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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 9:55:06 GMT 12
Your inability to read is astounding. What I am doing is calling you out on your ethnic slur. Calling out your inability to simply write Xi Jinping. Holding you accountable for your actions on a public forum. are you defending China's leader and his behaviour! I am comfortable with my so called racial slurs cunningly disguised as humour .I hope you are comfortable with defending a murdering, over bearing dictatorship No, I am not comfortable with what's going on in China. Not in the slightest. I am not defending him. I am attacking your inability to use his real name in a public forum. |
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Mar 1, 2022 10:15:32 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 10:15:32 GMT 12
are you defending China's leader and his behaviour! I am comfortable with my so called racial slurs cunningly disguised as humour .I hope you are comfortable with defending a murdering, over bearing dictatorship No, I am not comfortable with what's going on in China. Not in the slightest. I am not defending him. I am attacking your inability to use his real name in a public forum. you just don't get it do you If I use his, or any Murderous Assholes name, I am showing them respect. They are not worthy of my respect just like Horscinda/Horse Face/ Cindy/ JabCinda/ Donkey Chops isn't. Respect is earned not demanded. It is measured as a result of ones actions not words. And ... Leaders that fuck up society should be held accountable in the future not handed cruisy jobs like Jabcinda will be Respect is not a title!. Ardern has a title I respect but as a leader I cannot respect the mis truths, the spin, the deciept, the unmandated policies ( yet she mandates a Jab), the lack of leadership when protesters ( remember she was a rabid one in her socialist red leftie past) until she fronts up to her bullshit. By the way Mr China. . Why pick on my bagging of Zing fling and not Pootin... Me thinks you are two faced. |
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Mar 1, 2022 11:00:36 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Mar 1, 2022 11:00:36 GMT 12
Putin recently said, if a fight is inevitable, you must attack first
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Post by GO30 on Mar 1, 2022 11:01:23 GMT 12
I really don't want social cohesion that is mandated by self appointed elites. Social cohesion is not a state when everyone does what they are told without dissent. Moral and social judgement has a habit of changing over time and biting those that judge. So you want to leave this to the government to legislate and enforce? Please advise what you think the Government should do to stop the use of racial slurs on this forum? The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from.
But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race. It is not a Government of cohesion, it is Government who is proud to be divisive, it is proud to telling it's citizens to shit over their fellow citizens, it is proud to be racist.
The current Govt spent years shouting to all NZers 'watch out for the sneaky Chinese man, sneaky chinese man bad'. Sure they ignored the fact they also have a sneaky chinese man but all a lot of the hard working too busy trying to put food on the table population just kept hearing 'sneaky chinese man bad'. Then of course add in our media who commonly put down china and it's leadership, sometimes with justification but often just due to 'western world' basis
If the supposed 'leaders', the influencers as many call them, keep wapping on as they certainly have 'chinese man bad' and 'chinese government extra bad', it's a tad rich to blame those who follow their supposed leaders lead.
The add in the Govts ability to just totaly ignore the wishes of it's constituents, as we see far too often these days, expecting Trevor Hopepa, a nobody from Howgivesafuckville, to make change is patently ridiculous.
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ukraine
Mar 1, 2022 11:33:41 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 11:33:41 GMT 12
Putin recently said, if a fight is inevitable, you must attack first was the fight inevitable?... Nato Nope, Ukraine nope!.. only in Pootins mindm. Thats just immature boxing lingo. if a fight is inevitable, you must understand why and seek to resolve it first first. |
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Mar 1, 2022 11:34:21 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 11:34:21 GMT 12
So you want to leave this to the government to legislate and enforce? Please advise what you think the Government should do to stop the use of racial slurs on this forum? The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from.
But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race. It is not a Government of cohesion, it is Government who is proud to be divisive, it is proud to telling it's citizens to shit over their fellow citizens, it is proud to be racist.
The current Govt spent years shouting to all NZers 'watch out for the sneaky Chinese man, sneaky chinese man bad'. Sure they ignored the fact they also have a sneaky chinese man but all a lot of the hard working too busy trying to put food on the table population just kept hearing 'sneaky chinese man bad'. Then of course add in our media who commonly put down china and it's leadership, sometimes with justification but often just due to 'western world' basis
If the supposed 'leaders', the influencers as many call them, keep wapping on as they certainly have 'chinese man bad' and 'chinese government extra bad', it's a tad rich to blame those who follow their supposed leaders lead.
The add in the Govts ability to just totaly ignore the wishes of it's constituents, as we see far too often these days, expecting Trevor Hopepa, a nobody from Howgivesafuckville, to make change is patently ridiculous.
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Mar 1, 2022 12:03:20 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 12:03:20 GMT 12
So you want to leave this to the government to legislate and enforce? Please advise what you think the Government should do to stop the use of racial slurs on this forum? The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from.
But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race. It is not a Government of cohesion, it is Government who is proud to be divisive, it is proud to telling it's citizens to shit over their fellow citizens, it is proud to be racist.
The current Govt spent years shouting to all NZers 'watch out for the sneaky Chinese man, sneaky chinese man bad'. Sure they ignored the fact they also have a sneaky chinese man but all a lot of the hard working too busy trying to put food on the table population just kept hearing 'sneaky chinese man bad'. Then of course add in our media who commonly put down china and it's leadership, sometimes with justification but often just due to 'western world' basis
If the supposed 'leaders', the influencers as many call them, keep wapping on as they certainly have 'chinese man bad' and 'chinese government extra bad', it's a tad rich to blame those who follow their supposed leaders lead.
The add in the Govts ability to just totaly ignore the wishes of it's constituents, as we see far too often these days, expecting Trevor Hopepa, a nobody from Howgivesafuckville, to make change is patently ridiculous.
I have no issue with anyone calling China bad and I have no issue with anyone calling Xi Jinping bad or even sneaky. I take issue at the use of an unnecessary ethnic slur. As far as I am aware, neither the Government nor the media, use ethnic slurs when describing the actions of China or its people. I would agree with your argument, that if the Government are doing it, and people looked up to that Government for leadership. Then it could be expected that those people would follow the Governments lead. To this specific point of yours amd I confess I am not replying within the same context:The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from. But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race.But don't they first of all have to right the wrongs of the past 400 years? Don't they have to correct the mistakes that have been made? Don't they need to solve the inequality that current exists and was created by past decisions? If the Crown agreed with you that your land and business was yours. Then the next day came and stole your business and all your land. Then the following day decided that everyone would be equal from now and no more land or businesses will be stolen from tomorrow. Would you even trust them? Would you accept that as OK? I somehow doubt your answers would be yes. Why can't we as people, start fixing the things that we have control over, (eg the use of racial slurs), and mend society from the bottom up while the Government continues with the 1000 year top down journey. |
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Post by GO30 on Mar 1, 2022 12:50:32 GMT 12
Your wondering thru one subject and into the blame game for shit that happened between 2 civilisations and cultures that have not existed on this planet for decades, some would say centuries.
If we have civilizations that no longer exist that we must now 'correct' how they thought, how they operated, their beliefs, their culture, basically correct their total existence into something that didn't exist until 100's of years after they died then why stop at 400 years and why stop with only one specific race? My family got fucked over by the same 'crown' and murdered on mass. Yet I don't didn't bring up my kids telling them they were victims, I didn't beat them senseless with alkythene and blame some pommie git whose been dead for 200 years, I don't run around blaming all my ills on some mob dead for 100's of years and I don't fuck over others just for my personal gain by using race.
I was in Cambodia just as Covid kicked off. Cambodia where during Pol Pots shortish reign over 1/3 of Cambodians, many millions of them, were murdered and most in some horrendously vile manner. We hooked up with a local dude a mate knew, dude was 50 something, to show us Phnom Penh, the killing fields, amongst other things. Anyway we walked in to one of the killing fields and yes it had that very noticeable icky nasty feeling, the same as I got walking thru the gates of Dachau, and sat with Dude a bit. He held up his cellphone and it had a picture of a 50 something Cambodian dude on it. Dude, quite quietly, said 'I used to spend time with this man...but then I found out he was a leader of the Khmer Rouge, we don't talk any longer'. The way he said it in a sad quiet voice and the look in his eyes as he said it I can see clear as day as I write this, I found it very.... I dunno the word but it had a unusually large impact on me at the time and still does. We went on to see the extreme nasty that went on in the fields, back to the school they used as a prison, the one where the NZer and Aussies got tortured, the photos are all there and very graphic. It was a confronting day in many ways.
Later in the evening he invited us to his home dinner, it was spectacular. During the evening I asked him 'So how is it the Cambodian people know of all these Khmer Rouge people are walking the streets today but no one goes after them?', dude replied 'I go take out the man who I used to regard as a mate as he was a senior Khmer Rouge so undoubtedly had a hand in killing people I know and loved. Then what happens? His son has to them take me out. Then what happens? My son has to go and take his son out. Then his son goes after his son'
Then he quietly said 'Where does it stop?'
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Mar 1, 2022 13:01:48 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 13:01:48 GMT 12
Your wondering thru one subject and into the blame game for shit that happened between 2 civilisations and cultures that have not existed on this planet for decades, some would say centuries. If we have civilizations that no longer exist that we must now 'correct' how they thought, how they operated, their beliefs, their culture, basically correct their total existence into something that didn't exist until 100's of years after they died then why stop at 400 years and why stop with only one specific race? My family got fucked over by the same 'crown' and murdered on mass. Yet I don't didn't bring up my kids telling them they were victims, I didn't beat them senseless with alkythene and blame some pommie git whose been dead for 200 years, I don't run around blaming all my ills on some mob dead for 100's of years and I don't fuck over others just for my personal gain by using race. I was in Cambodia just as Covid kicked off. Cambodia where during Pol Pots shortish reign over 1/3 of Cambodians, many millions of them, were murdered and most in some horrendously vile manner. We hooked up with a local dude a mate knew, dude was 50 something, to show us Phnom Penh, the killing fields, amongst other things. Anyway we walked in to one of the killing fields and yes it had that very noticeable icky nasty feeling, the same as I got walking thru the gates of Dachau, and sat with Dude a bit. He held up his cellphone and it had a picture of a 50 something Cambodian dude on it. Dude, quite quietly, said 'I used to spend time with this man...but then I found out he was a leader of the Khmer Rouge, we don't talk any longer'. The way he said it in a sad quiet voice and the look in his eyes as he said it I can see clear as day as I write this, I found it very.... I dunno the word but it had a unusually large impact on me at the time and still does. We went on to see the extreme nasty that went on in the fields, back to the school they used as a prison, the one where the NZer and Aussies got tortured, the photos are all there and very graphic. It was a confronting day in many ways. Later in the evening he invited us to his home dinner, it was spectacular. During the evening I asked him 'So how is it the Cambodian people know of all these Khmer Rouge people are walking the streets today but no one goes after them?', dude replied 'I go take out the man who I used to regard as a mate as he was a senior Khmer Rouge so undoubtedly had a hand in killing people I know and loved. Then what happens? His son has to them take me out. Then what happens? My son has to go and take his son out. Then his son goes after his son' Then he quietly said 'Where does it stop?' loving your work today G. |
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Mar 1, 2022 13:18:13 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 13:18:13 GMT 12
The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from.
But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race. It is not a Government of cohesion, it is Government who is proud to be divisive, it is proud to telling it's citizens to shit over their fellow citizens, it is proud to be racist.
The current Govt spent years shouting to all NZers 'watch out for the sneaky Chinese man, sneaky chinese man bad'. Sure they ignored the fact they also have a sneaky chinese man but all a lot of the hard working too busy trying to put food on the table population just kept hearing 'sneaky chinese man bad'. Then of course add in our media who commonly put down china and it's leadership, sometimes with justification but often just due to 'western world' basis
If the supposed 'leaders', the influencers as many call them, keep wapping on as they certainly have 'chinese man bad' and 'chinese government extra bad', it's a tad rich to blame those who follow their supposed leaders lead.
The add in the Govts ability to just totaly ignore the wishes of it's constituents, as we see far too often these days, expecting Trevor Hopepa, a nobody from Howgivesafuckville, to make change is patently ridiculous.
I have no issue with anyone calling China bad and I have no issue with anyone calling Xi Jinping bad or even sneaky. I take issue at the use of an unnecessary ethnic slur. As far as I am aware, neither the Government nor the media, use ethnic slurs when describing the actions of China or its people. I would agree with your argument, that if the Government are doing it, and people looked up to that Government for leadership. Then it could be expected that those people would follow the Governments lead. To this specific point of yours amd I confess I am not replying within the same context:The Government could create a society where everyone is treated with equal respect and in a equal manner no matter who they are or where they come from.  But sadly at the moment ours seems to thrive on division, abuse, ignorance and in NZ most of all race.But don't they first of all have to right the wrongs of the past 400 years? Don't they have to correct the mistakes that have been made? Don't they need to solve the inequality that current exists and was created by past decisions? If the Crown agreed with you that your land and business was yours. Then the next day came and stole your business and all your land. Then the following day decided that everyone would be equal from now and no more land or businesses will be stolen from tomorrow. Would you even trust them? Would you accept that as OK? I somehow doubt your answers would be yes. Why can't we as people, start fixing the things that we have control over, (eg the use of racial slurs), and mend society from the bottom up while the Government continues with the 1000 year top down journey. is Drwright a ethnic slur? Anyway, have you ever heard of " a play on words"...? Also, what's the myopic bias towards my " alternative names" for the Chinese and not the Russians, NZrs... I'm picking Drwright is a under forty political graduate of some far left woke University that brain wash the gullible into the "theory of life" without a practical quotient being allowed. Also I do think the poor sole has cabin fever which has fucked up his rational thinking.... This is a forum where free thinking splashed with a SOH, practical knowledge, and off the cuff comments make the content interesting. This is not a world peace summit with "remits of formalism" and endless Political correctness boring the plebs into gello! If Drwright wants to do right, with all his might, he might want to have the foresight to join the right so he can fight... No, alas I think he is all talk and no action |
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Mar 1, 2022 13:47:26 GMT 12
Post by Cantab on Mar 1, 2022 13:47:26 GMT 12
So ten days in, probably frantically trying to rationalise why it was a good idea.
Not really wanting to admit it was a waste of 10 days of his life for no measurable benefit, that would require too much of a mindset adjustment.
Was the 10 days a net gain or loss to society?
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Mar 1, 2022 15:05:16 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 15:05:16 GMT 12
Who? Putin or Dr wright 😂...
I think Putin will have to answer to the crime of genocide before long.
Drwright just has to answer to himself, but hey what the heck, if we I was in isolation for 10 days, when it will Make no difference (due to the fact he will probably catch covid "on the outside" anyway) I to would go mad!... More angry mad than crazy mad.
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Mar 1, 2022 15:08:27 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 1, 2022 15:08:27 GMT 12
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Mar 1, 2022 20:45:23 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 1, 2022 20:45:23 GMT 12
Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced $50 million, in US dollars, in missiles and ammunition to Ukraine."We're talking missiles, ammunition, we are talking about supporting them in their defence of their homeland. The overwhelming majority of that will be in the lethal category", he said.jacinda meanwhile has probably promised to stop calling putin 'comrade' for awhile www.youtube.com/watch?v=47eOnyDPmc0and has offered to send some money for blankets and helmets
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Post by GO30 on Mar 2, 2022 9:38:00 GMT 12
I'm picking Drwright is a under forty political graduate of some far left woke University that brain wash the gullible into the "theory of life" without a practical quotient being allowed. Coincidently someone suggested to me he/she/it/XYZ/STD/ABC/Whatever the Dr maybe the product of a Uni and specifically one in the South Island.
Being a dumbarse as close as I got to Uni were the Akl Uni engineering Dept piss ups, they were off the charts especially after the chemistry students arrived with their 'experiments'  so no idea what's being seen in the posts to suggest those calls. The coincidence I thought was interesting though.
Watched some clips out of the Ukraine/Russia last evening. I think Putin may have dramatically over estimated the worlds reaction but then is is a cunning fecker and will have seen how the world screams blue murder when things like this kick off but sadly that fades away pretty quickly or when the media decide they want to cover something else instead. So maybe he plans to go in fists flying while copping crap knowing that in a few weeks the world will have moved onto the emerging Zeltnacron variant, the one that makes boobies triple in size, but Putin will have control of the Ukraine. It's not like this is the first time he's done exactly that and the world let him do it.
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so no idea what's being seen in the posts to suggest those calls. The coincidence I thought was interesting though.