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Jul 12, 2024 21:34:32 GMT 12
Post by em on Jul 12, 2024 21:34:32 GMT 12
Ag man ! Will you ever make it to Fiji ?
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Jul 18, 2024 17:03:27 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jul 18, 2024 17:03:27 GMT 12
Random weather. A sea fog all day in Auckland, well, at least Whangaparaoa. Was lovely and sunny earlier today, went down to the boat, could see fog south of Whanga, all over the Rangi / Northshore / Rakino areas. Was wafting up the river, very moody. Drive home about 4pm, top of the hill is in the sun, but fog all around the peninsular, thick across the north side as far as I can see (or not see, as the case may be).
I do not recall every having a sea fog in Auckland after midday. Sure we get the odd fog in the mornings, but it normally burns off (i.e. an advection fog). This one is like a proper sea fog.
Anyway, then go to check the forecast, Metservice has issued a heavy rain watch. Had a squeeze at PW and one of the 5 forecasts is showing 100mm in 6 hrs to midnight Friday, with 2 hours of 30mm / hr. That will trigger some PTSD in people who own low-lying houses...
Looks like a crazy low coming out of the north, kind of materializes just off North Cape, very solid rain in it. Most of the models show it heading off just to the east, but a direct hit by that looks like we could have biblical amounts of rain. Very tight low, intense rain, or, couple of miles sideways, nothing.
Fascinating.
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Jul 18, 2024 17:57:54 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jul 18, 2024 17:57:54 GMT 12
And stuffed are running weather bomb headlines already. But to be fair, Weatherwatch said they could: 💣🌀If this occurs the media have permission to use the term "Weather bomb!". Technical name: Bombogenesis - Explosive cyclogenesis: Bombogenesis is a popular term that describes a midlatitude cyclone that rapidly intensifies. GFS shows a rapidly deepening low forecast for Friday/Saturday but hopefully it remains well offshore. The pressure drop is 28hpa in 24 hours!www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350347556/weather-bomb-could-brush-top-nz-bringing-heavy-rain
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Jul 18, 2024 18:21:00 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jul 18, 2024 18:21:00 GMT 12
When? I’m due to land in Auck Sat mid-morning. Better not be disrupted / diverted.
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Jul 18, 2024 19:29:08 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jul 18, 2024 19:29:08 GMT 12
When? I’m due to land in Auck Sat mid-morning. Better not be disrupted / diverted. I'd think you will be ok. Heavy rain warning below, ends 9am Sat, but there is currently only a 20% chance this will actually cross land, far higher chance it will head east and be a non-event. And if it does cross land it will probably only be Northland anyway (surely they are used to biblical floods, slips and all their roads being cut off for months on end now?) Might be a bit bouncy-bouncy on the last hour or two into Auckland though. I am fascinated by people that don't have their seatbelt fastened on planes, even just loosely, so you don't get ejected from your seat if you hit a bit of bouncy bouncy. Assuming you don't get airsick on fossil fuel powered aircraft? Heavy Rain Watch Period: 12hrs from 9pm Fri, 19 Jul - 9am Sat, 20 Jul Area: Northland and Auckland north of Whangaparaoa Peninsula
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Post by Cantab on Jul 18, 2024 20:34:33 GMT 12
If you tick the "purchase carbon offsets" button when you buy your ticket it fixes the weather for you.
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Jul 18, 2024 22:17:34 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jul 18, 2024 22:17:34 GMT 12
If you tick the "purchase carbon offsets" button when you buy your ticket it fixes the weather for you. Yeah I never do that. Carbon is good for the trees.
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Jul 18, 2024 22:22:52 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jul 18, 2024 22:22:52 GMT 12
When? I’m due to land in Auck Sat mid-morning. Better not be disrupted / diverted. I'd think you will be ok. Heavy rain warning below, ends 9am Sat, but there is currently only a 20% chance this will actually cross land, far higher chance it will head east and be a non-event. And if it does cross land it will probably only be Northland anyway (surely they are used to biblical floods, slips and all their roads being cut off for months on end now?) Might be a bit bouncy-bouncy on the last hour or two into Auckland though. I am fascinated by people that don't have their seatbelt fastened on planes, even just loosely, so you don't get ejected from your seat if you hit a bit of bouncy bouncy. Assuming you don't get airsick on fossil fuel powered aircraft? Heavy Rain Watch Period: 12hrs from 9pm Fri, 19 Jul - 9am Sat, 20 Jul Area: Northland and Auckland north of Whangaparaoa Peninsula Mmmmm, will be interesting. Due to land around 9am so right on the edge of it. Not sure what the options are for an A380 to divert anywhere else in NZ with a long enough runway? Possibly Whenuapai? I’ve had that before in the US when weather forced our Air NZ 787 to divert to a small military airfield. Then the fun really started because the runway was long enough for us to land but not to take off again fully laden. So they had to remove all our bags, adjust the fuel and take off again. Our bags got transported by land a looooong time later. Seatbelts. Yes always on all the flight. Strangely i feel most vulnerable having a shower because if turbulence hits halfway through the procedure is to grab your towel and return straight to your seat. Never had to do that and it’s not a pretty image for anyone. 😳
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Jul 19, 2024 10:46:06 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jul 19, 2024 10:46:06 GMT 12
I'd think you will be ok. Heavy rain warning below, ends 9am Sat, but there is currently only a 20% chance this will actually cross land, far higher chance it will head east and be a non-event. And if it does cross land it will probably only be Northland anyway (surely they are used to biblical floods, slips and all their roads being cut off for months on end now?) Might be a bit bouncy-bouncy on the last hour or two into Auckland though. I am fascinated by people that don't have their seatbelt fastened on planes, even just loosely, so you don't get ejected from your seat if you hit a bit of bouncy bouncy. Assuming you don't get airsick on fossil fuel powered aircraft? Heavy Rain Watch Period: 12hrs from 9pm Fri, 19 Jul - 9am Sat, 20 Jul Area: Northland and Auckland north of Whangaparaoa Peninsula Mmmmm, will be interesting. Due to land around 9am so right on the edge of it. Not sure what the options are for an A380 to divert anywhere else in NZ with a long enough runway? Possibly Whenuapai? I’ve had that before in the US when weather forced our Air NZ 787 to divert to a small military airfield. Then the fun really started because the runway was long enough for us to land but not to take off again fully laden. So they had to remove all our bags, adjust the fuel and take off again. Our bags got transported by land a looooong time later. Seatbelts. Yes always on all the flight. Strangely i feel most vulnerable having a shower because if turbulence hits halfway through the procedure is to grab your towel and return straight to your seat. Never had to do that and it’s not a pretty image for anyone. 😳 It is looking like a non-event now, just a bit of rain overnight, steady and moderately heavy but nothing biblical. And I very much doubt even the bad stuff that was forecast would affect an A380. But what is all this nonsense about having a shower on a plane? Planes don't have showers, surely? I know it's been a while since I flew around the world on a regular basis, but that is next level. I was happy to get a drinks trolley, and when flying with Singapore get some lovely heated wet face clothes for a freshen up. Showers on a plane? whatever next? I don't even have a shower on my boat.
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Jul 19, 2024 12:16:33 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Jul 19, 2024 12:16:33 GMT 12
Mmmmm, will be interesting. Due to land around 9am so right on the edge of it. Not sure what the options are for an A380 to divert anywhere else in NZ with a long enough runway? Possibly Whenuapai? In a genuine emergency no other options close and the aircraft is very lite and the pilots have big pairs of ..., a A380 could land at WP. It would be a tad freaky for the passengers as most will never have experience a full noise stop before, they are way more harsh than a usual with lots of WTF noises going on.
But WP is too short to take off from. Probably might just be able to if super light and the pilots have extra big pairs of..... Then I' think it would be carrying zero passengers or cargo and only enough fuel to get to AA. Generally a A380 need a 2900-3000m min length runway, WP is only 2000 and a nats from memory. Auckland is just over 3500 and CH is just over 3200m
If a A380 has to divert from Auckland it'll go to Chch or possibly stop on the east coast of Aussie, flight path dependant, and wait there.
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Jul 19, 2024 12:18:23 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Jul 19, 2024 12:18:23 GMT 12
If you tick the "purchase carbon offsets" button when you buy your ticket it fixes the weather for you. While there they also have some cheap bridges to sell you
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Jul 19, 2024 12:55:57 GMT 12
Post by jim on Jul 19, 2024 12:55:57 GMT 12
Ohakea is on the list if a big plane gets desparate - seldom has fog and 2 1/2 km of runway
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Jul 19, 2024 15:05:40 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jul 19, 2024 15:05:40 GMT 12
Ohakea is on the list if a big plane gets desparate - seldom has fog and 2 1/2 km of runway Where’s that?
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Jul 19, 2024 15:09:41 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jul 19, 2024 15:09:41 GMT 12
Showers on a plane? whatever next? I don't even have a shower on my boat. The Hope you’re right about the non-event for Auck. Last thing I need is diverting to CHCH! Emirates A380s have showers in 1st. I usually have one an hour before landing at Auck - it’s about 16hrs from Dubai - which means I arrive home refreshed and ready to face an energetic young family eager to find out what ‘presents’ I’ve bought home this time…🙄
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Jul 19, 2024 17:03:54 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jul 19, 2024 17:03:54 GMT 12
Ohakea is on the list if a big plane gets desparate - seldom has fog and 2 1/2 km of runway Where’s that? Ohakea is our Airforce base, halfway between Whanganui and Palmerston North. It is the designated 'bail out' airport for commercial airlines. There was a big ho-ha from the airlines as they didn't have 24/7 fire / crash cover, so the airlines going into Auckland had to designate Chch and vice versa, meaning they had to carry extra fuel which meant less load capacity, less money and more carbon burnt, as both are further away than Ohakea. It even went to the Defense Minister. Apparently soo many people are leaving the Defense Force, lost the will to live guarding hotels fill of citizens illegally detained, then asked to stay up all night in the middle of rural Manawatu on the off chance an airliner might divert there AND manage to crash on landing. It is an extraordinarily dull place. About the most exciting thing is they have poisoned ground water, from all the foam they use to practice for crashed airliners, oh, and the new Poisedon fleet is stationed there so the govt spent moonbeams doing everything up. Literally everything. They even upgraded the wastewater network and now pipe it all the way to Palmerston North. Cause treating it onsite and putting it into the river is against the Treaty (serious statement).
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