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Post by GO30 on Nov 13, 2022 11:23:38 GMT 12
I got to have a suss of a known locals new arrival last week, a Pogo 36.
I first saw the table in the cockpit and thought 'Thats gotta go'.... then a few seconds later the thought 'Shite she has a wickly wide arse, I'd hate to fall accross that cockpit', it was about that moment the table looked suddenly like a great idea, somehting to grab mid flight 
She's a wicked machine with some really cools bits n bobs including a few design features I though were smart. I like the way the cabin top kicks in so you have a forward view when inside but not that much it takes anything from the inside.
Smart move is she is also a swing keel so draws maybe 900-1000mm, possibly less as I'm guessing from eyeball not a tape, so will be handy up the bays and harbours of her new cruising grounds.
Now we wait to she how she performs, I expect anything short of hard on she will be fast and spark up quick. In doubt she'll be like some new imported so called 'performance models' that then get their arses handed to them by decades old kiwi designs.
She is silver/grey so she does look like those photos even though they aren't her.
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Pogo 36
Nov 13, 2022 13:01:40 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Nov 13, 2022 13:01:40 GMT 12
I'm sure it would be very very grin inducing off the wind. Not sure about those cabin windows though..
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Pogo 36
Nov 14, 2022 9:34:05 GMT 12
Post by em on Nov 14, 2022 9:34:05 GMT 12
I'm sure it would be very very grin inducing off the wind. Not sure about those cabin windows though.. Yeah those forward facing windows are odd . But I bet they are very handy when you are down below with boat on AP and you want to keep a visual lookout |
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Pogo 36
Nov 14, 2022 17:15:59 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Nov 14, 2022 17:15:59 GMT 12
I'm sure it would be very very grin inducing off the wind. Not sure about those cabin windows though.. Yeah those forward facing windows are odd . But I bet they are very handy when you are down below with boat on AP and you want to keep a visual lookout Function before form which is how it should be I guess. It may look better in the flesh too |
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Pogo 36
Nov 17, 2022 16:30:42 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 16:30:42 GMT 12
Swing keel?... No thanks.., nothing but drama!
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Post by em on Nov 17, 2022 21:15:19 GMT 12
They are well proven in these boats though over many offshore miles well above your average speed too . You don’t get people queuing out the door for 5 years if your swing keels don’t work
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Pogo 36
Nov 19, 2022 9:13:49 GMT 12
Post by fish on Nov 19, 2022 9:13:49 GMT 12
They are well proven in these boats though over many offshore miles well above your average speed too . You don’t get people queuing out the door for 5 years if your swing keels don’t work I would very much like a swing keel. Ideal for getting over the Weiti bar (shallow draft) and numerous other bays and creeks. Deep draft for good sailing performance. And a fail safe when you do some percussion hydrography. i.e. no risk of ripping the keel off or wrenching all the frames etc when you sail into that fast moving and out of position rock. Keel just swings up. Would have saved me loads of work on the hardstand if I had a swing keel, damn fast moving rocks jumping infront of me... What could possible be the problem with all that? Note, we aren't talking canting keels, but a keel that swings fore and aft, swinging up aft, and hangs directly down in the sailing position. I have always admired the Pogo's, and the Similar but different plywood construction RM's. Same logic as a Spencer (light, stiff hull) but completely different application. For short handed sailing, of which those crazy French are the world leaders, those forward facing cabin windows are gold. Even at anchorage, you can increase your field of view forward by 90 to 130 degrees. Combining being able to look aft out of the main hatch, with those windows you get close to 360 deg vision from the saloon. No need for an expensive deck saloon when you can get a sub 40 fter that is faster and have the same 'deck saloon' benefits. |
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Post by em on Nov 19, 2022 9:27:20 GMT 12
If you like French boats check this guy out , totally off the wall boats in plywood , weirdest cabin tops on the sexiest looking hulls . www.facebook.com/archireard/Saw one of his boats at Russell(the below pic) wharf the morning after the coastal , really bloody impressive and a lot bigger than it looks Attachments:
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Pogo 36
Nov 19, 2022 13:11:39 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Nov 19, 2022 13:11:39 GMT 12
Yes I love French designs - they’re always interesting.
The cabin on this one would make you cry a bit though.
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Pogo 36
Nov 19, 2022 14:57:34 GMT 12
Post by fish on Nov 19, 2022 14:57:34 GMT 12
Yes I love French designs - they’re always interesting. The cabin on this one would make you cry a bit though. Function over form... Looks like a 1900's pilot boat cabin plonked on a modern powerful racer. Has a lot of good practical elements to it, but I don't think it will win any aesthetic awards. |
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Nov 21, 2022 7:15:23 GMT 12
Post by em on Nov 21, 2022 7:15:23 GMT 12
Yes I love French designs - they’re always interesting. The cabin on this one would make you cry a bit though. Function over form... Looks like a 1900's pilot boat cabin plonked on a modern powerful racer. Has a lot of good practical elements to it, but I don't think it will win any aesthetic awards. I was actually very surprised when I saw it in the flesh . It has that same sorta look to a chopped down hotrod and a paint job to suit , I would rather have a pogo 40 though . What really gets me going about this boat though is the modern powerful hull form and the backyard plywood construction . Attachments:
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Nov 21, 2022 7:49:25 GMT 12
Post by armchairadmiral on Nov 21, 2022 7:49:25 GMT 12
Interesting ... just a fashion change. Remember when Bruce Farr's 1104 Prospect of Ponsonby came out and the howls of outrage over the cabin profile from the establishment. It's performance soon pulled every naysayer into line
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Post by fish on Nov 21, 2022 9:53:54 GMT 12
I think the cabin top has a lot of merit.
Keeps the deck free of encumbrances' in the form of silly curves and hard to walk on angled cabin tops. This gives more usable space for dinghy stowage or sail handling and storage. i.e. you can drag headsails around, even flake them properly on deck, and strap spare sail bags to the deck / lifelines.
The cabin top itself has more useful area, both for storing stuff on or solar panels, and is ergonomically easier to step up onto etc.
It has to be easier from a construction point of view. No compound curves. And no bespoke polycarbonate windows to manufacture and fit. With standard opening hatches I suspect the saloon will have good airflow at anchor. What is not to like? It wont have the pilot house style sun-drenched saloon. But is this a racer or a cruiser?
What else do we know about this boat? NZ built? Where is it kept and what is its intended use? Length, beam, displacement? Love to know the build cost...
I love the concept of well spec'ed backyard built boats, like back in the hayday of the 70's etc. Not having to rely on the mass produced european brands coming up with something that suits what you really want.
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Post by em on Nov 21, 2022 12:28:22 GMT 12
It was built in BOI somewhere judging by the back blocks of bush in the background . I had a quick chat to the owner as i was doing circuits waiting for him to leave the dock he had a heavy French accent and I’m deaf as feck . All I really ascertained was that it is indeed a David Reard design and he is super proud of it .
If you take the time the scroll a long way down the FB link above you will see many different Reard designs in various stages of construction and lots of interiors . One boat even had the cabin completly finished with cabinetry and all off the boat then installed as a module when finished .
He’s a really wack designer but damn his hulls are pleasing to the eye
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