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Aug 2, 2023 10:40:14 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 2, 2023 10:40:14 GMT 12
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Aug 2, 2023 10:43:12 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 2, 2023 10:43:12 GMT 12
GF already has me onto this big time. Yet WHO/WEF/Gates etc want to take us further down the UPF road!!
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Aug 8, 2023 10:06:28 GMT 12
Post by eri on Aug 8, 2023 10:06:28 GMT 12
on very limited bandwidth here
ulta fine particles?
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Aug 8, 2023 11:52:27 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 8, 2023 11:52:27 GMT 12
Ultra processed food - which is killing us slowly.
In summary, the science shows that we should not even be calling them “foods” but instead their proper description of “man-made edible substances.”
Our bodies can tell we are not consuming real food and the affect is immediate and measurable and life-threatening.
And no it’s not about doing more exercise - that has virtually zero impact on weight - it’s all about what we put in our mouths.
We should be teaching this to our kids in schools instead of one-sided versions of history.
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Aug 8, 2023 15:39:26 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 8, 2023 15:39:26 GMT 12
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Aug 11, 2023 20:48:19 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Aug 11, 2023 20:48:19 GMT 12
We've had a hatched, dispatched and Matched month so a few bevvies have been going down not to mention a shed load of tasty catering etc. Someone during a beverage session, D1 I think, said she was going to lose some weight, boyfriend said he wanted to as well, the Wa was in so it got a bit 'I'll do better than you etc'. As the trek through Central America was waistline nasty plus the rest lately I though 10kg less of me is 10kg more of fuel in the wings, OK I'm in as well. First to drop, in my case 13kg, wins.
So I'm running the 8/16 hour fasting thing. 8 hour window to eat in then nothing for 16. In my window I'm trying to eat clean i.e minimal modification. So I'm learning what the labels say around nutrition and so on.
HOLY FUCK is there some crap in our foods so I know exactly where Fogg is coming from. I've always tend to prefer fresh anyway so it's not a huge change in diet but a huge change in when I'm eating. Also now learning about our foods it's fecking scary what shit we can buy in our foods and how processed many are, it's really not good and has to be fucking us up.
As a FYI, I told the competition on yesterdays weigh in if I win I plan to become totally insufferable and make reformed smokers look tame so they better pull finger. I started at 13.8 2 weeks ago down to 7.1 yesterday, so pretty happy and winning.
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Aug 15, 2023 13:58:14 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 15, 2023 13:58:14 GMT 12
from VFF's Reality Check Radio, worth subscribing to All non-organic bread flour now fortified with folic acidIn another assault on your right to choose what goes in your body, the government has mandated that folic acid is to be added to all non-organic bread-making wheat flour, starting today. The move was announced back in July 2021 and now comes into force, following the medical mandates for Covid-19 jabs and water fluoridation.
The decision to ‘enrich’ bread flour with folic acid is ostensibly to reduce the occurrence of neural tube defects like spina bifida, which officials say impacts about 64 pregnancies a year in New Zealand, thereby imposing significant costs on the healthcare system. The rationale goes, that to avoid this, the government will now give the synthetic supplement to all five million of us.
Folate, or vitamin B9 is found in dark leafy greens, fresh fruits, eggs, beans and liver. Associate Professor Lynne Chepulis at the University of Waikato said, “Folate and folic acid are not the same thing. Folate is the naturally occurring vitamin and the way it occurs in food. Folic acid is ‘man made’. After ingestion it needs to be converted to folate in the liver or other tissues.”
While high levels of folic acid intake could be harmful and may be associated with some cancers, the levels needed to be high, she said. “Well beyond the levels achieved by fortifying bread. The benefits well and truly outweigh any risk – particularly for Maori, Pacific and low socioeconomic status communities.”
However, not all experts agree. Paul Brennan spoke to American doctor Ben Lynch on the breakfast show in June about the government’s decision. Lynch said regardless of whether birth defects were high or not, he urged people to avoid folic acid.
“It was created in the 80s because industrialised food production strips out the natural folate that is found in our grains and in our food.” Leaving the wheat whole would have ensured the folate was not stripped away. But instead synthetic folic acid was created in a lab.
Lynch said the research done to see if it was safe was done on mice, which can process folic acid to a natural form of folate more easily. The process is about 800 times slower in humans to be able to process it into a usable form. Humans need natural folates to support neurotransmitters to think clearly, to keep calm when stressed out, and to support the cardiovascular system. When people take synthetic folic acid these things can be compromised.
Lynch said giving folic acid to everyone was like giving prozac to everyone because people were a little bit stressed out. Listen to the full interview to get more details on the pros and considerable cons here.
Organic bread, anyone? Read more at Stuff. www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300352263/government-to-mandate-folic-acid-in-most-breadmaking-flour-to-protect-babies
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Aug 15, 2023 16:44:30 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 15, 2023 16:44:30 GMT 12
I tried IM (intermittent fasting) whereby I ate my first meal as a late lunch and then dinner and that’s it. In other words about 18:6.
I found my lunchtime hunger gradually diminished and if I was busy I would forget to eat lunch at all. In other words I was firmly in ketosis and running on fat not sugar. And not hungry at all. Even at dinner time I only feel hungry through a combination of the clock telling me it’s eating time plus the smell of a meal (I cook dinner 6 days / week).
As a result I gave up lunch and drifted into OMAD (one meal a day). Only thing, I lose too much weight if I literally only eat dinner so I have to force myself to eat a 3-4pm snack (usually some fruit, nuts and some of the raw veg I’m prepping for dinner eg carrots or broccoli with humus).
And 90% of that we eat is homemade with a war on UPFs.
Whenever I hear contradictory advice I revert to “How did we live a few hundred years ago before the arrival of easy, civilised, processed lifestyles that our bodies haven’t adapted to yet?”
And this told me we are well adapted to eating far more sparingly and probably lucky to get one good meal a day if the family / tribe’s hunting & gathering went well that day.
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Aug 15, 2023 16:54:18 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 15, 2023 16:54:18 GMT 12
Oh and yes, if any of you listened to the podcast I linked above you would have heard the revelation that exercise does not help you lose weight. Because exercise does not make you burn any more energy. Yes you read that right - if you go for a walk / run / cycle / swim / gym and your calculations / fitness app tells you that you “Burned 500 calories” that does NOT mean you have increased your 24hrs calorie burn from 2000 to 2,500 (if you’re a woman) or 2,500 to 3,000 (if you’re a man).
Because the 500 calories used for your exercise was diverted from somewhere else it wasn’t needed (like inflammation or reproduction or fighting infection). This is why when you’re ill you don’t feel like exercise because your body needs to focus on repairs.
The only exception to this is if you are doing ridiculous amounts of exercise including many hours a day of strenuous activity like mountaineering or running marathons or swimming ultra distances.
The concept of “Exercise makes you consume more energy” is a myth started by Coca Cola and perpetuated by the food & drink industry to promote the sale of energy drinks.
In this respect, the food industry is a bad as Big Tobacco and Big Pharma ie not to be trusted at all.
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Aug 15, 2023 18:00:32 GMT 12
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Aug 15, 2023 18:37:57 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 15, 2023 18:37:57 GMT 12
This is scary - but belongs in a different thread about censorship that deserves its own focus - can you start one?
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Aug 15, 2023 19:32:46 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 15, 2023 19:32:46 GMT 12
In this respect, the food industry is a bad as Big Tobacco and Big Pharma ie not to be trusted at all. and speaking of Big Pharma, if they get their way they have not finished with us by a long shot www.garymoller.com/post/the-impact-of-therapeutic-products-legislation-on-new-zealand-s-ge-free-dreamexcerpt Huge Threat to Traditional Farming Note how ACT and National slip in references to the environment, inferring that GE is going to save us all from the unfounded terror of global boiling. Using expressions like "global boiling" is alarmist hype, intended to frighten the masses into meekly accepting dangerous and unpalatable food production technologies, and all kinds of restrictions on their freedoms such as the WEF's15 minute cities - a Trojan Horse for control. So, farmers, if the globalists have their way, you'll be injecting every sheep and lamb with their mRNA drugs, along with a microchip to track each animal, and you'll be fined or unable to sell your produce if you don't inject them — that's the future of farming for you, or you'll be forced into a firesale and your land hoovered up by the globalists who made billions from the pandemic. Or, you may survive by farming insects on small plots, and the hill-sides will be carpeted with commercial pine forests to produce all of the toilet paper needed to meet the demand caused by widespread diarrhoea from living on a diet of cricket flour and GE soy.There really seems to be a plan to make us completely dependent upon the Big Corporations and to hell with the effects on your health. I remember in decades long gone the government promoting healthier living on exercise and diet, eg who remembers the 5 a day 2 fruit 3 veg campaign. I think in the near future there might need to be a few sheep grazing my property eventually destined for the freezer (and some to swap with GO30 for a part of one of his beasts) along with upping the ante big time on the vege garden - the latter not currently integrating very well with summer cruising
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Aug 16, 2023 12:53:11 GMT 12
Post by em on Aug 16, 2023 12:53:11 GMT 12
Do you remember chesdale cheese wedges in the 70s/80s ? UPFs have been around for a bloody long time
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Aug 16, 2023 13:15:04 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 16, 2023 13:15:04 GMT 12
Yes they have. UPFs we’re ‘born’ by the food industry answering a need to more cheap convenience foods as post-war families changed their lifestyles and technology meant previously house-bound wife’s were liberated to go out and work - meaning families needed quick & easy meals each night. Ideally to throw into that newfangled device the Devil’s Tumble-dryer aka microwave.
And the food industry worked out they could create pretty much any taste, texture and shape by breaking down and reconstituting the cheapest waste off-cuts from 4 proteins (chicken, beef, lamb & pork) and plants (wheat, soy, corn and rice). And re-combining them with a bunch of binding agents, colourings, flavourings, stabilisers and preservatives. With nice shiny labels to disguise the alarming ingredients list.
And hey presto the first man-made edible substances were born and heavily marketed as easy, cheap & healthy family foods.
The fact that the these substances were allowed to be called ‘food’ is one of the greatest marketing scams of all times. And the food industry continues to perpetuate this myth. They could teach Big Tobacco a trick or two.
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Aug 17, 2023 11:34:53 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Aug 17, 2023 11:34:53 GMT 12
Being more aware these days I find myself expressing WTF?'s a lot more with what I see in the food.
The quirky thing is the foods being sold as planet savers are horrendously ultra processed. I was reading some stuff around that 'Beyond Beef' and etc, fuck me even a pile of Witches on meth around a oversize caldron couldn't use such a scary list of ingredients. Also to make many of these fake meats they start with embryonic cells of the animal they are trying to copy. Vegans eating it thinking they are being good vegans must be gutted when they find out what it is they are actually rating.
I'm quite surprised how my whole outlook on food has changed so much in 3 weeks. I've always been more a fresh then processed lad but lately I seemed to have developed a wee phobia around foods with ingredients lists more than a few items long. I'm not sure if that is good or bad but running with good at the moment.
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