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Post by fish on Sept 19, 2022 11:07:42 GMT 12
There is a guy at our club that got an H28 for loose change after it busted off a mooring somewhere. Patched it up and all (fairly nicely actually), and was talking about sailing it to Tahiti. I was like, 'you realise Tahiti is upwind all the way from here?' His response was not intelligable. Last time I spoke to him he was going to sea-trial the H28 in the inner Hauraki Gulf. I'm sure H28's are structurally sound for long ocean crossings, but I'd be more interested in the ability to carry enough food and water for the voyage. You'd need a fair bit of food for the time it would take. Solo would be fine, but two crew or more and you wouldn't have the space. Going downwind in the trades would be fine, but upwind to Tahiti? Be like masterbating with a cheese grater. I'd just go for Fiji like everyone else. An Austrian backpacker who worked as day crew on the boat I worked on turned up in Papeete 6 weeks after we arrived . He bought a tiny lidgard either 24 or 26 feet just after we left Auckland . Never been offshore only had school dinghy racing experience and his mate had never sailed either . I have no idea how they got cat1 but this was 1999 , the motor crapped out 3 days out from paps and batteries went flat so electronic nav aids and radio were gone . I think they followed another boat in the last two days and were super proud of their achievement , we were glad they were alive ! . The boat was tiny , from memory I think it was a quarter tonner . Memory is hazy but I think it took them 3 weeks Young, dumb and full... Two mates of mine had a little 1/4 tonner type boat. On their first trip to Great Barrier they used a road atlas instead of a chart. Only issue is they mixed up the Moehau Range for Great Barrier. Ended up eventually in Coromandel Town, anchored the boat and went ashore. Tide went out and they had to walk a km or so back through the mud to get onboard again... One of those guys went on to be a field safety officer in Antartica... |
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Post by sabre on Sept 20, 2022 11:29:05 GMT 12
Potential drama on the horizon...
UPDATE: Cape Verde Hurricane issue for #GGR2022 fleet? There may be a Hurricane developing from Thursday off the African coast that will cross the path of leading GGR entrants in the fleet. GGR Control is watching developments. The following sequence of three WINDY maps shows what may happen. Thursday 22nd-Friday 23rd- Saturday 24th. The final map shows the forecast from a different computer model. They suggest two completely different stories? It is always hard to predict when they are yet to form or while being born. Fingers crossed! The maps show MAX> GUSTS. Forecast winds would be about 25% less. At the moment it is very hard to suggest any course of action for any entrants other than stay away but each entrant will have to make that decision. For now we have not advised any actions. In the next 12-24 hours we will notify effected entrants.
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Post by sabre on Oct 1, 2022 3:44:54 GMT 12
The only female skipper in the GGR is having a stunning run. She found a pocket of wind in the middle of the course and has Just moved into 3rd and will likely move into second in the next few hours.
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Post by sabre on Nov 19, 2022 2:44:48 GMT 12
Drama on the high seas. Looks like Kirsten may have been reached now as she is heading directly towards Tapio. Hopefully she can achieve a successfull rescue..
UPDATE: PLB activation- Distress SIGNAL received from ASTERIA Tapio Lehtinen Sailing at 0654UCT. at 39. 06.07 S 03.20 44.1E approx. 450 miles SE of Port Elizabeth in South Africa. The PLB is packed INSIDE the life-raft and was activated manually. The onboard GGR Tracker has stopped transmitting. No satphone message has been received from Tapio. Nearest ship is approx. 270 miles from Tapio's last known position. Kirsten is approx 95miles SW of Tapio's last known position. GGR has so far been unable to contact her. Abhilash is approx. 170 miles SW of Tapio and is now proceeding to Tapio's last known position. MRCC South Africa is co-ordinating the Rescue effort. Weather conditions in the area 15-20kts 3-4mtr sea. #GGR2022 .
UPDATE : TAPIO DISTRESS.... Tapio is communicating with the YB3 Tracker-Texting device from the life raft..The YB3 tracker is giving positions with the EPIRB and PLB. He has no Glasses, so hard to read and send messages. He has the GRAB BAG. He is in his survival Suit. Asterias went down stern first in 5 minutes. Press release shortly with more information. #GGR2022
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Post by sabre on Nov 19, 2022 17:50:33 GMT 12
Fingers crossed Kirsten can make the pick up..
UPDATE: KIRSTEN AND TAPIO MADE CONTACT! At 0509UTC today Tapio mentioned he spoke to Kirsten, and at 0522 UTC that he has a visual on her. Conditions are fair, F4 SSE and 3 mtrs waves. Kirsten is assessing the situation for the best and safest recovery, and will update GGR CMT accordingly. Hang tight! #GGR2022
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Post by fish on Nov 19, 2022 21:26:02 GMT 12
Wow. Tapio is safe, onboard DARYA GAYATRI, heading to East.
Tapio boarded Kirsten's Minnehaha after nine, which moved the cargo ship next to Darya Gayatri.
After boarding, Tapio is now having a medical checkup. Waiting for the first phone call then we can tell you more facts. It seems that the GGR team has been following the rescue operation from the air and we will soon receive a recording of Kirsten's call.
The main thing is that the husband is safe, thanks everyone! ❤️
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Post by sabre on Nov 20, 2022 0:29:40 GMT 12
Great outcome. I'm looking forward to hearing why his boat sunk so quickly. If I remember right, his boat was set up with a watertight bulkhead which sealed off the stern area under the cockpit to prevent this happening if the rudder tube was damaged. The fact that it sank stern first suggests that someones maths was a bit out..
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Post by fish on Nov 20, 2022 8:50:32 GMT 12
Great outcome. I'm looking forward to hearing why his boat sunk so quickly. If I remember right, his boat was set up with a watertight bulkhead which sealed off the stern area under the cockpit to prevent this happening if the rudder tube was damaged. The fact that it sank stern first suggests that someones maths was a bit out.. For a boat that has been inspected and assessed as being safe to sail around the world, sinking stern first in 5 min certainly raises one or two questions. That they installed a watertight bulkhead in the stern area would suggest they knew of a weakness or risk of ingress in that area. You would have to assume the stern first part rules out a collision with a UFO. Anyone have a pic of the boat on the hard? I thought all these boats had to have keel hung rudders? (i.e. not even skeg hung) |
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Post by fish on Nov 20, 2022 9:02:35 GMT 12
Not hot soup, noodles or a pie, but of course a rum. Then back in the raft.... It was not an easy task however. Tapio had an early visual on Kirsten’s yacht but she could not see the liferaft in the swell. Kirsten would hear him on the VHF but Tapio could not hear her voice. The GGR Crisis Management Team homed her onto Tapio’s position until they were close enough to see and hear each other to plan for recovery. Kirsten called the GGR Management team at 0805 UTC to confirm that she had retrieved Tapio from the liferaft onto Minnehaha with a retrieving line. After sharing a good glass of rum, they then proceeded to put Tapio back in the raft, pulled it towards the carrier, which he then successfully boarded via a rescue ladder. goldengloberace.com/tapio-is-safe-and-sound/?fbclid=IwAR0rMVcJ4xIrB8ihPFhIgd3XQt_u2P6MZypemJwNmJnBo5CSy21jnwTBTdE |
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Post by sabre on Nov 20, 2022 10:18:16 GMT 12
Great outcome. I'm looking forward to hearing why his boat sunk so quickly. If I remember right, his boat was set up with a watertight bulkhead which sealed off the stern area under the cockpit to prevent this happening if the rudder tube was damaged. The fact that it sank stern first suggests that someones maths was a bit out.. For a boat that has been inspected and assessed as being safe to sail around the world, sinking stern first in 5 min certainly raises one or two questions. That they installed a watertight bulkhead in the stern area would suggest they knew of a weakness or risk of ingress in that area. You would have to assume the stern first part rules out a collision with a UFO. Anyone have a pic of the boat on the hard? I thought all these boats had to have keel hung rudders? (i.e. not even skeg hung) Definately full keel. I can't see any obvious weak point here.. www.nordicrefitcenter.fi/Benello-Gaia---S%26S-36/ |
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Post by fish on Nov 20, 2022 11:10:17 GMT 12
I counted five through hull fittings. But if a hose clip let go, I would have thought it would take longer than 5 mins to sink. Unless a compartment filled up without you noticing, and the stern was basically at the waterline by the time you noticed. Happened to Lisa Blair. Often something really tedious, like a leaking hatch. It is a paradox of sealed compartments, it is harder to know you have an issue. Basically need bilge alarms in every compartment, which introduces electrical components to fail, and cable ducts through all of your lovely bulkheads...
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Post by sabre on Nov 21, 2022 3:29:24 GMT 12
None the wiser after reading his account and may never know. Something catastrophic must of happened for this rate of ingress..
TAPIO LEHTINEN had to act in seconds when his Asteria boat started to fill with water on Friday in the Indian Ocean.
"I woke up on Friday around 8:30 a.m. to a loud bang. Get out of here. Because of the safety net, it took twenty seconds. At that point, the water was knee-deep in the boat's saloon. More water flooded the engine compartment at the rear," says Lehtinen.
From the huge amount of water, Lehtinen immediately understood that the boat was sinking.
"I dug out the radio, grab bag [emergency kit] and survival suit from the boat. I threw them on the deck in the sitting box. At that point, the water was waist-deep. I went on deck and put on my survival suit. I detached and launched the life raft into the water next to the boat."
LEHTINEN says that he still tried to get back inside Asteria, but it was already full of water.
"The water level in the saloon was 20 centimeters from the deck. It was impossible to go inside. The boat was still floating up to the deck in the water, the bow a little higher."
According to the Finnish skipper's description, the situation was dire.
"The most critical moment was when the pull knot of the life raft came loose. Fortunately, the weather was almost calm. I took a long leap into the water, grabbed the board and jumped in."
After this, Lehtinen could only watch as the "old lady" or the Asteria boat sank into the sea.
"I longingly followed Asteria's death struggle. The stern went under the water first. It sank slowly into the waves. At the last moment, I stood up shakily in the life raft and put my hand in the cap as a last salute to my friend."
Lehtinen does not want to think about what caused the boat to sink at this stage.
"Unfathomable thing. The boat was completely rebuilt almost five years ago. Everything except the survival suit and kalsars remained in the Asteria"
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Post by sabre on Apr 23, 2023 5:30:57 GMT 12
Not sure who is still following this but what a spectacular race! 5 boats left from the original 16. Only 3 officially still in the GGR and 2 in Chichester class due to stopping for repairs.
The first 3 boats are expected to arrive in les sables d'olonne in a few days time, all within 24hrs of each other!!!
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Post by muzled on Jan 14, 2024 14:06:20 GMT 12
Not the golden globe but just saw the Ocean Globe race go past taka.
Pen Duick in the lead by the looks.
Had a quick scroll through the rules. Last one is quite amusing.
BANNED items include
GPS
Electric Autopilots
Satphone use (for any purpose other than to communicate with Race Control)
Ham Radio transmissions
Carbonfibre or other high tech materials used in sails, rigging, spars etc
Spinnaker socks, Code 0 furling
No more than 11 sails (sloop) or 13 sails ketch (time penalty for extra replacement sails)
iPhone, iPad and computers (but all sealed onboard for crew use in ports only)
Digital music (cassette tapes only)
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jan 14, 2024 14:24:36 GMT 12
Yeap that's how we use to sail offshore, plus a 1 day old fax weather map.
A old transistor radio with short wave band to get the "Time Beeps"
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