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Post by GO30 on Jun 20, 2024 17:40:33 GMT 12
I was told some weeks back the Sail GP would pull the pin but wasn't too sure how accurate that was after the comments after the Dolphin shenanigans.
Listening/looking and yacking around today there seems very few really that upset about it, the majority very much so-so and a good number very pleased. Way more OK with the call than not,which I found interesting.
I wonder where it will turn up? I'm picking Welly or the BoI but with Akl as the dark horse. I know some in council really want it and were willing to 'drop n suck' someone to make it happen. |
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Post by fish on Jun 20, 2024 17:56:39 GMT 12
I was told some weeks back the Sail GP would pull the pin but wasn't too sure how accurate that was after the comments after the Dolphin shenanigans.
Listening/looking and yacking around today there seems very few really that upset about it, the majority very much so-so and a good number very pleased. Way more OK with the call than not,which I found interesting.
I wonder where it will turn up? I'm picking Welly or the BoI but with Akl as the dark horse. I know some in council really want it and were willing to 'drop n suck' someone to make it happen. If the problem in Chch was tribes swinging undue influence, I can't see Coutts going near Nga Puhi and all the hotbed of nonsense in Tai Tokerau. So I'll bet you a good bottle of whiskey right now in wont go to the BoI. Not to mention the even worse dolphin rules in the Bay. Looking forward to New York this weekend. Halifax was a shit show of a venue. Too windy to launch boats so they raced without some, squals and rain so you couldn't really see, stuff hooning at 40-50knts when you can't see and have wharfs about 2 boat lengths downwind of the rounding mark and finish line... Apparently the water temp was 8 deg?!? Noted Burling wearing dive gloves, many crew in dry suits (probably all actually) and some crew with dive hoods under their helmets. Big contrast from Bermuda last month. |
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Post by em on Jun 20, 2024 18:44:28 GMT 12
I was told some weeks back the Sail GP would pull the pin but wasn't too sure how accurate that was after the comments after the Dolphin shenanigans.
Listening/looking and yacking around today there seems very few really that upset about it, the majority very much so-so and a good number very pleased. Way more OK with the call than not,which I found interesting.
I wonder where it will turn up? I'm picking Welly or the BoI but with Akl as the dark horse. I know some in council really want it and were willing to 'drop n suck' someone to make it happen. If the problem in Chch was tribes swinging undue influence, I can't see Coutts going near Nga Puhi and all the hotbed of nonsense in Tai Tokerau. So I'll bet you a good bottle of whiskey right now in wont go to the BoI. Not to mention the even worse dolphin rules in the Bay. Looking forward to New York this weekend. Halifax was a shit show of a venue. Too windy to launch boats so they raced without some, squals and rain so you couldn't really see, stuff hooning at 40-50knts when you can't see and have wharfs about 2 boat lengths downwind of the rounding mark and finish line... Apparently the water temp was 8 deg?!? Noted Burling wearing dive gloves, many crew in dry suits (probably all actually) and some crew with dive hoods under their helmets. Big contrast from Bermuda last month. I think BOI is a great venue but can it house all the people and all the kit onshore for boat bases ? . It’s a bloody busy place peak season so logistics might kill it . Opua wharf is about the only place for bleachers but a shit place for a finish area . BOI yacht club point at Waitangi could work as a finish/viewing area …bearing in mind its still Ngupuhi country . |
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Post by GO30 on Jun 21, 2024 10:41:16 GMT 12
Lyttleton was reportedly the biggest sailing event crowd ever so SPG reckons. I strongly suspect they meant 'paying crowd on site' as it was only 22,000.
Less than the number who have filled North Head to watch boating shit and that turn out to a big local derby rugby match. That's not huge numbers to deal.
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Post by em on Jun 21, 2024 14:28:07 GMT 12
Lyttleton was reportedly the biggest sailing event crowd ever so SPG reckons. I strongly suspect they meant 'paying crowd on site' as it was only 22,000. Less than the number who have filled North Head to watch boating shit and that turn out to a big local derby rugby match. That's not huge numbers to deal. No but they had a major city over the hill . BOI has one small supermarket and a 4 square and one gas station |
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Post by fish on Jul 9, 2024 20:39:12 GMT 12
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Post by harrytom on Jul 10, 2024 4:23:15 GMT 12
Wonder if they will close Northcote Pt under the bridge
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Post by harrytom on Jul 10, 2024 23:58:21 GMT 12
Think we might have the ideal spot,mate has a mooring on the outer edge at Northcote point.
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Post by harrytom on Jul 11, 2024 16:52:49 GMT 12
I cant help but feel this will be a one off or flop. Too many advantage points to be economical as far pay to view from a grandstand.Depending on wind direction the uper end of harbour,will to flukey unles the course is straight up and down harbour with no wing marks.Take a swnot a lot room to have a windward start. be something like Stanley poit to Westhaven then a very sprint to what Bayswater beacon area? Cannot see it working.Se can only be reaching up and down Harbour. E windward/running. Be great to see but just cant,nor can friends,see it working
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Post by fish on Jul 11, 2024 21:45:00 GMT 12
Doesn't sound like you've watched an event on TV lately HT. Free to view this Sunday and Monday from 9:30 am for the San Fran Grand Final.
They don't do windward starts, they do reaching starts.
The legs are maybe 0.7nm long if you are lucky, sometimes as short as 0.5nm.
A full race must be completed in 15 minutes or less.
They put the finish lines in the most stupid spots, like 20m off a wharf or pier or sea wall. I'd expect they'd put the finish line right infront of the pubs at North Wharf or somewhere equally as random.
They don't make money by selling tickets, it is entirely about international viewer numbers and advertising dollars.
I think they'd be lucky to cover the event costs with ticket sales, probably not even close.
Given the mind-numbingly short courses, there should be plenty of room infront of North Wharf / the Tank Farm / Northcote point.
The big concern is having enough wind to foil. The other big concern for me is space for a spectator fleet, I doubt there will be any space.
I'm keen to buy tickets for the family, but don't know what they cost, expecting moon-beams. And just getting tickets might be an issue, Halifax sold out in 12 minutes. I've been told seeing these things on the water in the flesh is next level. Watching on TV is hard core, just keeping track of what is going on, but to see them in person would be an experience I'm really hoping I can share with the kids. Miss 11 is getting right into it, made us watch the 'On the Edge' news video tonight about it. She's always asking when the next event is on and jabbering non-stop about the teams etc. I'm on the verge of convincing her to actually learn to sail.
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Post by harrytom on Jul 11, 2024 23:09:32 GMT 12
Doesn't sound like you've watched an event on TV lately HT. Free to view this Sunday and Monday from 9:30 am for the San Fran Grand Final. They don't do windward starts, they do reaching starts. The legs are maybe 0.7nm long if you are lucky, sometimes as short as 0.5nm. A full race must be completed in 15 minutes or less. They put the finish lines in the most stupid spots, like 20m off a wharf or pier or sea wall. I'd expect they'd put the finish line right infront of the pubs at North Wharf or somewhere equally as random. They don't make money by selling tickets, it is entirely about international viewer numbers and advertising dollars. I think they'd be lucky to cover the event costs with ticket sales, probably not even close. Given the mind-numbingly short courses, there should be plenty of room infront of North Wharf / the Tank Farm / Northcote point. The big concern is having enough wind to foil. The other big concern for me is space for a spectator fleet, I doubt there will be any space. I'm keen to buy tickets for the family, but don't know what they cost, expecting moon-beams. And just getting tickets might be an issue, Halifax sold out in 12 minutes. I've been told seeing these things on the water in the flesh is next level. Watching on TV is hard core, just keeping track of what is going on, but to see them in person would be an experience I'm really hoping I can share with the kids. Miss 11 is getting right into it, made us watch the 'On the Edge' news video tonight about it. She's always asking when the next event is on and jabbering non-stop about the teams etc. I'm on the verge of convincing her to actually learn to sail. Watch plenty of GP racing,can never work out which tack they are on . Wasnt the issue last time Auckland was to be host .The tank farm unavailable so no grandstand. If its not about ticket sales $$ why worry about a grandstand?As you said, shown on TV for free. Reckon "Coutts" will still have a issue after the event and rule NZ out. |
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Post by em on Jul 12, 2024 8:47:07 GMT 12
Doesn't sound like you've watched an event on TV lately HT. Free to view this Sunday and Monday from 9:30 am for the San Fran Grand Final. They don't do windward starts, they do reaching starts. The legs are maybe 0.7nm long if you are lucky, sometimes as short as 0.5nm. A full race must be completed in 15 minutes or less. They put the finish lines in the most stupid spots, like 20m off a wharf or pier or sea wall. I'd expect they'd put the finish line right infront of the pubs at North Wharf or somewhere equally as random. They don't make money by selling tickets, it is entirely about international viewer numbers and advertising dollars. I think they'd be lucky to cover the event costs with ticket sales, probably not even close. Given the mind-numbingly short courses, there should be plenty of room infront of North Wharf / the Tank Farm / Northcote point. The big concern is having enough wind to foil. The other big concern for me is space for a spectator fleet, I doubt there will be any space. I'm keen to buy tickets for the family, but don't know what they cost, expecting moon-beams. And just getting tickets might be an issue, Halifax sold out in 12 minutes. I've been told seeing these things on the water in the flesh is next level. Watching on TV is hard core, just keeping track of what is going on, but to see them in person would be an experience I'm really hoping I can share with the kids. Miss 11 is getting right into it, made us watch the 'On the Edge' news video tonight about it. She's always asking when the next event is on and jabbering non-stop about the teams etc. I'm on the verge of convincing her to actually learn to sail. Worst finish line I’ve seen is the one that was right under the lee of a cruise ship . Heaps of boats lost a position on the last few hundred metres to the finish line . |
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