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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 22:01:02 GMT 12
Genesis has tried to close Huntley at least twice but been told Nope we need the quick to ramp up reserve if there are any network failures. I think someone said, during the cock up a month or 2 back, Huntley can ramp up the spare genny in about 4hrs. Shame that last one no one picked up on the issue until it was to late for Huntley to pull finger. You lot, via the Govt, are paying me $1500 per acre to plant trees. You'd pay me $4000 if they were natives but why plant a single use tree, why not a multi-tasker like we are. In a few years we can eat our trees output and sell it for around $100 per kg, not that that is the end game. By this time next year my investment into the trees, just on our place, should return us around $70K, if we planted natives that would be more like 190K. Then in kick the carbon credits. Around our way pines are going in faster then Iwi checkpoints. The green muppets are polishing themselves in glee about it as they see it as fucking over dirty dairy farmers but as noted above what will they find under those trees in 20 years? Soil that is near buggered and not just a few meters besides water ways but 1000's of hectares. Also whomever cuts them down will have some nice liabilities to content with. That is one reason we're not doing the easy and very profitable way of pines. The whole 'value' and longer term affects of pines seems totally lost on the environmentals. the environmentalists have no idea how to fix the supposed problem. If they did we wouldn't be at COP26. |
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Post by grounded on Dec 14, 2021 4:21:04 GMT 12
I have not heard that Genesis have tried to close Huntley twice. I only know that as of about 2yrs ago, the Plant was going through a shut down process that would see it cease operation around 2023-4.
The Gas turbines constantly run in idle in what is called a "Flywheel" effect. They take up the slack during the high demands. They can do this very quickly. I am not sure about the Coal fired turnbine, but to be going through that much Coal, it must be running full tilt as well. Unless the Coal figures are total imported and some of that goes tp Glenbrook. All that is outside my knowledge of the story.
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Post by dutyfree on Dec 14, 2021 9:56:43 GMT 12
Genesis have 2 gas turbines at the Huntly site. An open cycle gas turbine (about 50MW) that really only runs for peaking i.e. it is very fast start. A combined cycle gas turbine (about 350MW) that runs in an intermediate mode ie not base load and not pure peaking.
The original plant can run on coal or gas. They have three units of 250MW still operational. The station is effectively end of life (technical and increasingly economic).
Gas has been in relatively short supply due to some gas field issues. Coal then becomes necessary when hydro inflows are low. So the orginal plant has been running on coal. It has nothing to do with gas bans, it is to do with the ability to have a large quantity of stored energy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 11:12:42 GMT 12
Gas is in short supply because oil is not being extracted and new wells are now not being approved.... So the Govt has created the shortage thru their partners green ideology
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Post by dutyfree on Dec 14, 2021 13:35:57 GMT 12
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 28, 2021 8:54:59 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 13:55:22 GMT 12
why don't we fire the Ceo's in all these government money pits and combine them all into one 3 waters style " team". Then sack the management teams and enjoy the hired advisors as the fight for the remaining positions. |
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jan 2, 2022 20:22:00 GMT 12
A coal ship must be in port recently.......plenty of Gleeson & Cox trucks heading to the steel mill today must have counted at least 20 from from where I joined Glenbrook Road and turning off the motorway at Takinini.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jun 26, 2022 10:40:30 GMT 12
From BFD
CLIMATE CHANGE
Can Renewables Keep the Lights On?
Let’s do the numbers again, shall we?
by Lushington D. Brady 25 June, 2022 4:00 pm
No jobs in a "net zero" world. The BFD. Photoshop by Lushington Brady.
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As Australia, like most of the Western world, plunges deeper and deeper into an energy crisis, the green-left are plunging deeper and deeper into denial. The people most responsible for the calamitous situation — thousands of people in Britain alone are dying every year thanks to “energy poverty” — are not only steadfastly refusing to take responsibility, they’re militantly refusing to even admit what has gone wrong.
The idiot rich kids of the Teals almost grasped reality when they started demanding that more Australian gas be reserved for domestic use. Isn’t gas a fossil fuel? Why, after shrieking for years that we must abandon fossil fuels immediately, are the green-left suddenly squealing for fossil fuels?
Of course, like all demented dissonants, the Teals won’t admit that “renewables” are a bust. On the contrary, they’re doubling down and screeching for more renewables.
The old adage about insanity, and doing the same thing and expecting different results, comes to mind.
But even that’s not barking mad enough for these drooling loons. “We need to build more batteries!” they howl.
What these hooting howler monkeys never, ever talk about is just how much it would cost — or even if it would be remotely feasible — to build their nutty green utopia.
With that in mind, allow me to dust off some old back-of-the-envelope calculations from a while back.
At current rates of increase, world energy consumption by 2030 — the date demanded by the green-left for a total transition to “renewables” — will be 16,597.6 million tonnes of oil equivalent (MTOE).
Currently, just over 4% of that comes from “renewables”, with another 7% from hydro. But the green-left adamantly oppose new dams, and at recent growth rate, hydro will only account for barely 8% of energy by 2030.
That means we have 88% of that 16,597.6 MTOE to make up with wind and solar. What does that mean, in practical terms?
It means that every day we would have to build:
• 4,212 wind turbines, covering 2,878 square kilometres, or
• 557 square kilometres of solar panels.
I repeat: every day.
All up, that translates to 17,300,000 new wind turbines, covering 11,810,846 square kilometres. Just a bit less than the land area of the United States and India combined.
The equivalent 2,285,970 square kilometres of solar farm is almost modest, covering just Alaska and Texas combined.
Don’t forget the cost. The wind turbines would cost nearly US$60.5 trillion. Solar would cost even more: about US$63.9 trillion.
Oh, and they’d all have to be replaced within a decade or two.
Even after all that, there’s still the sticky problem that the wind doesn’t always blow or the sun always shine.
Sure, you could build more of Tesla’s giant South-Australian style batteries. Tesla’s battery supplies 129 megawatt-hours. By 2030, world consumption will be 193 trillion megawatt-hours. Even generously allowing that only half of that will need to be backed up at any one time, 750 million Tesla batteries. In the next ten years.
We would need to build more than 200, 000 Tesla batteries every day, for the next ten years.
This is quite obviously insanely impossible. So, why do the Climate Cultists keep pushing this delusional barrel? Partly because they are just that: cultists. You can bet your arse that not one single green-left loon has actually seen the above maths, let alone worked the sums for themselves.
But not everyone pushing the green-left barrow are ignorant and/or insane.
Some are just plain, venally, evilly, greedy.
Last year, The Economist constructed a portfolio of companies that would benefit from the world’s energy transition and estimated that these companies had a total market value of $US3.7 trillion. Tracking these companies’ economic performance, it found that since the start of 2020, they had performed twice as well as the S&P 500, with the “greenest 25% of firms (seeing) their share prices rise by 110%”. But the problem is, according to The Economist, that 30 per cent of these companies do not yet turn a profit.
The Australian
The “Net Zero” push is literally a scam. Like all scams, the greedy scum at the top will trouser fortunes, while the dupes who ran clucking after them are left with the arse out of their pants.
And the rest of us are left without power or able to afford spiralling petrol costs
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