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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 4, 2023 7:48:16 GMT 12
presumably she's using her retirement to express the labour party position on the maori party must sting that her tainui electorate, given the choice of her tainui mana or john tamahiri's inexperienced 19?yo puppet
went with the muppetEspecially after all the things maori were given by Stabcinda, Labour et al. MApril have no loyalty except to money and unsolicited power! The more you give them the less you get. |
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Post by GO30 on Dec 4, 2023 17:52:47 GMT 12
Loved that.
Look at me! Look at me in the windows to my soul. Shut the fuck up! Shut all the way up until you reach the top of Shut Fuck mountain where there are no more fucks ups to shut.
I can see a few people I run into hearing exactly that 
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Post by Fogg on Dec 7, 2023 16:27:19 GMT 12
Some of you may have already seen this:
I have never heard this said as simply or as well…
The folks who are getting the free stuff don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.
And the folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop.
And the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!
Now.. The people who are forcing the people who pay
for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING
the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the
free stuff are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.
So.. The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff and giving them the free stuff in the first place.
We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.
Now understand this.....All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250years after being founded. The reason?
The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.
NZ is such a place.
The number of people now getting free stuff soon will
outnumber the people paying for the free stuff.
Failure to change that spells the end of New Zealand as we know it.
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 14, 2023 7:44:50 GMT 12
a very pertinent tweet  |
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Post by eri on Dec 14, 2023 18:27:41 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 14, 2023 18:30:22 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Dec 14, 2023 20:38:38 GMT 12
You are constantly supporting all this carry-on. All this co-governance, Ti Tiriti and Sovereign State what-not. Do you not understand what you have been advocating for? This is the reality of it. Tuhoe have the closest there is to a Tuhoe Sovereign Nation by taking over full control of that National Park. And now you are surprised when all they want to is burn everything to the ground? |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 14, 2023 20:55:39 GMT 12
You are constantly supporting all this carry-on. All this co-governance, Ti Tiriti and Sovereign State what-not. Do you not understand what you have been advocating for? This is the reality of it. Tuhoe have the closest there is to a Tuhoe Sovereign Nation by taking over full control of that National Park. And now you are surprised when all they want to is burn everything to the ground? As the evidence shows there actions were illegal. Co-governance has nothing to do with it. If the huts were removed when DoC were responsible it would still be illegal. They were removed under Tuhoe, still illegal. They had no authority to remove the huts. The legislative co-governance agreement was clear that Tuhoe had to maintain Te Urewera for everyone. At no point did the agreement give them the power to do this. Also the huts were getting removed and damaged extensively by stealth in Te Urewera long before Tuhoe took over. Even after the injunction was put in place 20 more huts were destroyed by arson. No one is taking responsibility - police are investigating. The co-governace agreement had nothing to do with that - plain and simple two (or more) groups fighting over the same bit of land they have been fighting over for the last 400yrs |
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Post by fish on Dec 14, 2023 21:21:36 GMT 12
You are constantly supporting all this carry-on. All this co-governance, Ti Tiriti and Sovereign State what-not. Do you not understand what you have been advocating for? This is the reality of it. Tuhoe have the closest there is to a Tuhoe Sovereign Nation by taking over full control of that National Park. And now you are surprised when all they want to is burn everything to the ground? As the evidence shows there actions were illegal. Co-governance has nothing to do with it. If the huts were removed when DoC were responsible it would still be illegal. They were removed under Tuhoe, still illegal. They had no authority to remove the huts. The legislative co-governance agreement was clear that Tuhoe had to maintain Te Urewera for everyone. At no point did the agreement give them the power to do this. Also the huts were getting removed and damaged extensively by stealth in Te Urewera long before Tuhoe took over. Even after the injunction was put in place 20 more huts were destroyed by arson. No one is taking responsibility - police are investigating. The co-governace agreement had nothing to do with that - plain and simple two (or more) groups fighting over the same bit of land they have been fighting over for the last 400yrs Mwahahahaha Whatever Duckmaster. Is this what they call mansplaining? |
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 14, 2023 21:21:38 GMT 12
Muck master! Pill ya fucking head outer ya ass!
The DOC leader was a racist, co governance bullshit arangementand he should be fined, imprisoned, and then set fire to and pushed out to sea.
If a white had burned down 25 marae the maoris would do the same. These cunty overindulged privilged maori leaders rob from thier people not just thier money but their mana and pride.
Tme for shane jones, seymour etc to kick these greedy arseholes touch
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 14, 2023 21:27:37 GMT 12
Muck master! Pill ya fucking head outer ya ass! The DOC leader was a racist, co governance bullshit arangementand he should be fined, imprisoned, and then set fire to and pushed out to sea. If a white had burned down 25 marae the maoris would do the same. These cunty overindulged privilged maori leaders rob from thier people not just thier money but their mana and pride. Tme for shane jones, seymour etc to kick these greedy arseholes touch Yep that will work. |
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 14, 2023 21:40:03 GMT 12
Gpod to see your coming arond bro.
Mow nack to your umderpass!
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Post by muzled on Dec 15, 2023 6:44:46 GMT 12
You are constantly supporting all this carry-on. All this co-governance, Ti Tiriti and Sovereign State what-not. Do you not understand what you have been advocating for? This is the reality of it. Tuhoe have the closest there is to a Tuhoe Sovereign Nation by taking over full control of that National Park. And now you are surprised when all they want to is burn everything to the ground? The co-governace agreement had nothing to do with that - plain and simple two (or more) groups fighting over the same bit of land they have been fighting over for the last 400yrs That's the problem though, they've been fighting each other for centuries, and co-governance isn't going to change what is at the end of the day - human nature. Take a listen to Tuku a few months back, telling Ngati Whatua Orakei that they had to go to a whitemans court to get a ruling... www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws20VErIyOU&ab_channel=TeAowithMoana |
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Post by fish on Dec 15, 2023 8:20:54 GMT 12
Muck master! Pill ya fucking head outer ya ass! The DOC leader was a racist, co governance bullshit arangementand he should be fined, imprisoned, and then set fire to and pushed out to sea. If a white had burned down 25 marae the maoris would do the same. These cunty overindulged privilged maori leaders rob from thier people not just thier money but their mana and pride. Tme for shane jones, seymour etc to kick these greedy arseholes touch You don't understand Hugh. The DOC Leader was working in Partnership with Tuhoe, just as the Lord of the Avians required. And burning the huts down can't be illegal, as Tuhoe never seceded Sovereignty, just as the Lord of the Avians tells us, so whiteman's law and whiteman's Courts don't apply to Tuhoe. Duckmaster and all the Chardonnay Socialists don't seem to understand that this is what the Tribal radicals want. They want to tear down all traces of colonialism. They are using these constantly changing interpretations of the Treaty to achieve obscure extreme leftist agenda's that have zero to do with helping regular Maori and all to do with expunging any traces of Colonialism. And don't forget, Tamati Kruger said they were burning the huts because they were a Colonial blight on the landscape. This is what Duckmaster has been arguing for. That he doesn't see or understand that this is the very product of his arguments is just embarrassing. Or ignorant. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 15, 2023 8:53:26 GMT 12
fishAs co-governance obviously isn't a solution you believe can work, how would you solve the problem?
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