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Jan 18, 2022 20:17:47 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jan 18, 2022 20:17:47 GMT 12
Anyone found any this season?
Thinking about Coro & Mercs and wondering (1) if there’s anything around and (2) if it’s allowed not covered by the ban around Waiheke?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 3:44:50 GMT 12
Anyone found any this season? Thinking about Coro & Mercs and wondering (1) if there’s anything around and (2) if it’s allowed not covered by the ban around Waiheke? Total ban "Opito bay area"
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Post by GO30 on Jan 20, 2022 18:49:55 GMT 12
If I see you using one of those tyne type dredges I will thrash you into near oblivion with a 'strongly worded' post.
The floppy front ones are fine as are your own hands but bugger me the number of tiny scallop shells I run into with 10mm holes punched i them is just seriouly wrong.
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Jan 20, 2022 21:41:39 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jan 20, 2022 21:41:39 GMT 12
If I see you using one of those tyne type dredges I will thrash you into near oblivion with a 'strongly worded' post. The floppy front ones are fine as are your own hands but bugger me the number of tiny scallop shells I run into with 10mm holes punched i them is just seriouly wrong. I hate dredges. I’ve only ever caught scallops with my own hands & lungs. In fact I think scuba scalloping & crayfishing should be banned - do it naturally or not at all is my view.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:45:51 GMT 12
www.mpi.govt.nz/dmsdocument/50542-Minister-for-Oceans-and-Fisheries-decision-letter-Review-of-sustainability-measures-for-selected-fish-stocks-April-2022-roundThe customary allowance will remain unchanged at 7.5 tonnes to recognise that customary fishing is not prohibited under a section 11 closure. Within the two open areas, both commercial and recreational take will continue to be permitted. I acknowledge there are views that the method of dredging should be completely removed, however there is not currently a viable alternative to dredging for commercial scallop fisheries. As such, dredging, both commercial and recreational, will be permitted to continue in the two open areas. I have decided to use sustainability measures provided for in section 11 of the Fisheries Act 1996 to implement closures of all of SCA 1 and most of SCA CS to the harvest of scallops. I have also decided to make changes to the TAC, allowances and TACC for both stocks.
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Post by fish on Mar 30, 2022 21:18:02 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 1:18:56 GMT 12
Kina barron is more due to the fact that the big snaper have gone rather than crays,correct functionally extinct
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Post by fish on Mar 31, 2022 9:11:23 GMT 12
Kina barron is more due to the fact that the big snaper have gone rather than crays,correct functionally extinct Yes, snapper over-fishing is the leading cause of kina barren. But what else eat kina? As far as I know, it's snapper and cray. It all contributes. If the big snapper were gone, but there were still crays about, at least something would be keeping the kina down. I heard an argument once (possibly on that other website) that we don't need a ban on cray gathering in the Gulf, cause no one can ever find them to gather them Most everyone agree cray are functionally extinct (accept the commercial fisho's who know where to find them out by Barrier). So it is beyond me why we don't give them more protection. They are a fundamental part of the ecosystem. I'm not sure people understand what a kina barren is, or what the implications are. People think it is somewhere there are no kina... For those that don't know, a kina barren is where the kina explode in numbers and eat everything in the area, dessimating the environment. Primarily, they eat all of the seaweeds and kelp forests so there is nowhere for nursery fish to hide. Which mean the fish stocks collapse in that area. You are left with bare rocks, instead of rocks with seaweed and kelp, sea-grasses and slimes, so no paroae, no spotties, no juvenile fish, no big fish chasing the little fish, no nothing...
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Scallops
Mar 31, 2022 15:30:04 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Mar 31, 2022 15:30:04 GMT 12
Are kina native or invasive?
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Post by fish on Mar 31, 2022 16:01:25 GMT 12
Are kina native or invasive? Native. Precious to Maori, being a Toanga species. As such, there is a catch limit on them as well, 50 / day. Where the eco-system is in balance, the kina are much harder to find, and they are fat and juicy. In a kina barren, the edible part inside the kina is skinny to non-existent, and it is a bit of a waste of time gathering them for food. I reckon every fisho (me included) should have to catch 50 kina for every snapper we land. So far, I'm keeping my end of the bargain by being the most hopeless fisho, and not landing any snapper... It is high on my list to go and get kina (or to smash my quota) first chance I get when out on the boat, snorkelling and spot kina barren.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 11:07:32 GMT 12
Being an avid fisherman. I would totally support a fishing ban within the Hauraki gulf for 5 yrs,yes thats all it would take but it would put pressure on other areas.So my thinking is no fishing within 1 mile of any shoreline or out lying island. Will be tough on the small boat fisherman but if we are serious about saving the remaining stock drastic action needs to be taken or reduced limit and increased snapper size + a season being outside of spawning,April to October.Maybe a licence to help get more fishery officers?
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Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 2, 2022 11:27:01 GMT 12
I'm a hopeless fisho ! But we catch enough when we're sailing Coromandel / Barrier. We only take enough for 2 nights and no freezing fillets.I'd say reduce limits toall if there is really a shortage. And that's everyone. Commercial/ Recreation? and do away with that Maori can take what they want when they want crap. If the fishery gets wiped out I can't see how a preferential system helps any of them
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Post by Fogg on Apr 2, 2022 12:26:49 GMT 12
I agree with more severe restrictions or even a complete ban on some species althoughwill never happen here in the City of Tinnies. Meanwhile, how do you best respond when a good friend boastfully sends you a picture like this after an hour’s fishing?
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Post by fish on Apr 2, 2022 12:33:31 GMT 12
Meanwhile, how do you best respond when a good friend boastfully sends you a picture like this after an hour’s fishing? <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> That is a good question. I regularly see people boasting about the crays they've caught on a spearfishing FB page. I just look at them and think why? Just leave them in the ocean. Haven't worked out how to broach that subject yet... Maybe I shouldn't hang out on hunter-gather type pages and wonder why they are plundering everything?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 12:49:40 GMT 12
shallow water 3 m 3 minutes from kawakawa bay ramp last Sunday
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