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Post by ComfortZone on Aug 15, 2023 20:50:01 GMT 12
why Australia will always be wealthier than NZ thebfd.co.nz/2023/08/15/wealth-has-to-be-grown-or-dug-up-first/That doesn’t stop inner city green-left types from incessantly screeching about “fossil fuel subsidies” as they park their Tesla in the garage of their leafy mansion with solar panels from China on the roof.
The hypocrisy is so blatant that even the Albanese Labor government feels obliged to point it out.
Resources Minister Madeleine King has issued the Albanese government’s strongest defence yet of the regions and energy and resources sectors, including coal and gas, declaring many east coast urban Australians have lost sight of where their food, prosperity and energy come from.
Labor at least realises that it’s going to depend heavily on the resources states, Queensland and WA, if it wants to cling to government. But it also has to deal with party rank and file Climate Cultists, who are implacably hostile to the mining industry. |
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Post by jim on Aug 18, 2023 20:09:51 GMT 12
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Post by em on Aug 19, 2023 9:08:32 GMT 12
I often think that too but apparently we sold the rights to our oil a very long time ago . UK Mother in law was born in wellignton , she’s 76 . Her father was an engineer with BP and was here on oil related business . So I guess Chris Lux or David Seymour would need to tell the Oil companies to politely bugger off , buy the rigs and supporting infrastructure , spend some time in court with the pissed off oil companies then find out that our oil is sweet and light so we need a new refinery as well . Not sure what the rationale was in the 60s to build a refinery suited to heavy imported oils ? Most probably price driven . |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 21, 2023 16:35:15 GMT 12
Oh hell yes.
I was chatting to my Livestock man last Tuesday and he reckons 90% of dairy farms, if not more, won't make a cent this year, many won't have for quite a few years. Any gain they get will be via capital gains only. Probably explains why so many have such high debt.
Now having some closer knowledge of beef I can't think of a way we could earn big bucks on only 150 acres. By big bucks I mean a income above the median which is currently around 63K gross. We could but that would involve being very negative to both the beasts and the land, which is not a long term proposition. Luckily we don't have too and beef was never the intended primary crop anyway.
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Post by em on Aug 21, 2023 19:01:42 GMT 12
Oh hell yes.
I was chatting to my Livestock man last Tuesday and he reckons 90% of dairy farms, if not more, won't make a cent this year, many won't have for quite a few years. Any gain they get will be via capital gains only. Probably explains why so many have such high debt.
Now having some closer knowledge of beef I can't think of a way we could earn big bucks on only 150 acres. By big bucks I mean an income above the median which is currently around 63K gross. We could but that would involve being very negative to both the beasts and the land, which is not a long term proposition. Luckily we don't have too and beef was never the intended primary crop anyway.
Neighbours have 400 acres of beef next door . Both work other jobs cause the beef doesn’t pay enough , they can’t even afford inputs . So just cruise with two mobs of mixed mongrels and some sheep . |
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Post by fish on Aug 21, 2023 19:47:43 GMT 12
I see SAFE (save animals from exploitation) did a media piece in the weekend with photos of sheep standing in mud in Southland.
There was zero animal welfare issues, as confirmed by a Fed Farmers spokesman, but the whole article was going on about winter grazing and how bad it was etc etc.
I feel compelled to violence toward the Safe vegans when I see our food producers being bullied like that. It is just nonsense. City dwellers lecturing country folk on their perception of animal welfare standards, and all thinking food comes from the supermarket and farmers are just a blight on the landscape.
I'm still fucked off about the price of eggs. All the vegans telling me what I can and can't eat - no battery hens cause it's mean blah blah.
And including agriculture in the ETS is just batshitcrazy. Cow farts can never match air travel. Or a steel mill. Or all of India.
We have the best food producers in the world, and we (our govt) is running them into the ground. I can't wait for October.
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Post by eri on Aug 22, 2023 15:20:23 GMT 12
Eggs in Japan about 280yen for 10, that's about half NZ prices
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Post by GO30 on Aug 22, 2023 15:55:52 GMT 12
Oh hell yes.
I was chatting to my Livestock man last Tuesday and he reckons 90% of dairy farms, if not more, won't make a cent this year, many won't have for quite a few years. Any gain they get will be via capital gains only. Probably explains why so many have such high debt.
Now having some closer knowledge of beef I can't think of a way we could earn big bucks on only 150 acres. By big bucks I mean an income above the median which is currently around 63K gross. We could but that would involve being very negative to both the beasts and the land, which is not a long term proposition. Luckily we don't have too and beef was never the intended primary crop anyway.
Neighbours have 400 acres of beef next door . Both work other jobs cause the beef doesn’t pay enough , they can’t even afford inputs . So just cruise with two mobs of mixed mongrels and some sheep . I have no problem at all believing that and thinking it's common. Most of the farms up our way have one or more working off it to pay the bills.
Our direct neighbours son does 150 odd beefies out the back of dads 700 acres yet he spends his days fencing. Dad recently sold his dairy herd to a share milker across the road as he reckons the income does not justify the effort. The dude across the road is up to 525 head. Imagine over milking 1000 a day when at full pace, that's hard yakka.
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Post by GO30 on Aug 22, 2023 16:05:17 GMT 12
I see SAFE (save animals from exploitation) did a media piece in the weekend with photos of sheep standing in mud in Southland. There was zero animal welfare issues, as confirmed by a Fed Farmers spokesman, but the whole article was going on about winter grazing and how bad it was etc etc. I feel compelled to violence toward the Safe vegans when I see our food producers being bullied like that. It is just nonsense. City dwellers lecturing country folk on their perception of animal welfare standards, and all thinking food comes from the supermarket and farmers are just a blight on the landscape. I'm still fucked off about the price of eggs. All the vegans telling me what I can and can't eat - no battery hens cause it's mean blah blah. And including agriculture in the ETS is just batshitcrazy. Cow farts can never match air travel. Or a steel mill. Or all of India. We have the best food producers in the world, and we (our govt) is running them into the ground. I can't wait for October. While all my paddocks have OK grass and are very green the race is a muddy bog as we've been unable to get trucks with lime in. Also with all the wet I'm sticking to the race to save chewing up the paddocks so the race had had a hammering.
If I stood just right I could take a photo of some calves looking balls deep in mud just like that sheep photo. While it would look horrendous it would be nothing more than bullshit marketing.
Next month is the Paparoa Possum Purge, 3 days of hell unleashed on the beady eyed little fuckers all around the neighbourhood, it sounds like down town Afghanistan in the evenings. All then go to the local school who pluck them and sell the fir. Last year was very quiet due to covid etc but the school still scored 20K. The lads are gearing up to release their inner Kraken for the school. Can you pluck a Vegan?... just asking with nothing specific in mind  |
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Post by ComfortZone on Aug 29, 2023 9:43:37 GMT 12
from Kiwi Blog www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/08/imf_thinks_our_growth_will_be_the_lowest_in_the_world.htmlIMF thinks our growth will be the lowest in the world!
Robert MacCulloch writes: www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/new-imf-data-ranks-nz-as-worst-gdp-growth-out-of-159-nations-in-world-along-with-equatorial-guinea
The newly released IMF Regional Economic Outlooks say NZ is projected to be the worst performing economy in the entire world in 2024 in terms of GDP growth, with one exception, Equatorial Guinea, which has been ripped apart by civil war. No other time in our history has NZ been bottom of the planet.
The details? NZ is projected to be in & out of recession at 0.8% GDP growth in 2024. Growth for 34 asia-Pacific nations is expected to be way higher, averaging 4.4% (see links below). The IMF Outlook for Western Hemisphere has figures for North & South America. NZ is bottom out of those 36 sovereign nations. (Puerto Rico is the only place worse, but it's a territory). The figures for 45 nations in Western & Eastern Europe again rank NZ bottom, with italy.
This may be Labour's legacy – growth alongside Equatorial Guinea! |
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Post by Cantab on Aug 29, 2023 11:25:14 GMT 12
Can we clock this up to another Go Woke, Go Broke
Add it to the real world list of failed communist experiments?
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Post by harrytom on Aug 29, 2023 13:38:44 GMT 12
Oh hell yes.
I was chatting to my Livestock man last Tuesday and he reckons 90% of dairy farms, if not more, won't make a cent this year, many won't have for quite a few years. Any gain they get will be via capital gains only. Probably explains why so many have such high debt.
Now having some closer knowledge of beef I can't think of a way we could earn big bucks on only 150 acres. By big bucks I mean a income above the median which is currently around 63K gross. We could but that would involve being very negative to both the beasts and the land, which is not a long term proposition. Luckily we don't have too and beef was never the intended primary crop anyway.
Only those with Fonterra,others that have switched to Open Country seem to be getting higher pay outs not sure about Synlait in pokeno. |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 30, 2023 19:55:07 GMT 12
Oh hell yes.
I was chatting to my Livestock man last Tuesday and he reckons 90% of dairy farms, if not more, won't make a cent this year, many won't have for quite a few years. Any gain they get will be via capital gains only. Probably explains why so many have such high debt.
Now having some closer knowledge of beef I can't think of a way we could earn big bucks on only 150 acres. By big bucks I mean a income above the median which is currently around 63K gross. We could but that would involve being very negative to both the beasts and the land, which is not a long term proposition. Luckily we don't have too and beef was never the intended primary crop anyway.
Only those with Fonterra,others that have switched to Open Country seem to be getting higher pay outs not sure about Synlait in pokeno. They all sell into the same markets so 'per annum' there isn't a massive difference I'm told. The biggest difference is when they payout, Open Country do it each month I believe. |
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Post by Cantab on Sept 5, 2023 21:06:17 GMT 12
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Post by em on Sept 10, 2023 6:26:09 GMT 12
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