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Post by El Toro on Nov 20, 2023 9:56:42 GMT 12
I read it as they were buttering us up for a ban
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Post by em on Nov 20, 2023 9:59:56 GMT 12
Nothing has changed. That is a classic MSM article catastrophising the situation. There were no new facts, details or announcements in that article. Much like every summer the MSM will run alarmist articles about sharks at our swimming beaches, they will now run alarmist articles at the start of summer about invasive pests leading to the collapse of the Hauraki Gulf. Reading between the lines it appears that BioNZ accept that A) there is bugger all they can do to control it, B) Acknowledge to a degree that it spreads naturally on tides and currents and C) it is likely not to be as catastrophic as many of the experts are making out. Yep it’s about the right time for a “bowentown juvenile greatwhite spotted from a tinny “ news article with token soothing comments from Clinton Duffy and Riley Elliott |
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Post by harrytom on Nov 20, 2023 10:28:58 GMT 12
It is in Fiztroy at kaikoura island
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Post by chariot on Nov 20, 2023 11:31:42 GMT 12
Soon be like a lot of the northern hemisphere, only go from marina to marina.
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Post by sabre on Nov 20, 2023 12:29:36 GMT 12
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Post by harrytom on Nov 20, 2023 15:14:57 GMT 12
Those clams had to imported by some fucker and dropped there,just like ones in waikato river in Hamilton.Obviously someone hasnt done their job properly at arrival points to NZ |
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Post by fish on Nov 20, 2023 16:28:34 GMT 12
That makes no sense. So you have to take your boat to a commercial car wash in Rotorua before going to that trout fishing lake. But for some reason you are only allowed on the Lake on weekends. Surely if you wash your boat at said place in Rotorua you should be able to go for a trout fish any time you want? Just put CCTV at the boat ramp, no need for inspectors or cultural liaison people clipping the ticket... |
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Post by sabre on Nov 20, 2023 20:08:50 GMT 12
That makes no sense. So you have to take your boat to a commercial car wash in Rotorua before going to that trout fishing lake. But for some reason you are only allowed on the Lake on weekends. Surely if you wash your boat at said place in Rotorua you should be able to go for a trout fish any time you want? Just put CCTV at the boat ramp, no need for inspectors or cultural liaison people clipping the ticket... Certainly a good way to piss people off. Also there is a significant possibility that someone will deliberately release clams there to undermine their ridiculous heavy handed approach. Apparently people have already been threatening to do this. It certainly wouldn't be hard to do. |
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Post by fish on Nov 23, 2023 9:18:39 GMT 12
Caulerpa can be found growing below the tideline at between two and 30 metres on hard surfaces and in sandy areas. When established, exotic caulerpa can cover large areas of the seafloor in dense mats. It's easily spread by currents, boat anchors, and even stingrays slicing through it. The above is another MSM story with more hand wringing about what to do about caulerpa. Barrier locals want more to be done (fair enough). MPI say there is nothing that can be done. Accept of course holding Hui. Noting the chair of the Iwi trust says he is all hui'ed out. The Iwi Chair wants all boating banned, but notes this will kill Island businesses. I suspect some nimbyism around not wanting hoards of tourists at his place over the holidays. This is common for locals that live in prime tourist locations. He also notes that extending the CAN's will put additional fishing pressure on open areas. That is a real issue too. The big question is the expiring CAN's. Renew them, extend them or cancel them? Personally I can't accept from a technical point of view that boat anchors are the primary spreader. Sure, if you have a bay completely covered in it, you will disturb it with an anchor. But what difference does that make? The story has a photo of a beach thick with the stuff after cyclone Gabriel, i.e. big swell and storm events are super-spreaders. I think it best to drop the CAN's altogether, but give a good information campaign as to where it is, how to check your anchor and how to disinfect you chain and anchor. I don't see any relationship between anchoring bans and treating or eliminating caulerpa. The best we can hope for is natural changes in where systems knocking it back. i.e. El nino increasing water vis (caulerpa doesn't like sunlight). The same as how fanworm has died off after the floods. It can't handle fresh water. www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018916434/the-smothering-weed-spreading-fast-and-far |
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Post by harrytom on Nov 23, 2023 10:41:50 GMT 12
Bring it ashore and dump it when retrieving anchor?
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Post by El Toro on Nov 23, 2023 10:55:20 GMT 12
They are currently diving in and around Fitzroy including Smokehouse and clearing it away, meaning its already there and established.
GB plus other areas will be off limits imho, and it will just be the start
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Post by fish on Nov 23, 2023 11:30:43 GMT 12
Bring it ashore and dump it when retrieving anchor? I'm not dumping my anchor ashore. I'll need it at the next spot. They say to throw the caulerpa back if you find it on your anchor. But I think the academics are worried the anchor cuts fragments off underwater and it floats around causing wider spread. Much the same as wave action and stingrays swimming through it. |
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Post by harrytom on Nov 25, 2023 14:07:58 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Nov 25, 2023 21:05:02 GMT 12
In a statement to Stuff, Biosecurity NZ said biofouling continued to be a major biosecurity threat.
“Our biosecurity rules are in place to protect us against pests such as exotic caulpera which can impact New Zealand's environment, unique marine ecosystems, aquaculture industry, and economy,” Biosecurity New Zealand’s northern regional commissioner Mike Inglis said in the statement.
“We know that almost 90% of the exotic marine species already in New Zealand likely arrived here as marine growth on the submerged surfaces of international vessels.
WHHHAAAATTT??? You said it was recreational boats bringing caulerpa in on their anchors. Now you fess up to what we all knew anyway, and confirm it is the dirty cruise ships and international shipping?!? Shame you blamed us and alienated one of the key community demographics you needed to keep engaged.
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Post by DuckMaster on Nov 26, 2023 8:54:43 GMT 12
In a statement to Stuff, Biosecurity NZ said biofouling continued to be a major biosecurity threat. “Our biosecurity rules are in place to protect us against pests such as exotic caulpera which can impact New Zealand's environment, unique marine ecosystems, aquaculture industry, and economy,” Biosecurity New Zealand’s northern regional commissioner Mike Inglis said in the statement. “We know that almost 90% of the exotic marine species already in New Zealand likely arrived here as marine growth on the submerged surfaces of international vessels.WHHHAAAATTT??? You said it was recreational boats bringing caulerpa in on their anchors. Now you fess up to what we all knew anyway, and confirm it is the dirty cruise ships and international shipping?!? Shame you blamed us and alienated one of the key community demographics you needed to keep engaged. Keep your panties on fish you're failing at comprehension again... "international vessels" doesn't mean just cruise ships or international shipping vessels. It means any vessel coming in from international waters. So yeah that still includes yachties... |
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