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Post by fish on Sept 25, 2023 9:54:18 GMT 12
So the register has been going for a few months now. Being a law abiding citizen, not that you have any choice, the new CHP was registered in the shop before I could walk out with it. Since then I have received multiple emails and a few phone calls to register it again, apparently you need to register it a few times. The emails contain treats. The phone calls have ranged from WTF thru to bizarre. They, single name no ones on the phone, would say nothing, not even answer this question 'Can you see the Registry?' as answering that will apparently breach someone's privacy. I got asked 5 questions to 'validate me', name, address, ph, email and license number. "Sorry you got 4 of the 5 wrong", "Nope I got 5 out of 5, you just have crap data on file. How do we fix that?", crickets........ apparently it's in the register so it is correct, I am the one who doesn't know his own birthday or where he lives. As a FYI, the address is a trap. The address they want is where the safe is according to their records. As much as I have said 'I don't give a fuck about the privacy angle, lets do this right here right now' nope that is beyond all 500 of the staff in the place. I've told them what it is when and when purchased, down to the minute but nope, that's not acceptable to do it over the phone as I maybe Boris the Russian or who the fuck knows. Why I'd be trying to confirm buying a piss arse .22 if I'm not me is beyond the Firearms Registery's vast number of staffs ability to even try to answer. So as it's not working I'm now receiving coded security locked PDF's. No idea what's in them but it'll be more threats. Try the register again this morning and Nope it still won't let me in to register the CHP again. This is a classic example of knee jerk created waste, it needs to stop and stop fast. In the meantime I'm expecting a visit from the men in Black or maybe the gang in blue. If Hone from the Might Mongrels can't read or write (or is smashed off his chops on the latest white powder), do you think he would be able to get 5 out of 5 in the quiz to register his gun? Or even answer the phone? |
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Post by GO30 on Sept 26, 2023 13:15:21 GMT 12
OK so I think I've figured out where the problem lays, wokisum has fucked the register
I sent them a email and got a response.
The response was one line followed by all of this -
They are more concerned with pronouns than getting the fucking system working.
The response basically said I have 2 options, one is 'Do what you've already done 5 times and didn't work' or 'Do the other thing you've already done 4 times and we refused to allow you to do it'.
Unbelievable so I've now given up. But we all know their uselessness and inability to get things working will become my problem again sooner or later.
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Post by fish on Sept 26, 2023 14:42:12 GMT 12
OK so I think I've figured out where the problem lays, wokisum has fucked the register
I sent them a email and got a response.
The response was one line followed by all of this -
They are more concerned with pronouns than getting the fucking system working.
The response basically said I have 2 options, one is 'Do what you've already done 5 times and didn't work' or 'Do the other thing you've already done 4 times and we refused to allow you to do it'.
Unbelievable so I've now given up. But we all know their uselessness and inability to get things working will become my problem again sooner or later.
I don't know, the pronouns aren't that bad. With a non-anglo-saxon name, where it is not obviously male or female, it is handy to know if you are talking to a male or female. Dave, Paul, Frank or typically male names, Karen, Mary, Charlotte etc are typically female names. Girish? I wouldn't have a clue, so at least he had the decency to tell you he is male. Or perhaps he's not actually male, but just identifies as male. I don't understand this thing where someone identifies as 'they/them', but it's not my problem. If that makes them happy then good on them. We are a multi-cultural country, and there are many names that either aren't gender specific (Jo, Joe) or are a foreign culture and I wouldn't have a clue what gender the person is. So them stating their pronouns saves me asking, or just guessing and upsetting someone. Provided they aren't using their pronouns to try and get a few extra voting powers, or take control of our fisheries, water or all our other natural resources. If people want to speak te Reo, good on them. It is the issue of additional rights over and above Joe Public that is the problem. I enrolled D1 at College the other day. There were 5 options under gender... |
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Sept 26, 2023 15:26:12 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Sept 26, 2023 15:26:12 GMT 12
The problem here seems to be that the identity, pronoun, gender shit has once again trumped the ability to do the job in the staff selection decision tree.
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Post by fish on Sept 26, 2023 17:03:15 GMT 12
The problem here seems to be that the identity, pronoun, gender shit has once again trumped the ability to do the job in the staff selection decision tree. I think the problem is more that the govt has said a job needs to be done here. It doesn't. And those types of jobs, the ones that don't actually need to be done, and are completely hamstrung in twaddlebollocks, are usually taken by this type of person. It must be the most sole destroying job to try and do. Anyone with any capability and self worth would be in a productive job, doing productive shit and feeling good about getting shit done. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 3, 2023 16:56:24 GMT 12
yeah, you can be sure your data will be secure, right??  |
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Post by GO30 on Oct 10, 2023 11:54:37 GMT 12
Have to love Govt systems....not! Only taken 4 months plus 6 or so phone calls, 15 or so attempted web log in plus a wee battle with RealMe to get my password back, to lodge a 10 digit number into a database that apparently 50% of the Te Waka Ora Fire Arms/Te Waka Ora Pronoun Promotion Agency can't access themselves.
The one take-way for me from all of that is that office are all working to their own paths. There has been zero uniformity in process and procedures. Security has been from so secure the person there reckoned telling me if they can see the database can't be done due to privacy reasons thru to telling me the response they want and asking me what the question is. Bizarre.
Also they need to read multiple fine prints so I just said 'Don't bother reading them just tick the yes or no box you want while I go make a coffee', so I did while mumbling over and over 'Yes or No depending which one you want'. I may have agreed to become the ladies sperm doner for all I know....and to be honest care.
One dude was funny when he asked me for my licence number and I said I don't have it with me as you don't need a fire arms license in the city, all you need is a gang patch. He said yeap your right then told me what my license number is, awesome security there people.
I have yet to speak to a licence holder who has found the system works as it is being marketed or been able to log in as they say to do.
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Dec 4, 2023 4:39:01 GMT 12
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Post by harrytom on Dec 4, 2023 4:39:01 GMT 12
Was the gun register not a ACt party initiative? Now Act wants to dis ban the register
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Post by muzled on Dec 4, 2023 6:21:57 GMT 12
Was the gun register not a ACt party initiative? Now Act wants to dis ban the register Don't quote me on this but I don't believe so. It was one of Juicinda's kneejerk reactions to build her brand while not actually achieving anything. ACT's gun spokeperson is Nicole McKee from memory, she has many years as a firearms vetting officer and is a keen hunter and shooter from memory. If the left had talked to her to start with (and listened) they'd most likely have come out with a good set of rules going forward. Here's her blurb on ze act website - Hon Nicole McKee is the Minister for Courts and the Associate Minister of Justice (Firearms). Elected to Parliament as an ACT Party MP in 2020, Nicole is a mother of four, has a background in law, and is passionate about firearms reform. Before politics, she was the coordinator of the nation’s volunteer firearms safety instructors for the Mountain Safety Council and the spokesperson for the Council of Licenced Firearms Owners (COLFO) and its Fair and Reasonable Campaign. |
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Post by Fogg on Dec 4, 2023 7:12:38 GMT 12
I (very) grudgingly acknowledge that behind the scenes J was well briefed on how to prepare for the inevitable day of living post-PM.
In particular, I speculate that Auntie Helen counselled her to be on the lookout for anything she could do in NZ that would position her strongly on the world stage and set her up for post-PM Intl roles.
And I could even imagine someone saying to her “Imagine IF you could repeal gun laws in NZ, imagine how the Septics would worship you for life.”
And then Christchurch happened. And J’s little black book of opportunistic ideas came out and banning guns was top of the list.
“Set up a press-conference and someone give me a head-scarf…”
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 4, 2023 7:21:38 GMT 12
Guns don't kill people bullet do!
Control of bullets and its components would help
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Dec 4, 2023 10:16:48 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Dec 4, 2023 10:16:48 GMT 12
Was the gun register not a ACt party initiative? Now Act wants to dis ban the register Don't quote me on this but I don't believe so. It was one of Juicinda's kneejerk reactions to build her brand while not actually achieving anything. ACT's gun spokeperson is Nicole McKee from memory, she has many years as a firearms vetting officer and is a keen hunter and shooter from memory. If the left had talked to her to start with (and listened) they'd most likely have come out with a good set of rules going forward. Here's her blurb on ze act website - Hon Nicole McKee is the Minister for Courts and the Associate Minister of Justice (Firearms). Elected to Parliament as an ACT Party MP in 2020, Nicole is a mother of four, has a background in law, and is passionate about firearms reform. Before politics, she was the coordinator of the nation’s volunteer firearms safety instructors for the Mountain Safety Council and the spokesperson for the Council of Licenced Firearms Owners (COLFO) and its Fair and Reasonable Campaign.Having an mp and minister who is a hunter, experienced firearms licence vetting and owning type is surely a conflict of interest, need to get some woke leftist animal lover city dweller to come up with some sensible rule. |
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Post by GO30 on Dec 4, 2023 18:08:56 GMT 12
Guns don't kill people bullet do! Control of bullets and its components would help Correct (ish) guns nor their ammo can kill unless they are told too.
Ammo is due to fall into the Register in 2 or 5 years, can't remember which.
I am hearing a few current firearms license holders aren't planning on renewing theirs when they are due. All live in inner city burbs.
But I know of 3 going for their license after owning and shooting for years, 40 in one mates case.
A lot of that does seem to have been stirred up by the register and talk.
So in a way even though it is a shambles and has made a LOT of firearms owners into criminals as we now have to take further steps to protect our weapons and families from the inevitable Register leaks/hacks (been at least one already) it has make people think 'Do I really want the fucking around it now takes to keep that old 22/shotgun in the back of the wardrobe?', many are saying Nope so bailing out entirely. That's not a bad thing as it is often those long forgotten weapons that go missing during the B&E's, many of a which are carried out by gangs or prospects which means that forgotten weapon is now in dangerous hands.
To those who noticed a 'we' above, yes I am now officially a criminal as I have taken extra security precautions to protect my weapons against them falling into the wrong hands. Again the Law of Unintended Consequences kicks in.
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