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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 5:38:32 GMT 12
 Apparently this boat is in NZ and Chuck Paine is trying to find her. Anybody here know the boat? |
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 29, 2024 8:14:47 GMT 12
View AttachmentApparently this boat is in NZ and Chuck Paine is trying to find her. Anybody here know the boat? Is this the original Frances? Where did you read he is looking for her, he has not updated his website for a long time. I have his book "My Yacht Designs..." great reading (also has become a collectors item) and a couple of designs therein which fit the lotto boat category, such as Heartbeat (formerly Enterprise) au.yachtworld.com/yacht/1998-mcconaghy-bermuda-52-8700009/ |
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 8:51:53 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 8:57:24 GMT 12
I definately have a soft spot for the Frances and Carol. Very pretty little boats.
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 29, 2024 8:59:07 GMT 12
Thanks, I don't have Farcebook  Did you know the 65 footer he shows the sail plan for in his previous post now resides at Westhaven, still has her original name "Evolution" . Does not seem to get used much, just see her at Kawau occassionally |
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Post by muzled on Feb 29, 2024 9:35:18 GMT 12
Thanks, I don't have Farcebook Did you know the 65 footer he shows the sail plan for in his previous post now resides at Westhaven, still has her original name "Evolution" . Does not seem to get used much, just see her at Kawau occassionally Had a look on that a while back. Was rowing out to the cheap seat poles where we are and she'd moved berths to where I row past. Went over for a look and the owners were on it, got chatting and went onboard. It's a long way to the front! Very cool boat, alloy and built to a very high standard. Imagine you couldn't get that built for $2M nowadays. But yeah, every time I've been over to our boat, it's been there tied up. |
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Post by Fogg on Feb 29, 2024 9:47:33 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 10:02:10 GMT 12
Thanks, I don't have Farcebook Did you know the 65 footer he shows the sail plan for in his previous post now resides at Westhaven, still has her original name "Evolution" . Does not seem to get used much, just see her at Kawau occassionally I'm not surprised. The amount of boats at Tga bridge marina that get little or no use breaks my heart. In saying that, I guess our anchorages have more room because of it. |
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 10:06:57 GMT 12
No idea what that is but definately not a Frances at 40ft. Certainly has old world charm but unfortunately it is ferro and neglected.. |
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 10:09:32 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 29, 2024 11:52:07 GMT 12
Thanks, I don't have Farcebook Did you know the 65 footer he shows the sail plan for in his previous post now resides at Westhaven, still has her original name "Evolution" . Does not seem to get used much, just see her at Kawau occassionally Had a look on that a while back. Was rowing out to the cheap seat poles where we are and she'd moved berths to where I row past. Went over for a look and the owners were on it, got chatting and went onboard. It's a long way to the front! Very cool boat, alloy and built to a very high standard. Imagine you couldn't get that built for $2M nowadays. But yeah, every time I've been over to our boat, it's been there tied up. Paine's book is a great read about his building up his design office, he started off with a masters in marine engineering (I think) and initially worked for some defence contractor designing submarine nuclear power plants. Did some time in Dick Carter's office then went out on his own. Book is available from Auckland Libraries He wrote quite an detailed chapter about Evolution's design and build in Holland, ~USD$1M in 1995. He is quite self deprecating and tells how he made a f**k up on the hull frame drawings, one side allowed for the hull skin thickness, the other did not. Thought the cost of replacing these would bankrupt him but fortunately the Dutch yard picked up the error. Four of his designs were built in NZ, yachts - 62' Onoroa and 82' Leonora, both by Kelly Archer with aluminium work subbed to Bos and Carr (Kumeu), power boats 62' Northern Light and 72' Adagio under supervision of John Vitali, I think aluminium fabrication for both by Profab Palmerston North. Paine made the comment when negotiating the build for Leonora that "Archer's estimate took your breath away", but the owner still went with him for the build quality. Paine has retired but his former associates Mark Fitzgerald and Ed Joy have his portfolio of designs and continue producing "Paine like" designs |
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Post by sabre on Feb 29, 2024 12:30:58 GMT 12
The thing I like about Chuck is that even after all these years he is still so passionate about his boats. He is currently rebuilding a Frances 26 in his driveway and even after all this time, trying to improve its sailing ability. One mod he is doing is deepening the aft end of the keel to reduce a vortex it produces which effects windward sailing ability. youtu.be/bJUKW9iFSN4?si=fbI2CNlznntaBCUY |
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