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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 13:02:11 GMT 12
NZs biggest C#@ts... 1. Stalinda 2. Hone Hawawira 3. Winston Peters 4. Willie Jackson 5. Trevor Mallard 6. Every Green party member 7. Crim dot Con 8. Hone's mother 9. ... Feel free to add to or subtract from... Let's make a top twenty. hold on!!! We have a new C#$t in the offering,. Kelvin " thicko" Davis... He rockets to number 2✅
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Post by eri on Oct 2, 2022 19:32:40 GMT 12
Yet another poll this week predicts National and Act will win 2023. It's the 20th poll saying that this year.
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The size of Act's possible vote counts in its favour.So does the fact that Seymour apparently isn't hung up on ministerial posts.
If he doesn't get what he wants, he's reportedly happy to walk away, sit on the cross benches and force National to negotiate every piece of legislation.But most importantly, it's clear Act's a lot more prepared for government than National. While Act's been pumping out fully thought-through policy documents, National's been selecting leaders. National's still trying to explain whether it'll cut taxes or not. It is several years behind Act in prep.Even when it does eventually release policy, National probably won't have big ideas. It's a party of managing the status quo with small changes. There's every chance Act will bring many of the policy changes. It doesn't look like National's expecting an assertive Act.Chris Luxon's already ruled out giving Seymour the Finance Minister's job. It's a bold call before even knowing how the chips will fall.
He's also ruled out a co-governance referendum. Awkwardly, the referendum is a bottom line for Act.
National's behaving like it expects a compliant minor party partner. It might need to rethink that. Unless the polls change, Act might have significant power in post-election negotiations.So, it'd pay for all of us to read up on what they're planning. Including National.www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/heather-du-plessis-allan-national-needs-to-watch-its-hand-with-act-holding-the-cards/GVFBYG22RH7TGGQ2QKMCB6ZYTA/
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Post by sabre on Oct 2, 2022 20:31:16 GMT 12
The big concern is if Act and National don't come to an agreement which I suspect may happen. Will Labour/Greens slip back in? Is that what is actually planned? National really don't seem hungry to be in government or to represent thd majority of NZers. Overall they do seem happy to push forward with the UN/WEF agenda...
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Post by eri on Oct 2, 2022 21:05:26 GMT 12
i think the suggestion is that ACT could work with national to form a gov. for normal supply issues
but not guarantee to support any new bills national come up with
something similar too but looser than winstone1st's deal with labour
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Post by sabre on Oct 2, 2022 21:16:31 GMT 12
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Post by jim on Oct 2, 2022 22:09:30 GMT 12
From your link... "Thinking people know we have been betrayed by the media, and we will continue to be betrayed as long as the weak submissive bunch of invertebrates who pose as our opposition parties cower to the corrupt imposters at TV One, Newshub, Stuff, The NZ Herald, Radio New Zealand and other outlets" I like the way the writer puts his/her point of view across, and sadly i also see this as our predicament. this is why i am very hesitant to pin hopes on Luxon and to a lesser degree ACT... South America? Queensland? or just go sailing?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2022 2:43:54 GMT 12
If Pita Sharples and Tariana Turia were still the Maori party the Nats would of bolted home. But the Maoris couldnt/wouldnt support the party and Labour relaunched their Maori candidates.
NZ first(Peters) knew he had to go labour,only chance of being deputy PM or if held the country to ransom possibly PM.
Luxon will possibly get rolled before next election and Collins might find her balls/teeth in hubbies bag and start using them.
Snap Election tomorrow, Hmm . check forecast might a good day to go sailing.
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Post by sabre on Oct 3, 2022 6:15:14 GMT 12
From your link... "Thinking people know we have been betrayed by the media, and we will continue to be betrayed as long as the weak submissive bunch of invertebrates who pose as our opposition parties cower to the corrupt imposters at TV One, Newshub, Stuff, The NZ Herald, Radio New Zealand and other outlets" I like the way the writer puts his/her point of view across, and sadly i also see this as our predicament. this is why i am very hesitant to pin hopes on Luxon and to a lesser degree ACT... South America? Queensland? or just go sailing? My suggestion is to go sailing and hope that people will continue to wake up to the fact that unelected elites outside of our country are driving our policies. Then hopefully they will grow a pair and stand up to them as the Dutch farmers etc have. Its impossible to convince people of what is going on, they need to see it for themselves. I have faith that it will happen but things will need to get fairly ugly before it gets to that point. As compliant as many people are I just don't think the western world will accept the authoratarian socialist dystopia we are heading towards.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Oct 3, 2022 6:40:24 GMT 12
Yeah...another party is just what NZ needs. A right wing party too that will further split the vote and ensure the bimbo's return. Maybe they're even promoting that blogsite like the breweries funded the temperance league. What NZ has to have is what happened in Akld. mayoralty contest. Less participants tocrush the communist lead government
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Post by eri on Oct 12, 2022 8:25:43 GMT 12
just imagine co-governance with people like tamihere running it a set of loose make-it-uo-as-we-go-along laws for maori and tight restrictive law for all other races Regulator alleges Waipareira donation was 'serious wrongdoing'
In November 2020, Charities Services shared an "investigation report" with Waipareira about the donation and issued the charity a formal warning notice "on the grounds that we considered the trust had engaged in conduct that constituted serious wrongdoing".
.. Tamihere's response to the Herald was: "Go jump in the Lake, White man! [sic]"
Tamihere hosted a Facebook Live broadcast from Waipareira and Māori Party pages where he alleged media scrutiny of the charities was "racist" and a "pogrom". "To pretend that we can't use Māori money to advance Māori interests politically is a totalitarian state," he said.
so can chinese? use chinese money to advance chinese interests again nz law? Sue Barker, principal of boutique law firm CharitiesLaw, said the restriction was near-universal.
"I went through all comparable jurisdictions and every single jurisdiction recognises this political prohibition," she said.
"It's not unusual and New Zealand is not out of step with the rest of the common law world."
Jane Norton, a senior lecturer in charities law at Auckland University...
"In my view this issue is way more black and white. This isn't even a grey area," she said of Waipareira's campaign funding.
Barker said Charities Services had only one option.
"I don't see there is any option but to apply the rule," she said.
The next step from Charities Services, if it continued to see political donations as amounting to serious wrongdoing and Waipareira remained in dispute, was deregistration — a move she described as "the nuclear option".
Barker said this would see Waipareira lose its tax-free status and immediately incur income tax levied across its net assets. www.nzherald.co.nz/business/regulator-alleges-waipareira-donation-was-serious-wrongdoing/WXZAHYQQXOBYP5TRZHKOWNKIA4/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 13:15:23 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Oct 26, 2022 19:12:00 GMT 12
Here is a stunning example of how co-governance works. Hundreds gather in Tūhoe country to protest 'desecration' of back country huts The below extract is from Tuhoe Kamatua “All we have heard is they want all DOC huts gone, because according to them, they're a colonised construct on our landscape,” the letter said. “This is the ‘scorched earth policy’ being repeated ... by a minority of our people, with your blessing.” The letter continued: “So, when the huts are gone, and we don't want any more colonial influences, that only leaves us one option and that is for us revert to living in tree trunks and caves in Te Urewera.” www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/300720859/hundreds-gather-in-thoe-country-to-protest-desecration-of-back-country-huts
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 2:51:09 GMT 12
No problem "Fish" if Tuhoe want to live and restore land pre European.Cut off funding/Govt benefits/power/water. Build a Electric fence around their boundary to contain them. Those that choose to leave can on the understanding that they cannot return to Tuhoe and must live the lives of every New Zealander.Be law obiding citizens.
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Post by sabre on Oct 27, 2022 7:08:20 GMT 12
Here is a stunning example of how co-governance works. Hundreds gather in Tūhoe country to protest 'desecration' of back country huts The below extract is from Tuhoe Kamatua “All we have heard is they want all DOC huts gone, because according to them, they're a colonised construct on our landscape,” the letter said. “This is the ‘scorched earth policy’ being repeated ... by a minority of our people, with your blessing.” The letter continued: “So, when the huts are gone, and we don't want any more colonial influences, that only leaves us one option and that is for us revert to living in tree trunks and caves in Te Urewera.” www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/300720859/hundreds-gather-in-thoe-country-to-protest-desecration-of-back-country-hutsThe TUT management don't have a clue. Feeding in a trough full of crown dollars while spitting hate about colonists. Pest control has stopped under their management and biodiversity is going backwards. I spent 6 years doing pest control in the Urewera's so I know what was achieved. They are a devisive bunch with an enormous chip on their shoulder.
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Post by muzled on Oct 27, 2022 7:32:55 GMT 12
Isn't that awesome, yet we're somehow meant to believe that because Maori are tangata whenua they automatically care for the land. As has always been the case with any cross section of society, some care, some don't. Some are good buggers, some are not. It's just like Ngai Tahu wanting to put three dairy farms in the Hurunui valley, which is about as suitable to dairying as the McKenzie basin. Fortunately ECan turned them down, but that was before Ngai Tahu got two of their corporate lobbyists on the board of ecan because, well they're tangata whenua and they care about the land. And maybe about adding to their nearly two billion dollars of assets. At any cost by the looks.
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