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Post by GO30 on Jan 15, 2024 19:29:58 GMT 12
This post was made in another thread -
For everyone else that is sick of Duckmaster's toxicity and trolling, to block him: Simply click on his name, go to the cogwheel icon top right and click 'block user'. Will be the best 3 seconds you could spend on this forum. Without wanting to start a shit fight or have the combatants start at it again. The following comments are not person specific, we're all guilty of some at times.
The post troubles me in a few ways -
One, is it simply Cancel Culture at work which if it is then leads to other paths like why the wokie crap or is someone afraid and there are others. The biggest worry if it is 'Where does it stop?'.
Two, Blocking someone is the same as saying they and their opinions mean nothing. That's a tad arrogant don't ya think? What if you have got it backwards and it's really them who are the worthy one not you?
Three, isn't that kiddy like behaviour part of the reason this forum exists? I have had a couple of bods from the old place mention the scraps between a few of us at times. They do tend to only pick on one very small part of the entire thread but that's how 2020's roll. They see a bitch fight, I see adults having a, at the odd time, enthusiastic chat on assorted subjects and just like anytime enthusiasm is involved someone will say something and someone will be quick to disagree with it. But a day later normal broadcasting resumes...just as it does in your real life and in your own household from time to time. From the outside looking in it does appear a tad childish.
Four, What are you missing? You don't know what you don't know but maybe you'd want to know once you knew you didn't know.
Five, It's a online forum. It it pushes your buttons so much then is it time to have a serious think on whether you should be on them?
Six, Have to taken the bait? At times we all do.
Bugger me, back in the big smoke for only a couple of hours and I'm getting grumpy already............ and I don't like ya weather
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Post by harrytom on Jan 15, 2024 19:40:32 GMT 12
At time Duckmaster has some valid points. He may seem to be pushing from one side but The Treaty Granted such rights ,so we need to acknowledge those right even if we disagree with them.
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Post by sabre on Jan 15, 2024 20:00:05 GMT 12
As I said I was reluctant to block DF as I am all for healthy robust debate and hearing other peoples opinion but when it is non stop deliberate and blantant trolling it just becomes very toxic.
If you want to read and engage with that then fill your boots.
If this "troubles" you then I would suggest that it is you that needs to question if online forums are for you.
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Post by fish on Jan 15, 2024 20:06:56 GMT 12
This post was made in another thread -
For everyone else that is sick of Duckmaster's toxicity and trolling, to block him: Simply click on his name, go to the cogwheel icon top right and click 'block user'. Will be the best 3 seconds you could spend on this forum. Without wanting to start a shit fight or have the combatants start at it again. The following comments are not person specific, we're all guilty of some at times.
The post troubles me in a few ways -
One, is it simply Cancel Culture at work which if it is then leads to other paths like why the wokie crap or is someone afraid and there are others. The biggest worry if it is 'Where does it stop?'.
Two, Blocking someone is the same as saying they and their opinions mean nothing. That's a tad arrogant don't ya think? What if you have got it backwards and it's really them who are the worthy one not you?
Three, isn't that kiddy like behaviour part of the reason this forum exists? I have had a couple of bods from the old place mention the scraps between a few of us at times. They do tend to only pick on one very small part of the entire thread but that's how 2020's roll. They see a bitch fight, I see adults having a, at the odd time, enthusiastic chat on assorted subjects and just like anytime enthusiasm is involved someone will say something and someone will be quick to disagree with it. But a day later normal broadcasting resumes...just as it does in your real life and in your own household from time to time. From the outside looking in it does appear a tad childish.
Four, What are you missing? You don't know what you don't know but maybe you'd want to know once you knew you didn't know.
Five, It's a online forum. It it pushes your buttons so much then is it time to have a serious think on whether you should be on them?
Six, Have to taken the bait? At times we all do.
Bugger me, back in the big smoke for only a couple of hours and I'm getting grumpy already............ and I don't like ya weather
It's non of that GO30. My life is too short, and I don't have the energy to interact with people that start posts directed at you with "Fuck off dick head", or call me a "Conniving Racist Cunt". Blocking Duckmaster is purely a personal choice about what I do with my energy, and who I want to interact with. I've come to the conclusion that Duckmaster's negatives are far to frequent and far outweigh his positives. I'm more than happy to have robust discussions on topics. But I can't be bothered with the toxicity that goes along with Duckmaster. Rather than get into another shitfight and waste negative energy, I've chosen to block him. The post of mine you've quoted is a round about way of saying I've blocked him. It also serves as a public service announcement to others on how to block someone that is getting on your tits. I want to make it clear, it's not Duckmaster's views I have a problem with. Dear I say it, I was most impressed with his tenacity in one of the threads around here defending co-governance about a month or two back. It went on for a week or two and he maintained his position against all-comers. The thing with that episode is it was just after he called me a "Conniving Racist Cunt" and the associated blow-back with that, and consequently he laid off the personal attacks and toxicity and just argued the topic. That thread was very good when he did that. There are many, many examples around here where people disagree, and do so robustly, without the need for personal insults. You post above sets out your views on what could easily be an inflammatory topic if not done well, but you did it well. I'm happy to interact with anyone who can argue a point, as long as they don't need to resort to childish personal insults and toxicity. |
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Post by sabre on Jan 15, 2024 20:11:16 GMT 12
If this place was a pub and some loud woke marxist and racist clown was contantly trying to shout down anyone that didn't agree with him he would get sorted out in very quick order. Unfortunately with a forum like this the only real option to shut him up is to block him.
But like I say if you like listening to his rantings fill ya boots.
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Post by DuckMaster on Jan 15, 2024 20:50:40 GMT 12
Lol. Funny thread. Shall I go look for all the abuse that's been thrown at me? On this forum I have been called dumb, I have been called stupid, I have been called a cunt, I have been called an idiot, I have been told to fuck off, I have been told to piss off, I have been impersonated and I have been censored because I upset fish who used his privilege to supress my posts. If you can't take what you give and when someone treats you the same way that you're treating them, you should take a good long look at yourself cause I am just mirroring the abuse that's thrown in my direction right back at you. Given I take the abuse from everyone you shouldn't be surprised when it's amplified. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Jan 15, 2024 20:59:17 GMT 12
If this place was a pub and some loud woke marxist and racist clown was contantly trying to shout down anyone that didn't agree with him he would get sorted out in very quick order. Unfortunately with a forum like this the only real option to shut him up is to block him. But like I say if you like listening to his rantings fill ya boots. .. Oh the abuse. How could you? My feelings are hurt. Please Mr Moderator help me to block the mean nasty sabre Pot kettle black... |
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Post by dutyfree on Jan 16, 2024 5:49:36 GMT 12
I don’t use the ignore function. I often use the pre digital ignore function ie I read something and move on. I don’t have the time or energy to debate every view expressed by every person that I don’t align 100% with.
We all have our own biases, preconceived ideas and experiences. None of us know everything. Fortunately none of us are brainwashed automation’s with absolutely identical perspectives.
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Post by GO30 on Jan 16, 2024 9:07:19 GMT 12
While it wasn't the intention to continue the Love Mr Ducky situation I suspected it may pan out that way. I will use Ducky in the response but note we can change 'ducky' for other names and the same still applies. I see many valid points made by all but the one that stands out the most to me is - If you can't take what you give and when someone treats you the same way that you're treating them, you should take a good long look at yourself cause I am just mirroring the abuse that's thrown in my direction right back at you. That is a very valid statement and I think Mr Ducky has been better at holding back on some response wording than maybe others have. Not defending his sometimes out there and WTF like thinking but I have watched him respond very reasonably to post that have contained some shit being thrown. Lately he's fighting back a bit and from the outside looking in I'm surprised it's taken him so long to do so.
Sure Ducky, and he's certainly not alone far from it, can be infuriating but with that comes why, as in which one of your buttons did he push and why is it such a big thing for you when he did? Is it a case he's pushed you against one of your boundaries that could make you question your beliefs or what you thought you knew was right. I can see that annoying he fuck out of many but isn't that exactly what exchanges of ideas and opinions is so awesome? He's pushed me against a couple of mine which has made me go deeper, and on occasion actually have a suss of something I haven't previously, that's why on those subjects I know have a better understanding, a deeper knowledge, some knowledge where there was none beforehand. Sure he's normally wrong but there's bits and pieces he's been quite right about so I've modified my thinking in spots but also hardened them in others  Isn't that what the quest for knowledge is all about - learning, knowing stuff, having that stuff being challenged and coming away from that knowing you're right or knowing you need to learn more.
After reading the responses to date I have changed my thinking a little around blocking posters to where maybe it is wise to block some but don't do it blaming them for the block when it is more a case of the blocker has the issues not the blocked. Some of the responses do show a very hardened attitude with little signs of any desire to leave the silo they live in. Personally I find that sad and do not think it is a healthy situation in a well functioning society.
I also think Mr Fogg and soldier/Scout thing has something to answer for in the making of this moment of ...whats the word/s I'm looking for? This whole thing is due to the combative soldier mentality many can not shake. It's also why while Julias desires are admirable and be awesome to see take over the word or just the interweb would be great, I just can't see the majority being able to do it.
Maybe the threads title and body should simply be - Stop being soldiers as some are obviously struggling with that, besides it leads to you isolating yourself. Be a Scout, it's where the good shit happens.
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Post by harrytom on Jan 18, 2024 6:59:28 GMT 12
So Go30 is troubled by a few here slapping each other with handbags Hmm just watching Aljezeera. If they are to believed one might want to bend over and kiss their arse goodbye. Ukraine Russia .Sera Leone .Iran Pakistan. Yeman Israel Palestine Lebanon North South Korea want to scrap again. The world's a mess and what some consider the world's police force USA seem to me to be the ones fuelling it all by supplying the weapons.
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Isn't that what the quest for knowledge is all about - learning, knowing stuff, having that stuff being challenged and coming away from that knowing you're right or knowing you need to learn more.