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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 17, 2023 8:44:17 GMT 12
emission regulations for boat engines >130kW/175hp, appear to be copied from USA (mirrors the rules there) powerboatmagazine.co.nz/changes-to-engine-rules/obviously affects big fizz boats and launches (and very large yachts). Just how this will be enforced is any body's guess |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 11:59:34 GMT 12
Wont be enforced unless they bring in a marine (Boat inspection to a certain safety category)WOF
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Post by muzled on Jan 17, 2023 13:31:49 GMT 12
emission regulations for boat engines >130kW/175hp, appear to be copied from USA (mirrors the rules there) powerboatmagazine.co.nz/changes-to-engine-rules/obviously affects big fizz boats and launches (and very large yachts). Just how this will be enforced is any body's guess Jeesus CZ, I made the foolish move of clicking into the powerboat review section of that website! Apparently the definition of 'Expedition' has changed... Look at that thing!  powerboatmagazine.co.nz/absolute-navetta-58/
ABSOLUTE NAVETTA 58
Text by boattest.com – Capt Steve
ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE
Recently arrived in New Zealand, the Italian designed and built, Absolute Navetta 58 has the expedition look combined for with all the right credentials for long-range cruising.
The Absolute Navetta 58 is an expedition yacht designed for an owner-operator. Her open layout lends itself well to cruising with the family and her crew quarters add flexibility in the form of accommodations for crew when the captain isn’t the type to want to do their own maintenance or for unexpected guests.
Absolute Yachts designed the Navetta 58 to be a long-range expedition yacht. Her flying bridge is large and has a spacious boat deck with the capacity for a tender. The main decks laid out for the galley to serve the aft cockpit and salon with equal efficiency and below decks she sleeps six.Who writes this shit? |
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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 17, 2023 15:32:23 GMT 12
emission regulations for boat engines >130kW/175hp, appear to be copied from USA (mirrors the rules there) powerboatmagazine.co.nz/changes-to-engine-rules/obviously affects big fizz boats and launches (and very large yachts). Just how this will be enforced is any body's guess Jeesus CZ, I made the foolish move of clicking into the powerboat review section of that website! Apparently the definition of 'Expedition' has changed... Look at that thing! Recently arrived in New Zealand, the Italian designed and built, Absolute Navetta 58 has the expedition look combined for with all the right credentials for long-range cruising.
The Absolute Navetta 58 is an expedition yacht designed for an owner-operator. Her open layout lends itself well to cruising with the family and her crew quarters add flexibility in the form of accommodations for crew when the captain isn’t the type to want to do their own maintenance or for unexpected guests.
Absolute Yachts designed the Navetta 58 to be a long-range expedition yacht. Her flying bridge is large and has a spacious boat deck with the capacity for a tender. The main decks laid out for the galley to serve the aft cockpit and salon with equal efficiency and below decks she sleeps six.Who writes this shit? I have seen one of those in the flesh (or is that the hull?), got to be one of the ugliest boats I have ever set eyes on |
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Post by Fogg on Jan 17, 2023 17:37:34 GMT 12
Yeah for me the aesthetic / form of my boats have always been as important as function.
I agree the Navetta (and other similar designs) is a shocker. I simply can’t imagine how the designers stood back from their work and said “Isnt that great?”. Furthermore I can’t imagine the Marketing team also saying “Yup, that’s a beauty, we’ll have no problem selling those.”
And finally, I can’t imagine any sane buyer parting with several million dollars feeling happy with their ‘beautiful’ new boat.
Eyes and beholders and all that…
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Post by chariot on Jan 18, 2023 9:07:22 GMT 12
One more vote for the fugly boat prize
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 7:44:18 GMT 12
Hipkins has made a call halt to the biofuel mandate
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 9, 2023 8:56:50 GMT 12
Hipkins has made a call halt to the biofuel mandate great, means our small outboard and petrol powered gardening equipment will not made u/s that being said even now I have trouble with the tiny carb jets on my 2.5 hp Suzuki 4 stroke getting blocked |
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Post by Fogg on Feb 9, 2023 9:38:11 GMT 12
If you’re talking about outboards - update since I bought my ePropulsion about 18 months ago - we absolutely love it and have only used the Yammy 15 once - purely to give it a run rather than because we needed it.
I’ll never go back to a small petrol outboard. Even some of my petrolhead boaty friends admit they’ve been quietly admiring it and considering a switchover.
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 9, 2023 10:16:16 GMT 12
If you’re talking about outboards - update since I bought my ePropulsion about 18 months ago - we absolutely love it and have only used the Yammy 15 once - purely to give it a run rather than because we needed it. I’ll never go back to a small petrol outboard. Even some of my petrolhead boaty friends admit they’ve been quietly admiring it and considering a switchover. Recharging the battery is the problem for those of us who do not have a generator and are away for extended periods. Otherwise I would consider one to replace the current 2.5hp. Still want the 9.9hp when doing longer distances in the islands. |
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Post by Fogg on Feb 9, 2023 10:20:01 GMT 12
Mine has 3 charging options:
1. 220v (obviously works for shorepower / Genset / inverter setups)
2. 12v (plugs into cigarette lighter)
3. Solar panel (Can lay flat in the bottom of the dinghy)
A full charge typically last me 3-4 days of typical use eg several runs around the anchorage to the beach, other boats, fishing etc. Obviously how you use it dictates endurance but at medium speeds endurance is around 3-4hrs which is a lot of dinghy time.
Recharging takes a few hours - would easily recharge overnight on the 12v.
Power / dinghy speed is approx equivalent to a 3hp.
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Post by fish on Feb 9, 2023 10:51:27 GMT 12
I would love an EV outboard, mainly for the stealth fishing mode. But the price is a complete show stopper for me. Esp when compared to the cost of the classic 2 Hp Yamahama (which I already have).
I am getting less comfortable with the 2 stroke oil in the sea thing, but again, the cost to change is a major.
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Post by Fogg on Feb 9, 2023 11:24:25 GMT 12
If I recall cost was about $3.5k so yes not cheap. And a long time payback in terms of cost of fuel & oil and servicing. But if you expect to continue boating for years to come then probably worth it.
The main motivator for me was easy & safe usage by the family - meaning my (then) 7yr old could go off on his own without me worrying about him getting into trouble or not being able to re-start a stopped engine. A simple twist grip throttle (one way for fwd, other way for reverse).
Wife loves it for fishing too.
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Post by Fogg on Feb 9, 2023 11:26:53 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 9, 2023 12:29:29 GMT 12
Mine has 3 charging options: 1. 220v (obviously works for shorepower / Genset / inverter setups) 2. 12v (plugs into cigarette lighter) 3. Solar panel (Can lay flat in the bottom of the dinghy) A full charge typically last me 3-4 days of typical use eg several runs around the anchorage to the beach, other boats, fishing etc. Obviously how you use it dictates endurance but at medium speeds endurance is around 3-4hrs which is a lot of dinghy time. Recharging takes a few hours - would easily recharge overnight on the 12v. Power / dinghy speed is approx equivalent to a 3hp. I assume yours is an E Propulsion , which comes with a 1276 Whr battery. Very crudely to recharge that battery from flat at 12V requires 100 Amp hrs, which is quite a serious draw on top of other house loads. You would either want to have some major solar or have the engine running with a decent size alternator. I would be interested to see the data plate on the 230V charger to see what the input/output numbers are. Edit -Ok, found the specs for the 12V charger, that will be very slow to charge a well discharged battery 70 watts DC / DC charger, allowing the Spirit 1.0 Plus Battery to be charged from a 10 V ~ 30 V power source. Input power: 70 WInput voltage (DC): 10 – 30 VMax input current: 7 A (ie similar to a 12V freezer running continuously) Charge voltage: 30 V ~ 52.2 VConstant current output: 1 AConversion rate: > 88%Dimensions: 116 × 52 × 33.8 mm / 4.6 × 2 × 1.3 inchand on the 230V side Max output power: 180WMax output voltage (DC): 52.2V
Output current: 3.5A
Input voltage (AC): 100V ~ 264V
Max input current: 2A@220V
which on an inverter would equate to a continuous current draw of about 35 amps |
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