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Post by El Toro on Aug 24, 2023 10:03:24 GMT 12
Get hold of the book "One Sun In The Sky"
Worth the read
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Post by fish on Aug 28, 2023 11:32:09 GMT 12
www.nzcpr.com/dangerous-influence/Sort of a summary speech, there are some very detailed analysis on the website of the corruption of the Waitangi Tribunal and revision of history that has occurred in recent times, it is pretty disturbing reading. Speaking of revision of history, I'm surprised there is no mention either in the school curriculum or just in general about all the Maori Cannibalism that was going on pre-colonialism. Maybe they don't want to talk about it? |
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Post by Cantab on Aug 28, 2023 12:07:34 GMT 12
Don't worry, the kids bring it up if the teacher forgets to mention it.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Sept 17, 2023 23:50:04 GMT 12
SEPTEMBER 17, 2023 7:00AM BY DAVID FARRAR Post Freshwater poll on diversity issues The Post has some interesting results on some issues questions asked by Freshwater. The net agreement for each statement is: There should be a referendum on Māori co-governance, to end the confusion and let every New Zealander have a say: +31% Government departments should be known by their English name, not their Māori name: +23% There should be quotas to ensure enough women are represented in parliament and government: +5% There should be quotas to ensure different ethnic groups are represented in parliament and government: -7% Road signage should be written in Māori as well as English: -13% There should be more co-governance with Māori in government decision-making: -17% So much more support than opposition for a referendum on co-governance and referring to government departments by their English name. Mild net support for a gender quota for Parliament and mild net opposition to ethnic quotas. Moderate net opposition to bilingual road signs and more co-governance.  |
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Post by eri on Oct 4, 2023 18:35:58 GMT 12
Labour’s most radical and unpopular agenda during the last three years has been its adoption of co-governance in public services and especially the Three Waters reforms.
The Treaty of Waitangi has been radically reinterpreted, and new bi-cultural governance policies have been advanced as a result, which have been perceived as separatist.
This approach was very different to that taken in Labour’s first term. Back in 2018 both Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson stated an intention to work with a traditional social democratic orientation that would deliver to Māori as part of a universalistic strategy to lift the fortunes of everyone in need, rather than specifically targeting Māori.
Ardern strongly emphasised the need to deal with the long list of social ills that have disproportionately impacted Māori, but said that race-based methods were not the best way of doing so.
However this universal approach was out of favour with Labour’s Māori caucus. After the 2020 election when it came to the much-needed reform of water infrastructure, an attempt was made to do so in a way that would empower iwi leaders.
Chris Trotter has recently explained how Three Waters prevailed within the Government: “The Māori Caucus wanted it because Iwi leaders wanted it, and if they didn’t get it, they might start knocking on Te Pāti Māori’s door. No one else in the Labour caucus proper felt strongly enough about the issue to organise any kind of serious resistance. So, Hipkins allowed Three Waters to be tweaked and re-named, and hoped that the public would be satisfied with a ludicrous name change. They weren’t.”
eveningreport.nz/2023/10/03/bryce-edwards-political-roundup-ten-reasons-labours-support-has-halved/
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Post by Cantab on Oct 23, 2023 16:28:47 GMT 12
Some interesting perspectives, "Decades ago, the Nobel Prize-winning FA Hayek observed the Kafkaesque logic of trying to usher in a more equal society by treating people unequally."
thebfd.co.nz/2023/10/23/what-happens-to-students-with-near-perfect-sat-scores/“The classical demand is that the state ought to treat all people equally in spite of the fact that they are very unequal,” Hayek said. “You can’t deduce from this that because people are unequal, you ought to treat them unequally in order to make them equal. And that’s what social justice amounts to.” |
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Post by fish on Oct 26, 2023 13:30:43 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Oct 27, 2023 11:58:46 GMT 12
Get hold of the book "One Sun In The Sky" Worth the read Arrived yesterday, sadly 150km from where I'm sitting filling in time due to rain and 10,000 volts, as in I need to fiddle with one but I ain't doing that in the wet. |
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Post by GO30 on Oct 27, 2023 12:03:09 GMT 12
The justification for Maori wards, according to Willy racist as fuck Jackson, is if they aren't there Maori won't get a seat at the table.
Sadly Willie prefers the full of shit approach rather than relying on solid information that shows the number of those identifying as Maori on Councils NZ wide and didn't get there via any special racist path, are a higher % then Maori are in society. In other words Willie Jacksons sale pitch is total lies, who would have guess that.
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Post by Cantab on Nov 8, 2023 5:28:15 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Nov 19, 2023 13:05:16 GMT 12
wise words "I think fundamentally, having a political party based on identity can be a challenged space."
She said that while having an indigenous political party is "a positive signal from a country like New Zealand", people also needed to consider its wider implications.
"If we think about the changing diversity of our demographic here in New Zealand, and we have other population groups saying that we want an identity-based political party, we've got to ask ourselves — is that the future we see for New Zealand?
I would've hoped that New Zealand is the kind of country that by and large has a view across the centre of public opinion that asks the big questions.
"Like, 'What kind of country do we want to be, in terms of our national identity? How do we bring Māori, as indigenous people, and the rest of New Zealand closer together rather than further apart? How do we articulate that? What's the constitutional basis for all of that?'"
She said political discussions should focus on those aspects, or risk getting "pulled by extreme opinions".
"We only have to look around the world and see how extreme opinions have dented the fabric of democracy but also dented that sense of nation-building, social inclusion, and respect for greater diversity."
www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/19/nanaia-mahuta-why-i-didnt-join-te-pati-maori/ |
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 19, 2023 13:28:56 GMT 12
wise words "I think fundamentally, having a political party based on identity can be a challenged space."
She said that while having an indigenous political party is "a positive signal from a country like New Zealand", people also needed to consider its wider implications.
"If we think about the changing diversity of our demographic here in New Zealand, and we have other population groups saying that we want an identity-based political party, we've got to ask ourselves — is that the future we see for New Zealand?
I would've hoped that New Zealand is the kind of country that by and large has a view across the centre of public opinion that asks the big questions.
"Like, 'What kind of country do we want to be, in terms of our national identity? How do we bring Māori, as indigenous people, and the rest of New Zealand closer together rather than further apart? How do we articulate that? What's the constitutional basis for all of that?'"
She said political discussions should focus on those aspects, or risk getting "pulled by extreme opinions".
"We only have to look around the world and see how extreme opinions have dented the fabric of democracy but also dented that sense of nation-building, social inclusion, and respect for greater diversity."
www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/19/nanaia-mahuta-why-i-didnt-join-te-pati-maori/as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words, and Mahoota the looter has done nothing to bring New Zealanders closer together, on the contrary everything has been about dividing the population |
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Post by GO30 on Nov 19, 2023 15:11:24 GMT 12
wise words "I think fundamentally, having a political party based on identity can be a challenged space."
She said that while having an indigenous political party is "a positive signal from a country like New Zealand", people also needed to consider its wider implications.
"If we think about the changing diversity of our demographic here in New Zealand, and we have other population groups saying that we want an identity-based political party, we've got to ask ourselves — is that the future we see for New Zealand?
I would've hoped that New Zealand is the kind of country that by and large has a view across the centre of public opinion that asks the big questions.
"Like, 'What kind of country do we want to be, in terms of our national identity? How do we bring Māori, as indigenous people, and the rest of New Zealand closer together rather than further apart? How do we articulate that? What's the constitutional basis for all of that?'"
She said political discussions should focus on those aspects, or risk getting "pulled by extreme opinions".
Yet she is actively stopping those conversation happening, as are the maori party and many others.
Political discussions is why we are where we are, we need grown up and the public to make the call, not pollies.
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Post by eri on Nov 19, 2023 16:36:36 GMT 12
presumably she's using her retirement to express the labour party position on the maori party
must sting that her tainui electorate, given the choice of her tainui mana or john tamahiri's inexperienced 19?yo puppet
went with the muppet
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Dec 3, 2023 13:55:56 GMT 12
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