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Post by Cantab on Mar 23, 2024 18:33:21 GMT 12
Now try that with Cindy
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Post by eri on Apr 2, 2024 15:05:03 GMT 12
the coalition of hypocrisy, in opposition
stamping their foot as the coalition, in government, haven't fixed 6 years of their f$%k-ups
in <6 months
the greens still haven't dealt to their exploiter of migrant labour and confessed that they're all marxists
and after 10? years labour still haven't found a leader who actually has a track record of doing anything other than seat-warming and squawking
yes, we do have memories
and yes, we are keeping score
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 4, 2024 9:19:46 GMT 12
Slater on the bloated public service thebfd.co.nz/2024/04/04/swing-that-axe-hard/why does NZ have so many ministries, all full of multilayered managements compared with other countries, both those with similar populations and on a global basis   |
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Post by sloopjohnb on Apr 4, 2024 10:43:14 GMT 12
Funny how I haven't seen graphs like those appear in the MSM?
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 4, 2024 13:08:54 GMT 12
Funny how I haven't seen graphs like those appear in the MSM? Kiwiblog asks a similar question www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/why_do_the_media_cover_staff_cuts_but_not_massive_staff_increases.html"A union is slamming Government spending cuts that will see the size of the Ministry for Pacific Peoples slashed by 40 percent as “brutal”, saying it’ll hit Pasifika communities hard.The Public Service Association (PSA) said in a statement on Thursday that the ministry had told staff it was seeking voluntary redundancies.The PSA said the ministry would cut 63 of 156 positions, of which 31 are vacant. It would look to redeploy and reassign staff."David Farrar commentsSo this would reduce the size of the ministry to 93 staff. Now in 2017 it had 37 FTE. So in just six years it had increased almost 400% and even after this reduction is 93 staff, that will still be 150% higher than in 2017. If current staff are not all FT, might be slightly less but still massively more than six years ago.A good media report would include this information. It might even look at what better outcomes eventuated from increasing MPP staffing by 400% and whether this represented value for money. I won’t hold my breath.Remember, this is the department that splashed out $40k for the CEO's farewell www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/40000-ministry-spend-to-farewell-boss-falls-foul-of-public-service-rules-report/ENRIQVWMDNHQJHXN7UMGIBPYE4/should have just been sausage rolls and cakes for morning tea |
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 5, 2024 8:04:24 GMT 12
more on out of control government department growth www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/which_govt_departments_have_grown_the_most.htmlThere has been a 34% increase over six years in the size of the public service, in terms of EFTS. But not all agencies have grown by the same proportion. Here are the 10 with the largest relative increases between 2017 and 2023.
Pacific Peoples 269%
Environment 189%
Transport 101%
MBIE 87%
Statistics 85%
Women 78%
Public Service Cmsn 74%
Culture & Heritage 68%
Defence 65%
Education 64%
So 10 departments have had staff increases of greater than 64%. Amazing
By absolute growth we have:
MBIE 2,917
Social Development 2,277
Education 1,679
Oranga Tamariki 1,340
MPI 1,300
Justice 1,122
Corrections 1,073
Statistics 779
Environment 661
Internal Affairs 597 |
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Post by eri on Apr 10, 2024 12:24:32 GMT 12
And it's not just the high salaries they all seem to command that costs
Once these new positions are filled they spend their time coming up with multi-million $'plans' that need to be funded
And as we know they don't like targets so when these plans don't provide the desired outcomes they blame 'underfunding'
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Post by sloopjohnb on Apr 10, 2024 13:56:11 GMT 12
I thought that the bureaucrats worked on a ponzi scheme, more people under you greater the pay pack, with the number of redundances someone should be getting less money and perchs.
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Post by DuckMaster on Apr 10, 2024 15:23:09 GMT 12
more on out of control government department growth www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/which_govt_departments_have_grown_the_most.htmlThere has been a 34% increase over six years in the size of the public service, in terms of EFTS. But not all agencies have grown by the same proportion. Here are the 10 with the largest relative increases between 2017 and 2023.
Pacific Peoples 269%
Environment 189%
Transport 101%
MBIE 87%
Statistics 85%
Women 78%
Public Service Cmsn 74%
Culture & Heritage 68%
Defence 65%
Education 64%
So 10 departments have had staff increases of greater than 64%. Amazing
By absolute growth we have:
MBIE 2,917
Social Development 2,277
Education 1,679
Oranga Tamariki 1,340
MPI 1,300
Justice 1,122
Corrections 1,073
Statistics 779
Environment 661
Internal Affairs 597These numbers are BS. I contract indirectly for three of these agencies doing software licensing among other things. They have not seen that much growth. Maybe it's turnover, eg people leave and they get replaced? But definitely not growth... They have not grown by that many users in the last 6 years. Unless the agencies are hiding staff by letting them share email addresses - this is BS. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 10, 2024 20:30:31 GMT 12
more on out of control government department growth www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/which_govt_departments_have_grown_the_most.htmlThere has been a 34% increase over six years in the size of the public service, in terms of EFTS. But not all agencies have grown by the same proportion. Here are the 10 with the largest relative increases between 2017 and 2023.
Pacific Peoples 269%
Environment 189%
Transport 101%
MBIE 87%
Statistics 85%
Women 78%
Public Service Cmsn 74%
Culture & Heritage 68%
Defence 65%
Education 64%
So 10 departments have had staff increases of greater than 64%. Amazing
By absolute growth we have:
MBIE 2,917
Social Development 2,277
Education 1,679
Oranga Tamariki 1,340
MPI 1,300
Justice 1,122
Corrections 1,073
Statistics 779
Environment 661
Internal Affairs 597These numbers are BS. I contract indirectly for three of these agencies doing software licensing among other things. They have not seen that much growth. Maybe it's turnover, eg people leave and they get replaced? But definitely not growth... They have not grown by that many users in the last 6 years. Unless the agencies are hiding staff by letting them share email addresses - this is BS. Once again Duckie you are talking thru your arse, www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350235317/cuts-may-hurt-wellington-barely-touch-sidesThis is against the backdrop of significant growth in the public service. According to the Public Service Commission data, since the second quarter of 2018 to December 2023 headcount in the core public service grew from just under 50,000 full-time equivalent employees to just over 65,000, an increase of about 15,000 or 32%.
www.publicservice.govt.nz/research-and-data/workforce-data-public-sector-composition/workforce-data-workforce-size
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Post by sloopjohnb on Apr 13, 2024 14:36:32 GMT 12
Love this article in Thursday's Herald regarding the reduction in public ![]() servants. No sure if the graphic artist was trying to funny, but look at Statistics NZ "Predicted" Net Job Lost of 124.  |
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 15, 2024 9:38:59 GMT 12
More on winding back the bloated public service and how the proposed "cuts" are not even matching growth www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/useful_context_on_public_sector_job_cuts.htmlFarrar quotes from the linked Herald article (wow, the Herald is now starting to report actual facts!) From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.
While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington water pipe (and to be fair, formal update announcements have also commenced).
Consequently, we know of proposed and completed redundancies of some 1000 people to date (give or take), as departments pare their spending in line with reduced and revised Budget allocations, now being finalised for announcement next month. …
But those figures remain eclipsed by the number of staff added through just the second half of last year: 368 additions at MBIE (a 5.9 per cent increase); 405 additions at MSD (a 4.5 per cent increase); 12 additions at MPI (a 0.3 per cent increase); and 77 additions at MoH (a 10.5 per cent increase).
All up, the public service expanded by 4.1 per cent in the last six months for which we have data, which amounted to an addition of 2580 net new employees, as of December 31.Interesting reading in the comments on the post about the claimed high pay some are receiving in PS jobs |
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Post by Cantab on Apr 15, 2024 10:19:05 GMT 12
My suspicion is that it was the contractors that were actually getting things done in the ministries.
Alot of them are probably on the payroll now.
With measurable outcomes and budget cuts choosing who goes should be alot easier.
I also suspect some of the leadership in the ministries are not up for it and DEI type hires, very attentive ministers should be able to sort out the management.
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 17, 2024 7:19:34 GMT 12
Kiwiblog on the FENZ blowout, another "cost saving" merger www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/04/fire_and_emergency_costs_blowout.html#comments This is typical of just about all government department growth, massive admin increase, small/no frontline increase in staff: The merger was mean to see operating costs decline by over 10%. Instead they have increased by 40%.
"Management and support staff have increased by 31% over the five-year period from 2017/18 to 2022/23 whilst career firefighters and volunteer numbers have only increased by 5% over the same period."
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Post by eri on Apr 20, 2024 15:10:24 GMT 12
how can anyone be surprised at the cuts to the public service when it grew so quick. and like most of labour's money chuck, delivered so little? "talks about the 80s reforms under David Lange's Labour government, which cut public service jobs from around 70,000 down to around 30,000.The John Key/Bill English National government had a cap of nearly 40,000 public servants.............25% increase over 30 years,
But Labour ditched this in 2018, growing the public service to around 65,000 during its time in office............ 55?% increase over 5 years+ "You could speculate that more spending means more output and that will improve the lives of New Zealanders, if you take a very benign view - spend more on officialdom and you'll get better outcomes," he says.(certainly didn't happen in the muldoon years) "But perversely over the last six years, most New Zealanders would probably feel we've moved backwards on some of the core measures."www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018934832/how-the-coolest-capital-is-shrinking |
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