Post by ComfortZone on Jun 19, 2022 14:21:15 GMT 12
Last week was the 40th anniversary of the end of the Falklands war
www.bbc.com/news/uk-61799056
The biggest miscalculation the Argies made was that, at least in those days, the British are the most ruthless enemy you can take on. Also showed the French up for what they are in the way they provided technical support to the Argies for their Exocet missiles, remember this was just 3-4 yrs before the Rainbow warrior
These are a couple of comments from other forums
The USN said it couldn't be done.
The campaign broke all the rules of mounting a seaborne invasion.
1 Extremely long supply lines. 8K NM out and same back. Remember even the landing in the Pacific War did not have supply lines that long.
2 3-1 superiority for the landing troops. It was basically 1-1
3 3-1 Air superiority. Argies outnumbered the RAF by many factors, and the Argentinian pilots were fearless.
4 Land near your objective, it was 50 miles across E Falkland and no Chinooks so it was a Yomp and a Tab.
All over in 75 days!!!
A lot of the bombs that the Argentinians dropped that actually hit British ships didn't explode because they were dropped from too low an altitude so the fuses did not arm.
Of course the dopey BBC mentioned this in one of their "from the ship" news broadcasts so the Argentinians promptly fixed the problem.
This is why you should never let the media anywhere near the action and doing unvetted live reporting, they should be kept away and only provided with screened information. Imagine if our MSM was with the British in the Falklands campaign, the British would have lost with the Argentinians knowing every move.
I subsequently worked with 2 veterans, 1 from each side. A manager of mine had been the Commander (Engineering) on the Hermes, he drily remarked that the exocet missile that took out the container ship Atlantic Conveyor had the Hermes name on it but the container ship "got in the way".
Whilst in Sth America working on a project in Argentina I had a colleague who had been in the Argentine Naval reserve and was taken prisoner of war on the Falklands. He told the story of complaining to the guards about the food being given to the prisoners and was duly taken to the British Senior Officer, who was eating with the other officers, where he repeated the complaint. He said the reply he received was a little unexpected "You are getting the same shit we are mate, pull up a chair and join us"! The other comment he made was that Argentina never expected/prepared for fighting a war, they thought it was just going to be the case of planting their flag on the islands, leave a few troops there and it would be all over
To this day Argentinians still complain about the Falklands, so I enjoy winding them up asking when are they going to return the 1/3 of Paraguay they annexed (Brazil also took 1/3) in the war of the Triple Alliance which ended 1870. Gets lots of back pedaling and claims it was always theirs
www.bbc.com/news/uk-61799056
The biggest miscalculation the Argies made was that, at least in those days, the British are the most ruthless enemy you can take on. Also showed the French up for what they are in the way they provided technical support to the Argies for their Exocet missiles, remember this was just 3-4 yrs before the Rainbow warrior
These are a couple of comments from other forums
The USN said it couldn't be done.
The campaign broke all the rules of mounting a seaborne invasion.
1 Extremely long supply lines. 8K NM out and same back. Remember even the landing in the Pacific War did not have supply lines that long.
2 3-1 superiority for the landing troops. It was basically 1-1
3 3-1 Air superiority. Argies outnumbered the RAF by many factors, and the Argentinian pilots were fearless.
4 Land near your objective, it was 50 miles across E Falkland and no Chinooks so it was a Yomp and a Tab.
All over in 75 days!!!
A lot of the bombs that the Argentinians dropped that actually hit British ships didn't explode because they were dropped from too low an altitude so the fuses did not arm.
Of course the dopey BBC mentioned this in one of their "from the ship" news broadcasts so the Argentinians promptly fixed the problem.
This is why you should never let the media anywhere near the action and doing unvetted live reporting, they should be kept away and only provided with screened information. Imagine if our MSM was with the British in the Falklands campaign, the British would have lost with the Argentinians knowing every move.
I subsequently worked with 2 veterans, 1 from each side. A manager of mine had been the Commander (Engineering) on the Hermes, he drily remarked that the exocet missile that took out the container ship Atlantic Conveyor had the Hermes name on it but the container ship "got in the way".
Whilst in Sth America working on a project in Argentina I had a colleague who had been in the Argentine Naval reserve and was taken prisoner of war on the Falklands. He told the story of complaining to the guards about the food being given to the prisoners and was duly taken to the British Senior Officer, who was eating with the other officers, where he repeated the complaint. He said the reply he received was a little unexpected "You are getting the same shit we are mate, pull up a chair and join us"! The other comment he made was that Argentina never expected/prepared for fighting a war, they thought it was just going to be the case of planting their flag on the islands, leave a few troops there and it would be all over
To this day Argentinians still complain about the Falklands, so I enjoy winding them up asking when are they going to return the 1/3 of Paraguay they annexed (Brazil also took 1/3) in the war of the Triple Alliance which ended 1870. Gets lots of back pedaling and claims it was always theirs
