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Post by muzled on Nov 15, 2024 14:44:34 GMT 12
Ngarewa Packer is a piece of work. Denies any shooting gestures on red radio. The video doesn't lie like she does though. www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4F49zMhZn0&ab_channel=StuffGood to see the ram raid liar got docked a days pay for her actions as well. Also noticeable how angry DNP is as she walks out. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 16, 2024 10:18:11 GMT 12
Rob Mc Culloch having his say on the KC's letter In a letter addressed to the PM regarding ACT's Treaty Principles Bill, NZ King’s Counsels succeeded in one respect. They showed they don't know constitutional law. Yes, there's the common law, developed through decisions of judges, rather than statute. But when it comes to constitutional matters, the job of Courts is to interpret constitutions, not re-write them. Yet that is what NZ's Kings Counsels have advocated. Although the word "principles" never appeared in the Treaty, nor was defined by Parliament, the Counsels assert the Courts constitute the only authority in NZ with powers to make them up. Even though the Treaty signatories, Māori & non-Māori, never referred to such matters, judges over the past few decades, most of whom illiterate in the sense of being unable to speak, read, or write Te Reo Māori - so couldn't make an iota of sense of the Māori version of the Treaty - have been self-declared by their own peers as validly inventing & writing a set of Principles. They claim they now form a significant chunk of our Constitution.
Extraordinarily, the Kings Counsels assert that NZ governments, like the one Seymour co-leads, lack authority to "rewrite" any Treaty Principles, since, they argue, that constitutes rewriting the Treaty. But those same Counsels are perfectly content with the Courts having those same powers. They argue our Courts, entirely independently of the Treaty signatories, have already "developed" their own set of Principles, which now "represent settled law". That assertion is far more insulting to Māori than to non-Māori. At least the Treaty was a jointly signed document - but the Principles were written down over a century later by a group of Anglophile NZ judges, with British educated legal minds. Take one of them, Lord Robin Cooke. His eulogy reads, "Lord Cooke was entirely at home at Westminster in the House of Lords, in Cambridge or Oxford, at Inner Temple and in the members' pavilion at Lords .. he was a monarchist, counting it a privilege to be one of Her Majesty's judges".
Are these my views? Not really. I'd argue they were much closer to those of one of ACT Leader David Seymour' most vociferous critics, Treaty scholar, Dame Anne Salmond. She declares, "What do the relationships forged in 1840 mean for contemporary constitutional arrangements in NZ? That’s the puzzle at the heart of Te Tiriti". However, it appears that for New Zealand's Kings Counsels there is no such puzzle. They have already "settled" the matter in law. How ironic for a group a pompous lawyers bearing the title "King" to lecture Parliament and the people, telling us how they've got it all sorted; how the courts have already written our constitution all by their little selves.
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Post by GO30 on Nov 16, 2024 14:43:27 GMT 12
As I mentioned to some one a while back, the very thing the Maori party has it's carkoi going is to fight to save treaty related stuff that was made up by old white men.
They had no response but the facial features as they processed that was gold.
In other interesting news. I just had a car full of people arrive to suss my Smokey, a towed topper/mower. In chatting as he topped a paddock for me to suss the mower, the in-laws who came with them said they were paid up and active Nats. On further chatting they suggested Luxon is losing support amongst the Nats grass roots for a couple of things, one being his continual statements on the Act bill. Another was his 'silly ticktok rubbish'. No idea what that's about but it seemed to be pushing her buttons.
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Post by fish on Nov 16, 2024 15:28:37 GMT 12
Funny how the media didn't tell us about this until after it happened, and the only coverage is focused on traffic disruption. “If you are opposed to the division and hatred you witness within the Toitū te Tiriti hikoi and Treaty Principles Bill debate, this is something positive you can be a part of as we pushback,” a media release said. They claimed the protests meant people wanted “two nations in one country”. “It’s time New Zealand patriots began to proudly fly the New Zealand flag outside their homes and businesses. www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360489266/patriots-parade-travels-down-auckland-motorway |
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Post by muzled on Nov 16, 2024 16:56:16 GMT 12
Funny how the media didn't tell us about this until after it happened, and the only coverage is focused on traffic disruption. “If you are opposed to the division and hatred you witness within the Toitū te Tiriti hikoi and Treaty Principles Bill debate, this is something positive you can be a part of as we pushback,” a media release said. They claimed the protests meant people wanted “two nations in one country”. “It’s time New Zealand patriots began to proudly fly the New Zealand flag outside their homes and businesses. www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360489266/patriots-parade-travels-down-auckland-motorwayA convoy of dangerous racist neo nazi's no doubt. If only Kate Hannah and her disinformation project were still around they could run and investigation into them all. |
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Post by fish on Nov 16, 2024 17:41:19 GMT 12
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Post by muzled on Nov 16, 2024 17:57:50 GMT 12
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Post by harrytom on Nov 16, 2024 18:56:39 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Nov 16, 2024 19:38:32 GMT 12
Seymour is the wrong Maori too. (Nga Puhi) So is Peters So is Jones So is Karen Chhour So is Shane Reti So is James Meager So is Tama Potaka So is Dan Bidois So is Nicole McKee So is Casey Costello So are the other two govt MP's who I can't be bothered finding. Did you know there are 33 MP's that identify as Maori in Parliament this term? And did you know that this allegedly anti-Maori govt has the highest number of Maori Ministers ever? Turns out not all Maori want two nations in one country. But the ones that think differently to the narrative are racist and spreading hatred. Just saying. |
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Post by fish on Nov 16, 2024 19:40:12 GMT 12
PS, did you know Casey Costello was the spokesperson for Hobsons Choice for 8 years?
And an ex Cop.
Shame she went and fucked her reputation with all the tabacco tax bullshit.
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Post by phish on Nov 16, 2024 19:57:19 GMT 12
lol... id never seen this name written down... only heard it on radio national... there its pronounced Dama Bodarker.
weirdly the same announcer calls (i think) Kaitaia G'dyer.... shes so woke only 1 word in 3 is legible.
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Post by muzled on Nov 18, 2024 7:04:09 GMT 12
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/11/ele-ludemann-responsibility-for-rule.html?m=1As Simon O’Connor writes if you want to be respected you must show respect: Imagine going onto a marae and as the karanga begins, someone starts screaming and throwing white camellias – the symbol of the women’s suffrage movement – to protest most iwi’s rules that women are not to sit in front, or speak, on marae. There would be an uproar, and rightly so.
While there will be divided opinions on whether such rules are appropriate or not, most would agree that breaking protocol/tikanga in such a way, and at such a time, would be wildly ‘out of order’.
Of course, we hear a lot about the importance of tikanga from the Maori Party. But as we have seen repeatedly they don’t really believe in protocols and respect. They only believe in themselves and it is well past time that New Zealand saw and understood them for who they are – zealots and Marxist revolutionaries.
The behaviour in Parliament by the Maori Party MPs, and ably assisted by the lunatics in the Green Party, was appalling. . .It’s a debating chamber where MPs make their points with words, not actions and if they can’t do that civilly, cogently and coherently, one might be forgiven for asking, do they actually have any grounds for their disagreement?
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 18, 2024 7:24:28 GMT 12
more from Rob Mc Culloch on the KC's letter Kings Counsels just Snuffed NZ's Economy by declaring Sovereignty actually lies with their Judge Mates
What do the partners in the City law firms earn in NZ? Reputedly incomes way over a million dollars a year. A bunch of them took the wage subsidy, even though business boomed for many of their firms during the lock-downs as they were called upon to sort out disputes, like who should pay the rent on commercial buildings. They never disclosed their incomes, since partnerships don't have to disclose their accounts publicly. They hid behind a wall of silence. Most only returned the subsidy after Sir Roger Douglas and myself called them out in the Media. You can read the story here. Many repaid the day after we put them on the front page news - not before. Lawyers dominate our boardrooms, even though most have no industry specific knowledge - whether its the Big Banks, Kiwi Rail, or Fletchers. You name a monopoly in NZ and you will likely find the boardroom stacked with lawyers. Its a proper old boys & old girls club. Chapman Tripp threatened Auckland University with defamation unless it took down an article written by a colleague of mine about Foodstuff's monopoly powers. Lawyers, more than any other group, are putting up the cost of living in NZ.
Now the Kings Counsels have written a letter saying that much of the Constitution of this country is only entitled to be written by judges - no-one else is allowed to tell us what are the "principles" behind the Treaty - even though most Kiwis don't believe such principles even exist. Forget Māori having a say in the matter. Forget Parliament. Let alone plumbers, shop-keepers, doctors, nurses, builders, teachers, or engineers. None of us count. Why has the letter that Kings Counsels wrote to the PM, quoted in Parliament by MP Willie Jackson, gone & wrecked the Kiwi economy? Because it has thrown into chaos the security & clarity of our property rights, and as this year's Economics Nobel Prize reminded us, it is that security & clarity that determines long run productivity growth. My advice to investors, domestic or foreign, is to not invest in NZ. Why? Since a bunch of self-interested lawyers and their judge mates now run the show in this country. They're playing those who identify as Māori off against those identifying as non-Māori, all for their fee income. Wait until the big law firms bleed the Iwi Trusts dry, since those firms thrive on disputes & now have whole departments set up to "advise" the Trusts. It is judges who are writing the legal principles which now govern the economic incentives faced by all of us - that affect the opportunities of our children. How hard to work as a student is now dictated by NZ's legal profession - since university places and jobs have come to be decided on how much applicants align with the chosen constitutional "principles" our judges have decided upon.
New Zealand's legal profession has got too big for its boots. The Kings Counsels who wrote to PM Luxon should disclose their incomes, since they have entered the political arena, and in that arena you must disclose your finances so people can work out your conflicts of interest. What did the Counsels earn during Covid, when the rest of the country suffered? How much have they siphoned off the Māori economy as fee income? Go on, tell us. Of course you wont. You will just go and slink back into the darkness & leave none of us not knowing where you are coming from.
Anyone who thinks these KC's are standing up for public interest is deluding themselves!
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Post by muzled on Nov 18, 2024 8:15:18 GMT 12
more from Rob Mc Culloch on the KC's letter Kings Counsels just Snuffed NZ's Economy by declaring Sovereignty actually lies with their Judge Mates
What do the partners in the City law firms earn in NZ? Reputedly incomes way over a million dollars a year. A bunch of them took the wage subsidy, even though business boomed for many of their firms during the lock-downs as they were called upon to sort out disputes, like who should pay the rent on commercial buildings. They never disclosed their incomes, since partnerships don't have to disclose their accounts publicly. They hid behind a wall of silence. Most only returned the subsidy after Sir Roger Douglas and myself called them out in the Media. You can read the story here. Many repaid the day after we put them on the front page news - not before. Lawyers dominate our boardrooms, even though most have no industry specific knowledge - whether its the Big Banks, Kiwi Rail, or Fletchers. You name a monopoly in NZ and you will likely find the boardroom stacked with lawyers. Its a proper old boys & old girls club. Chapman Tripp threatened Auckland University with defamation unless it took down an article written by a colleague of mine about Foodstuff's monopoly powers. Lawyers, more than any other group, are putting up the cost of living in NZ.
Now the Kings Counsels have written a letter saying that much of the Constitution of this country is only entitled to be written by judges - no-one else is allowed to tell us what are the "principles" behind the Treaty - even though most Kiwis don't believe such principles even exist. Forget Māori having a say in the matter. Forget Parliament. Let alone plumbers, shop-keepers, doctors, nurses, builders, teachers, or engineers. None of us count. Why has the letter that Kings Counsels wrote to the PM, quoted in Parliament by MP Willie Jackson, gone & wrecked the Kiwi economy? Because it has thrown into chaos the security & clarity of our property rights, and as this year's Economics Nobel Prize reminded us, it is that security & clarity that determines long run productivity growth. My advice to investors, domestic or foreign, is to not invest in NZ. Why? Since a bunch of self-interested lawyers and their judge mates now run the show in this country. They're playing those who identify as Māori off against those identifying as non-Māori, all for their fee income. Wait until the big law firms bleed the Iwi Trusts dry, since those firms thrive on disputes & now have whole departments set up to "advise" the Trusts. It is judges who are writing the legal principles which now govern the economic incentives faced by all of us - that affect the opportunities of our children. How hard to work as a student is now dictated by NZ's legal profession - since university places and jobs have come to be decided on how much applicants align with the chosen constitutional "principles" our judges have decided upon.
New Zealand's legal profession has got too big for its boots. The Kings Counsels who wrote to PM Luxon should disclose their incomes, since they have entered the political arena, and in that arena you must disclose your finances so people can work out your conflicts of interest. What did the Counsels earn during Covid, when the rest of the country suffered? How much have they siphoned off the Māori economy as fee income? Go on, tell us. Of course you wont. You will just go and slink back into the darkness & leave none of us not knowing where you are coming from.
Anyone who thinks these KC's are standing up for public interest is deluding themselves!
It's that old saying - 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name... |
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Post by fish on Nov 18, 2024 9:16:41 GMT 12
Just found out the leader of the Hikoi is the son of a Tea-Parti MP. There is no bounds to their nepotism. Yet the MSM portray the Hikoi as some sort of organic grass roots movement. No. It is just another branch of John (my brother is a rapist and murderer) Tamihere and the Tea-Parti. Interestingly, in this fluff piece story on the Hikoi leader by Stuffed, he answers his own question, but doesn't even realise it. The headline is that these kids he went to school with had no lunches and no shoes. The story then goes on about how he had both parents in the home and they both worked. Then it turns out that the kids with no lunches or shoes were all the kids of gang members. The Hikoi leader states he was lucky, and why the great divide between haves and have nots? Apparently these other kids looked just like him (brown, I assume). Perhaps if there parents went to work as well they could have had lunches and shoes? Just an idea. www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360483715/hikoi-leader-eru-kapa-kingi-they-had-no-shoes-no-lunches-i-wanted-know-why |
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