what a tautology is? You are saying black is white. You are calling us racist because we oppose race based preferential rules. Aren't race based preferential rules the definition of racist? What the government is implementing is very similar in principal to the apartheid era South Africa. Yes, Maori are over-represented in all negative stats. I've no issue with addressing that. But that can easily be done on a 'needs based' policy, rather than a race based policy. There are plenty of 'white trash' around who drink heavily, are overweight, have chronic health problems, are poorly educated and have criminal histories. The also tend to live in poor quality or overcrowded houses, and have a propensity to be involved in either drugs or crime. Should they be ignored? Sure, we have been cristiscing the new Health lady for having a Ta Moko (scribbles on her face). The issue there is that someone has been appointed based on their appearances rather than their capability. Once upon a time that would be called sexism, hiring women based on their physical appearance. You know, nice boobs, blond hair and short skirts. All you are coming up with is emotive BS, and if you managed to put an argument up, it would be based solely on hypocrisy. Further, you are clearly too chicken to actually have a user name, and if you have the fortitude to respond, I'll bet it will be based around a personal attack on me, or the site in general. Showing a complete lack of either logic or an ability to put you case in a compelling way. I'd go so far to say that you have something to do with that other site, and you are jealous that we can talk freely and express opinions without fear of retribution, like getting banned. The mere fact you can log on here and say what you say is an example of that freedom. I could go so far as to suggest you are jealous of the traffic and number of interactions on here, while you watch the tumbleweed blow through what was once a great site (the other one), but which you have managed to wreck by gagging anyone with a view that you disagree with. I would respect you a little, if you have the fortitude to come back and put an arguement behind your rant. But I suspect you are a weak little toe-jam who lacks the intellect to string together two sentences, and you have merely been captured by the woke left and are regurgitating govt PR. Thank you for calling, have a Great Day!
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Post by GO30 on Apr 20, 2022 13:03:26 GMT 12
Now thats a very cowardly OP. A sure sign of a troll rather than someone with a genuine grip.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 17:38:55 GMT 12
Now thats a very cowardly OP. A sure sign of a troll rather than someone with a genuine grip. a labour supporter. He's brought into all the spin from Arderns teams of " unreality stars".
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Post by dutyfree on Apr 22, 2022 13:00:29 GMT 12
Bloody deleted again
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Post by eri on Apr 22, 2022 17:21:59 GMT 12
"As the disadvantaged group is those on the General roll, changing representation arrangements away from proportional representation therefore creates a disadvantage for non-Māori as they cannot in future elect to change rolls." Parker concluded : "The Bill appears to limit the right to be free from discrimination affirmed in s 19 of the Bill of Rights Act and cannot be justified." National MP Paul Goldsmith said on Friday it would be a "constitutional outrage" if the legislation went ahead in what appeared to be a breach of the Bill of Rights Act. "If they don't drop the Bill, the Prime Minister, or at least the Minister of Justice, should front up and explain why they think it's no longer appropriate that all New Zealanders should have equal power in deciding who governs them."
www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/04/attorney-general-david-parker-deems-rotorua-council-s-proposed-m-ori-ward-restructure-discriminatory.html
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Post by fish on Apr 22, 2022 19:31:18 GMT 12
"As the disadvantaged group is those on the General roll, changing representation arrangements away from proportional representation therefore creates a disadvantage for non-Māori as they cannot in future elect to change rolls." Parker concluded : "The Bill appears to limit the right to be free from discrimination affirmed in s 19 of the Bill of Rights Act and cannot be justified." National MP Paul Goldsmith said on Friday it would be a "constitutional outrage" if the legislation went ahead in what appeared to be a breach of the Bill of Rights Act. "If they don't drop the Bill, the Prime Minister, or at least the Minister of Justice, should front up and explain why they think it's no longer appropriate that all New Zealanders should have equal power in deciding who governs them."
www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/04/attorney-general-david-parker-deems-rotorua-council-s-proposed-m-ori-ward-restructure-discriminatory.htmlThere is a very interesting sub-text here. The Rotorua Maori seats bill was introduced to Parliament by the one and only Tamati Coffey. Coffey is a list MP, having lost the Rotorua Maori seat to Te Parti Maori... by a very slime margin. Now Coffey, and Labour, are trying to out Maori the Maori Party, obviously to win that seat again at the next election. It is like getting the check book out and buying votes, but instead of cash, he is using power and influence of the Labour Maori Caucus, and instead of cash, he is selling the Bill of Rights...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2022 8:41:23 GMT 12
Coffey and Jackson are mouthy little boys.
MMP bludgers who have never been given a democrat voice by NZ voter, yet have to much say!....and yet Ardern is strangely their puppet....
She backed herself into the Maori wonderfulness corner when she promised to be held accountable at the waitangi "spin fest" celebrations 3 and 2 years ago.
Maori, or to be accurate part Maori only represent 18% of the pop. Yet want 50% of the say.
Imagine, despite the UNs indigenous people act,if any of other country gave one race veto over the countries democracy, rules , and people...
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 23, 2022 10:05:05 GMT 12
Maori, or to be accurate part Maori only represent 18% of the pop. Yet want 50% 100% of the say. This is their objective with He Puapua proposing a Maori controlled upper house in Parliament
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Post by GO30 on Apr 27, 2022 20:04:36 GMT 12
Coffey and Jackson are mouthy little boys. MMP bludgers who have never been given a democrat voice by NZ voter, yet have to much say!....and yet Ardern is strangely their puppet.... She backed herself into the Maori wonderfulness corner when she promised to be held accountable at the waitangi "spin fest" celebrations 3 and 2 years ago. Maori, or to be accurate part Maori only represent 18% of the pop. Yet want 50% of the say. Imagine, despite the UNs Selected to be indigenous people act,if any of other country gave one race veto over the countries democracy, rules , and people... Gents careful please.
You are discussing 2 of the most racist people in NZ and in doing so you run the risk of triggering Deleted again.
Yeah I know he/she/it wont apply the same rules to all races, racists never do. Take Jackson and Coffey as 2 glaring examples.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 19:38:51 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on May 26, 2022 20:10:04 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on May 27, 2022 13:26:28 GMT 12
Saw that bit by Karl and thought it was very well expressed and accurate.
Last week I saw a snippet by Ricki Gevias (spelling) on one of those US talk shows where he explained how he now starts his shows having to do a bit around what irony is and how during his show he makes jokes not statements. He reckons mature audiences do know the difference but there is a growing number who are unable to separate intentional humour about a situation from being a personal directed attack on a individual. I'm not a big fan of Rickis humour but I though he explained it very well. Dave Chapell (more spelling warnings) also said similar just after he got attacked on stage.
Basically the term racist has been so thrashed it is a totally inappropriate word to be used as often as it is. Also when it's used by many they do what the OP did in exactly what they are bitching to others for doing and doing so without recognising what the angst is actually about. If only the OP asked what the angst is rather than just stupidly assuming, they may have been able to make a genuine difference. But I suppose the wee delicate feels good they have had their, generally, pointless and often self defeating rant and can chest puff to their mates 'look what I did, aren't I the hero'. The fact is often they achieve exactly zero bar making themselves look shallow and ignorant, very much like the OP sadly. The worst part is the overly twitchy sad people can't see the damage they are doing to society.
The terms 'racism' and 'racist' have just become more shut down words that stops conversations that desperately need to be had from being able to be had. Others include #metoo, sexist, ageist and more. I pity those who do that sort of dumbarsery as they don't know the damage they are really doing. One day when they grow up maybe they will.
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