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Aug 17, 2023 19:21:40 GMT 12
Post by fish on Aug 17, 2023 19:21:40 GMT 12
We've always gone with four ingredients. If its more than four its processed.
Chips are a fascinating one. The posh ones (like proper Crisps) have potatos, oil, salt (3 ingredients). The cheap ones can even have gluten in them. Many have MSG. It's beyound me how you get gluten into a potato product. Due to increasing interest rates we had to wind back the spec of chips we get. Boy (8) starting acting up and generally behaving badly. Turns out the cheaper chips I was getting had MSG in them. Changed chip brands again and boy's behavior improved...
PS, good food is not cheap. Homemade food is cheap and good, but takes time. It's that old time cost quality triangle...
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Aug 27, 2023 9:46:11 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Aug 27, 2023 9:46:11 GMT 12
The Wa scored a copy of Jamie Olivers cookbook called 5. All meal done with 5 ingredients (plus salt, pepper and things like that from the pantry). I was a little sceptical but some are bloody good and definite keepers. Being only 5 ingredients they are easy to shop and cook, most are fast cook but a few are slower.
Up here in rural we eat a lot cleaner as the closest take away is 70km round trip, the local General Store* a gentle 40km. I think I like it over city eating generally speaking. I'm mastering the art of the Weber snake technique and that's generating some spectacular feeds. Chuck it on late morning, come evening melt on the mouth.... shit now I'm hungry but 3hrs until feeding window opens. Doing OK now I'm into the pattern and down nearly 9kg in nearly a month, that's an 12.5lts of extra fuel in the wings now so range has extended about 30 minutes, nice.
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Aug 28, 2023 8:13:16 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 28, 2023 8:13:16 GMT 12
Which of course is part of the secret behind the world’s “Blue Zones” ie eating with a small number of natural, fresh and in-season ingredients and taking the time to sit down, relax and enjoy it with family & friends. Oh and don’t forget the glass of red wine 😊
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Aug 28, 2023 8:17:15 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 28, 2023 8:17:15 GMT 12
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Aug 28, 2023 8:32:42 GMT 12
Post by em on Aug 28, 2023 8:32:42 GMT 12
Which of course is part of the secret behind the world’s “Blue Zones” ie eating with a small number of natural, fresh and in-season ingredients and taking the time to sit down, relax and enjoy it with family & friends. Oh and don’t forget the glass of red wine 😊 Have had to quit red wine . The stuff that doesn’t wake me up in the middle of the night with sweats and heart palpitations is just too expensive to drink regularly
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Aug 28, 2023 9:54:28 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Aug 28, 2023 9:54:28 GMT 12
Have had to quit red wine . The stuff that doesn’t wake me up in the middle of the night with sweats and heart palpitations is just too expensive to drink regularly Sounds like a quality drop...NOT!!! Have you sussed it in daylight, are you sure it's red and not a more purple colour
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Aug 28, 2023 12:50:53 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 28, 2023 12:50:53 GMT 12
Which of course is part of the secret behind the world’s “Blue Zones” ie eating with a small number of natural, fresh and in-season ingredients and taking the time to sit down, relax and enjoy it with family & friends. Oh and don’t forget the glass of red wine 😊 Have had to quit red wine . The stuff that doesn’t wake me up in the middle of the night with sweats and heart palpitations is just too expensive to drink regularly I can’t drink Aussie or NZ reds. Apparently they use something in the barrel cleaning process that they don’t in Europe. Aussie refs give me nasty headaches (think Stella). Whereas Euro reds all good. And that’s what they drink in the Blue Zones… 😊
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Aug 30, 2023 7:58:11 GMT 12
Post by Fogg on Aug 30, 2023 7:58:11 GMT 12
Really useful article and easy tips. Happy to realise we already follow all of the examples in this pic (I only recently discovered how easy it is to make your own baked beans. The kids love them too). The only exception is breakfast cereal - we know it’s evil sugary stuff so we give the kids porridge with blueberries or bananas 5-6 days a week but we keep a packed on corn flakes in the cupboard so they can help themselves when their parents are having a a lazy Sunday lie-in (or crazy sunrise swim) 😊 Ultra-processed food swaps: What you should be eating instead: mol.im/a/12456213
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Aug 30, 2023 19:51:01 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Aug 30, 2023 19:51:01 GMT 12
Breakfast cereal wasn't a thing until someone/s wanted a use for some corn/wheat by-products. Boom, cereal was marketed hard and here we are today. My breakfast is heavily bean based, the coffee variety It's way easier with kids who fully understand 'bugger off and sort ya self out'. BOOM yet again, 2kg of bacon, 1/2 loaf of bread, a dozen hash browns and a can of beans later......
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Aug 31, 2023 11:35:57 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 31, 2023 11:35:57 GMT 12
Breakfast cereal wasn't a thing until someone/s wanted a use for some corn/wheat by-products. Boom, cereal was marketed hard and here we are today... Yes I’m fact the majority of UPFs are based on 4 meat & 4 plant products: - Chicken / lamb / beef / pork - Wheat / rice / soy / corn The food industry worked out that if you break down these 8 base ingredients into refined forms eg dried powders, you can then recombine them in different ways to create virtually any taste, texture, shape and colour. Of course that requires lots of binding agents, stabilisers and preservatives to give the final product a good shelf life. Plus various enhancers to achieve the desired colour & flavour and texture. The result is a man-made, industrially produced edible substance. Marketed as ‘food’ or ‘pet food’ (depending which shelf it’s meant for). Even supermarket bread is a UPF. Which is why I now make my own - one big homemade loaf lasts the family a week.
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Aug 31, 2023 12:49:35 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 31, 2023 12:49:35 GMT 12
Today’s good news:
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Aug 31, 2023 14:25:42 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 31, 2023 14:25:42 GMT 12
Breakfast cereal wasn't a thing until someone/s wanted a use for some corn/wheat by-products. Boom, cereal was marketed hard and here we are today... Even supermarket bread is a UPF. Which is why I now make my own - one big homemade loaf lasts the family a week. Hope you are using organic flour without the damned Folic Acid they are now mandating be added to regular breadmaking flour
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Aug 31, 2023 15:35:37 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 31, 2023 15:35:37 GMT 12
I’m less agitated about that. We are eating far worse chemicals & combinations than folic acid in its natural form (aka Vit B9).
In the US they reckon it prevents about 1,000 brain defects in newborn babies.
And we know NZ soil is weird and missing several crucial minerals for human health that are present in other countries eg Selenium to name one. So I could believe folic acid might be lacking in our diets too because just eating normal healthy amounts of fruit & veg might not deliver it.
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Aug 31, 2023 16:50:26 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Aug 31, 2023 16:50:26 GMT 12
I’m less agitated about that. We are eating far worse chemicals & combinations than folic acid in its natural form (aka Vit B9). In the US they reckon it prevents about 1,000 brain defects in newborn babies. And we know NZ soil is weird and missing several crucial minerals for human health that are present in other countries eg Selenium to name one. So I could believe folic acid might be lacking in our diets too because just eating normal healthy amounts of fruit & veg might not deliver it. problem is what is being added to flour is not natural, its another synthetic chemical composition. Interesting read here breadpolitics.com/2021/07/20/does-new-zealand-need-folic-acid-fortification/noting Given that only 2% of the population are pregnant at any given point in time and only 0.012% of the pregnancies are actually affected by the potential effects of low folate this means that only 2-3 in 1,000,000 people would benefit. Or looking at it the other way 999,997 people have to take a potentially risky synthetic additive in their food, with no apparent benefit to them, so that three people can benefit. Is this justifiable?I do find it somewhat ironic that we see an action like this justified as it might improve the health of a very small number of babies yet on the other hand NZ has one of the most extreme abortion laws allowing a full term baby to be aborted murdered and at the other end of the spectrum we have euthanasia laws that are just about allowing people to be killed for convenience.
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Sept 3, 2023 10:13:12 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Sept 3, 2023 10:13:12 GMT 12
Salad kits, grains and trail mix are processed?
I can see it in the rest though, to assorted degrees. See it especially that plant based meat substitute which has an ingredient list the size of an encyclopedia.
I do find it somewhat ironic that we see an action like this justified as it might improve the health of a very small number of babies yet on the other hand NZ has one of the most extreme abortion laws allowing a full term baby to be aborted murdered and at the other end of the spectrum we have euthanasia laws that are just about allowing people to be killed for convenience. We allow full term? Surely only in very exceptional circumstances I'd hope.
The Euthanasia laws do not allow anyone to kill anyone. The ONE AND ONLY person who can say 'do it' is the person who wants to pull the pin and even then the bar is very high right until the literal very last second. The assorted specialists do look very closely for any sign of coercion and things like that.
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