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Post by Fogg on Apr 21, 2024 13:49:05 GMT 12
What do you reckon this thing is doing?   |
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 15:27:20 GMT 12
I reckon it is a big red ship.
Been watching it all day from home.
Is that AIS showing it as 'Restricted in Ability to Maneuver"? as in RAM?
That is interesting.
It looks like it is over my fav fishing spot of Army Bay. Perhaps it is looking for that catch net I dropped overboard in Dec 23?
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 15:32:26 GMT 12
Those AIS sights suggest it is surveying. It appears I've managed to break co-pilot on my first attempt at using it to find out why it is surveying there.
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 18:27:17 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Apr 21, 2024 19:51:01 GMT 12
I’m v intrigued about what it’s up to. In a politely curious way.
If it’s still out there tomorrow I might head out and find out more.
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 20:36:32 GMT 12
This AIS track makes it look like it's worked up and down the cable zone from Flat Rock-ish up the Jellico Channel. But the SW heading bit is a bit bemusing. It faces directly at Read Beach, and most of the track is in the first part closest to Red Beach, with 9 parallel runs. The rest of it is one or two parallel runs. Given it is a survey ship, it's AIS says it is RAM, and operating at survey speed and it's destination is 'survey site' I think it is safe to assume it is carrying out a survey. Given part of the survey runs up the existing cable zone, but the bulk of the survey is facing Red Beach, it gives rise to the possibility it is carrying out a survey for a new marine cable of some sort. The foreshore around large parts of Red Beach / Stanmore Bay would be suitable for bringing a cable ashore. In saying all that, I'm not aware of any current cable projects, and there isn't really any logic putting in new cable terminal infrastructure when there is already existing cable terminal infrastructure. That is unless this is a new cable that is in competition with the existing cables? Some very big assumptions here, but it is hard to understand what else it could be. The Navy does charting work, and there is no need to update charts in that area cause there is nothing much of interest there. Commercial survey ships aren't cheap, so it isn't going to be something like Navionics updating contour maps. It appears to be following a cable type route, and part of the route is over an existing cable zone, so, something to do with a new cable? www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:174.846/centery:-36.508/zoom:12 |
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 20:40:02 GMT 12
Possibly this? New submarine cable nearly doubles NZ’s international connectivity News 07 Jul 2022 3 mins Industry 15,840km cable runs from Sydney to Los Angeles with links to Auckland, Fiji, Tokelau, and Kiribati. The launch of a new submarine cable by Southern Cross Cables is expanding New Zealand's international connectivity by nearly 100 per cent. The Southern Cross NEXT fibre cable (SX NEXT), delivered by Alcatel Submarine Networks, created the largest submarine network connecting New Zealand, Australasia to the US, the company said. The cable will boost the capacity of New Zealand's global connectivity, carrying an additional 72 Tbit/s of data, effectively doubling New Zealand's direct international connectivity to the USA. The cable is intended to meet rising demand for hyperscale bandwidth driven by cloud adoption and digitisation. The 15,840km cable, running from Sydney to Los Angeles with links to Auckland, Fiji, Tokelau, and Kiribati, becomes the third route in the Southern Cross network eco-system between Australasia and the USA, and has taken just over two years to complete. It was originally due to go live around the end of 2021, but was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. www.reseller.co.nz/article/1299566/new-submarine-cable-nearly-doubles-nzs-international-connectivity.html |
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Post by fish on Apr 21, 2024 20:42:43 GMT 12
Accept this link shows a map with the Southern Cross NEXT cable going down the Rangi Channge to the existing terminal location. Edit, and NEXT was launched for service on the 7 July 2022, so they wont be surveying and building it now. Edit Again: A reasonable thorough internet search has not come up with any 'new' submarine cable projects. There is one from Invercargil to Melbourne, to enable a datacentre in Invercargil of all places. There are cable landing sites at Takapuna, Mangawhai, Raglan and Whenuapai, so I can't see why anyone would build a new one at Red Beach. So I recon we can rule out surveying for a new submarine cable. So what could be going on? www.submarinecablemap.com/submarine-cable/southern-cross-next |
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Post by em on Apr 21, 2024 22:30:04 GMT 12
They’ve been given a fast track consent to survey the red stuff at red beach . Apparently it’s good shit for making batteries
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Post by dutyfree on Apr 22, 2024 7:55:02 GMT 12
There is a big data centre up that way. CDC one from memory
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 22, 2024 8:50:05 GMT 12
There is a big data centre up that way. CDC one from memory The new one at Millwater? |
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Post by fish on Apr 22, 2024 8:56:50 GMT 12
It is still going back and forth out there. Even the Admiral wants to know what it is doing now. Looking at the 'News' Section of the company website, all they seem to do is surveys for submarine cables. Mainly for data lines as far as I can tell. I'm on the verge of just phoning their Sydney office and asking... I could phone the Harbour Master but the chances they know what is actually happening in their patch (based on past experience) is between very little and not much. www.egssurvey.com/Home.html |
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Post by fish on Apr 22, 2024 9:01:27 GMT 12
There is a big data centre up that way. CDC one from memory The new one at Millwater? There is a big one going into Highgate, which is just over the back of Millwater. This article indicates it was to be built in 2022, but I'm fairly sure the building is still under construction. It is massive and dominates the view from the motorway. If it wanted an international fibre connection, Red Beach would be a logical terminal point. It is closest to Highgate and better than Orewa Beach in that the sand is more stable, and the Council don't run scrapper loaders spreaders up and down it every 6 months. Work has begun on a massive, 11,000sqm computer data centre in Highgate, Silverdale, which is expected to bring local employment, mainly in the construction phase. By comparison, the Mighty Ape distribution centre, also in Silverdale, is 9000sqm. The cloud computing facility, along with another in Hobsonville, is being built by Canberra Data Centres (CDC), which is 48 percent owned by Infratil, and represents an investment of more than $300 million. In Australia, CDC partners with Microsoft. Auckland Council granted land use consent in August and earthworks are underway. It is expected that the centre at 29 and 31 Highgate Parkway could be ready for fit-out by the end of the 2022 financial year. CDC notes that there is additional land in Highgate that could be progressively developed over time to support more demand. Data centres are centralised locations for cloud computing and networking equipment so that large amounts of data can be stored and processed. The need for these centres has been powered by the Covid-19 related increase in people working from home using services such as Zoom – CDC expects this trend to continue. The centres are known for their high demands on electricity, and generally employ low numbers of well-paid staff. www.localmatters.co.nz/hibiscus-news/cloud-computing-centre-on-silverdale-horizon/ |
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Post by em on Apr 22, 2024 10:31:10 GMT 12
The new one at Millwater? There is a big one going into Highgate, which is just over the back of Millwater. This article indicates it was to be built in 2022, but I'm fairly sure the building is still under construction. It is massive and dominates the view from the motorway. If it wanted an international fibre connection, Red Beach would be a logical terminal point. It is closest to Highgate and better than Orewa Beach in that the sand is more stable, and the Council don't run scrapper loaders spreaders up and down it every 6 months. Work has begun on a massive, 11,000sqm computer data centre in Highgate, Silverdale, which is expected to bring local employment, mainly in the construction phase. By comparison, the Mighty Ape distribution centre, also in Silverdale, is 9000sqm. The cloud computing facility, along with another in Hobsonville, is being built by Canberra Data Centres (CDC), which is 48 percent owned by Infratil, and represents an investment of more than $300 million. In Australia, CDC partners with Microsoft. Auckland Council granted land use consent in August and earthworks are underway. It is expected that the centre at 29 and 31 Highgate Parkway could be ready for fit-out by the end of the 2022 financial year. CDC notes that there is additional land in Highgate that could be progressively developed over time to support more demand. Data centres are centralised locations for cloud computing and networking equipment so that large amounts of data can be stored and processed. The need for these centres has been powered by the Covid-19 related increase in people working from home using services such as Zoom – CDC expects this trend to continue. The centres are known for their high demands on electricity, and generally employ low numbers of well-paid staff. www.localmatters.co.nz/hibiscus-news/cloud-computing-centre-on-silverdale-horizon/I’ve commented before on these facilities , they are soft targets for Graham Phillips type saboteurs . I’m sure they will have some sort of perimeter security but not airborne . |
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Post by GO30 on Apr 22, 2024 17:24:09 GMT 12
What do you reckon this thing is doing? Following the latest theory on MH370?
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