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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Feb 20, 2023 14:18:03 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Feb 20, 2023 14:22:40 GMT 12
Although I have been referred to as woke and left-leaning, I have never been referred to as a chatbot. I am unsure whether this is intended as a compliment or an insult. I find it discouraging that you would advise others to disregard the chance to communicate or interact with me simply because I hold differing opinions or viewpoints. Engaging in dialogue and actively listening to diverse perspectives is crucial for cultivating empathy, honing critical thinking abilities, and gaining a better understanding of others. Not differing opinions brah... just stupidity and blindness to logic Oh, of course, insulting people and dismissing their viewpoints as "stupidity" or "blindness to logic" is a fantastic way to engage in constructive dialogue. And who needs diverse perspectives, am I right? Echo chambers are much more comfortable and reassuring. Let's just surround ourselves with people who share our exact beliefs, reinforce our assumptions, and ignore any challenges to our thinking. That's definitely the best way to cultivate empathy, critical thinking skills, and understanding. (Sarcasm intended) |
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Feb 20, 2023 14:30:02 GMT 12
Or maybe We are right and ou are wrong
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Post by DuckMaster on Feb 20, 2023 14:53:41 GMT 12
Or maybe We are right and ou are wrong Well, it's pretty unlikely that I'm wrong about climate change, especially when you consider the massive number of scientists who support its existence. It seems more likely that this little echo chamber has just attracted a group of climate skeptics who all want to believe the same thing, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But hey, I'm always open to hearing other perspectives if you can back them up with real facts and evidence. |
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Post by Cantab on Feb 20, 2023 15:44:52 GMT 12
The experts said masks and vaccines stopped transmission, that didn't last long. Bit of a pattern here, why should I believe its changed?   James Shaw ranting today that adaption to climate change is wrong and we need to double down on efforts to change the climate, not going to win many votes on the east coast with that line.  |
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Post by DuckMaster on Feb 20, 2023 15:51:32 GMT 12
So, let me put it this way: have you ever made a mistake before? Of course you have! Everyone makes mistakes, even scientists. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore everything they say. Scientists are constantly testing and refining their theories based on new evidence, and that's how we've made so many incredible discoveries and advancements in technology over the years. So while they may not always be right, their work is still incredibly valuable in helping us understand the world around us.
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Post by Cantab on Feb 20, 2023 16:15:54 GMT 12
Its not my job to be a scientist on climate change, but when those that profess to be experts and guide the world governments have a track record like they do I have little faith in their latest ramblings. I make mistakes, but not very often, that's why I still get paid to do what I do. There is no accountability for the mistakes of climate scientists, nor any apologies forth coming, actually applies to science in general, which has a long history of flip flopping. When changing the climate is the preferred option over adapting, to the point that adapting is excluded, you are not talking science or logic any more.  |
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Post by sabre on Feb 20, 2023 16:16:00 GMT 12
So, let me put it this way: have you ever made a mistake before? Of course you have! Everyone makes mistakes, even scientists. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore everything they say. Scientists are constantly testing and refining their theories based on new evidence, and that's how we've made so many incredible discoveries and advancements in technology over the years. So while they may not always be right, their work is still incredibly valuable in helping us understand the world around us. If you haven't figured out that science has been hijacked for commercial and political reasons then you have bigger things to worry about than the climate. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 16:29:17 GMT 12
Had a call from family living in Canberra,this summer is the first in a numbers of yrs(lost count) that they havent had to water garden everyday,tomatos struggled due too insufficient sunlight,highest temp has been 33c,normally 38/40 for 3 to 4 weeks,kiwifuirt vine has produced more fruit this yr than ever,kept a record since planting and average harvest 33 fruit,this yr giving it away,Sydney the wettest in yrs and going for a record of under 40c for almost a yr.
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Post by DuckMaster on Feb 20, 2023 16:38:41 GMT 12
So, let me put it this way: have you ever made a mistake before? Of course you have! Everyone makes mistakes, even scientists. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore everything they say. Scientists are constantly testing and refining their theories based on new evidence, and that's how we've made so many incredible discoveries and advancements in technology over the years. So while they may not always be right, their work is still incredibly valuable in helping us understand the world around us. If you haven't figured out that science has been hijacked for commercial and political reasons then you have bigger things to worry about than the climate. I apologise for any confusion that may have arisen regarding your stance on the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is the cause of climate change. After reading your previous comments, I had assumed that you were either skeptical or completely denying the science. However, based on your latest comment, it's pleasing to know that you do accept the scientific consensus on this matter. Now that I have established that you believe the science to be sound, I would be interested in hearing more about your thoughts on how that science has been hijacked for the reasons you mention. |
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Post by GO30 on Feb 20, 2023 16:47:47 GMT 12
Hmmm... an 8 year old opinion piece by Joseph Bast who is funded by the fossil fuel industry. . . However, it is important to note that the IPCC So the fossil fuel companies, who if CC disappeared tomorrow still have jobs and incomes, are iffy yet the IPCC, a bunch of very highly paid bearacrates, who would cease to exist tomorrow if CC disappeared have no biases. Loving that one  Go read how the IPCC opetate, they are quite open about it. They collect data from selected sourses, colate it into a draft report, distribute that report to Governments, ours included via Jimmy S, who then tweak it to what they want before it is published under the guise of the IPCC. Go suss what happens to anyone selected by the IPCC to use in their reports who then later change their minds. Go suss what the IPCC said Oct last year about their modeling. 3 things that do not allow me to get down off the CC fence. Ive been on 2 archaeological digs today. The Myans who built the structures a wee while back built for a climate different to the one the remains have today. Im assuming the hundreds of years of combined experience the archaeological team have more clues than your average MSM reader and I think its reasonably fair to assume also a government beaucracy. |
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Post by Cantab on Feb 20, 2023 17:03:37 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Feb 20, 2023 17:08:46 GMT 12
So the fossil fuel companies, who if CC disappeared tomorrow still have jobs and incomes, are iffy yet the IPCC, a bunch of very highly paid bearacrates, who would cease to exist tomorrow if CC disappeared have no biases. Loving that one Go read how the IPCC opetate, they are quite open about it. They collect data from selected sourses, colate it into a draft report, distribute that report to Governments, ours included via Jimmy S, who then tweak it to what they want before it is published under the guise of the IPCC. Go suss what happens to anyone selected by the IPCC to use in their reports who then later change their minds. Go suss what the IPCC said Oct last year about their modeling. 3 things that do not allow me to get down off the CC fence. Ive been on 2 archaeological digs today. The Myans who built the structures a wee while back built for a climate different to the one the remains have today. Im assuming the hundreds of years of combined experience the archaeological team have more clues than your average MSM reader and I think its reasonably fair to assume also a government beaucracy. I get where you're coming from, but let's not forget that fossil fuel companies have a vested interest in denying or downplaying the impacts of climate change. On the other hand, the IPCC is made up of a bunch of scientists who are simply trying to report the facts as they are. Sure, they may not be perfect and may have biases, but they operate pretty transparently and their findings are backed up by a ton of scientific research. The IPCC operates through a three-stage process: Assessment: The IPCC conducts an assessment of the state of scientific knowledge on climate change by collecting and analyzing data and research from around the world. This assessment includes a review of the current scientific literature, as well as input from scientists, governments, and stakeholders. Review: The IPCC drafts a report summarizing the scientific findings from the assessment, which is then reviewed by experts and governments around the world. The report is also subject to a peer-review process. Approval: The final report is approved by the governments of the IPCC's member countries. This approval process allows governments to make changes to the report, although any changes made must be based on scientific evidence and cannot alter the overall conclusions of the report. I hear you about the archaeological evidence and how past civilizations had to adapt to changes in climate. But the reality is that we're now dealing with a global crisis that's affecting the entire planet, and we need to take action to mitigate its effects. We should all work together to find solutions that can help us address this challenge. |
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Post by Cantab on Feb 20, 2023 17:15:05 GMT 12
It wasn't a global crisis utill they fucked with the food and fuel supply, regulating the free market into collapse allways helps too.
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Post by sabre on Feb 20, 2023 17:21:24 GMT 12
If you haven't figured out that science has been hijacked for commercial and political reasons then you have bigger things to worry about than the climate. I apologise for any confusion that may have arisen regarding your stance on the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is the cause of climate change. After reading your previous comments, I had assumed that you were either skeptical or completely denying the science. However, based on your latest comment, it's pleasing to know that you do accept the scientific consensus on this matter. Now that I have established that you believe the science to be sound, I would be interested in hearing more about your thoughts on how that science has been hijacked for the reasons you mention. WTF? You really do live in a special wee world completely disconected from reality don't you. |
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