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Post by Fogg on Nov 15, 2021 20:33:53 GMT 12
I’ve got a funny story about censorship….
Many years ago when I first moved to NZ, I stumbled across Crew.org (it was owned by Zoe in those days) and I thought great! I can connect with those legendary kiwi sailors here and start to learn about local boat designs before I buy etc.
Unfortunately the first thread that caught my eye was an announcement by Zoe that the upcoming Coastal Classic had just won a new sponsorship agreement by HSBC bank.
A couple of days before I’d just had an awful experience trying to open my first NZ bank account with HSBC - and so I stupidly made my first ever post on Crew a warning to other people to avoid HSBC despite their generous new sponsorship. A few minutes later my post had disappeared. And up popped a message from the Editor saying “Welcome to Crew but please don’t publicly criticise our hard-won new sponsor of sailing in NZ!”
So I apologised and carried on and never had another post deleted. Until about 20yrs later in a very different ‘political’ climate!
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Post by eri on Nov 16, 2021 15:44:49 GMT 12
at the moment it seems likely she'll step aside for grant roberston to be pm in 2022
that'll give him a year to 'craft his narrative' before election 2023
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i guess the crew; owner, editor + mods may come here to see what's happening
wonder if they join?
what names would they use?
a fun game to try and spot them!
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Post by armchairadmiral on Nov 16, 2021 15:59:09 GMT 12
Hope so. He'll have the electoral magnetism of Rob Muldoon. But it's more likely the fairy princess will hang on,snout in trough,until next election and then do a Helen Clark and scarper off to the UN and mega $$. Sorry to repeat a post I put up on that other ex website !
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 16, 2021 16:05:56 GMT 12
Hope so. He'll have the electoral magnetism of Rob Muldoon. But it's more likely the fairy princess will hang on,snout in trough,until next election and then do a Helen Clark and scarper off to the UN and mega $$. Sorry to repeat a post I put up on that other ex website ! I don't think she has the mental stamina to last that long, being in politics is like running a marathon, not a sprint, and she is just about ready for a meltdown
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Post by armchairadmiral on Nov 16, 2021 16:55:03 GMT 12
Hope so. He'll have the electoral magnetism of Rob Muldoon. But it's more likely the fairy princess will hang on,snout in trough,until next election and then do a Helen Clark and scarper off to the UN and mega $$. Sorry to repeat a post I put up on that other ex website ! I don't think she has the mental stamina to last that long, being in politics is like running a marathon, not a sprint, and she is just about ready for a meltdown I really really hope you're right
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 17, 2021 15:36:43 GMT 12
so over at Crew, Small Talk with all its history has been eliminated (with one exception, Motorbikes, which ironically I started), how's that for censorship
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Post by elliot749 on Nov 17, 2021 16:12:34 GMT 12
Yes it’s gone from Hero to Zero really quickly, quite abrupt
What’s the saying, go woke go broke !
I love it that Paul Broom quickly removed the post from “E” which had a link to this forum . What a surprise !
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Post by Fogg on Nov 17, 2021 17:13:01 GMT 12
That’s astonishing and a little bit sad.
But hey if this new place fills a replacement need then great - let the party continue here!
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Post by sloopjohnb on Nov 17, 2021 18:38:58 GMT 12
Definitively followed the MOH directive ' Sanitize sanitize and sanitize again.
Started to go down hill when the "Classes" forum was shut down, yes there where some topics that were redundant.....but Radio Sailing....NO.
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Post by Admin on Nov 17, 2021 19:27:22 GMT 12
Ok, so any suggestions for ways to make this place any better then please let the ideas flow - either here or in the Welcome! message pinned at the top.
It’s obviously a simple (single) general forum structure right now which is working fine - but if people feel a small number of topic- specific forums would be better then let’s discuss?
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Post by armchairadmiral on Nov 17, 2021 20:13:59 GMT 12
Yes...the exodus after last weekends censorship debacle was its death knell. There can't be many contributors left. Where's KM. Don't know him but he was always thought provoking and a bit maverick.Can anybody entice him on here?.A small list of specific forums may be good ...OR is it just we're conditioned to that ex site layout
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 17, 2021 21:03:52 GMT 12
He's here already, risen from the ashes as GO30 Another AWOL crew member I have wondered about is Wheels, had not seen him on line for some months. Hopefully HarryTom will come on board soon as well
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Post by Fogg on Nov 17, 2021 21:29:16 GMT 12
Yes...the exodus after last weekends censorship debacle was its death knell. There can't be many contributors left. Where's KM. Don't know him but he was always thought provoking and a bit maverick.Can anybody entice him on here?.A small list of specific forums may be good ...OR is it just we're conditioned to that ex site layout KM is back here with us as GO30 - he’s still super busy right now with his factory relocation + burgeoning order book so only posting here sporadically. But rest assured he’s back. Check out GO30’s posts for tell-take signs of old KM! And he’s still on original form in-person too! 😊
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Post by Fogg on Nov 17, 2021 22:04:28 GMT 12
He's here already, risen from the ashes as GO30 Another AWOL crew member I have wondered about is Wheels, had not seen him on line for some months. Hopefully HarryTom will come on board soon as well Have you sent them a PM with our link to encourage them to take a look here in case they like it? Likewise feel free to invite anyone else who might be interested!
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Post by sloopjohnb on Nov 17, 2021 22:14:15 GMT 12
Great GO30 is here......a real broke calls a spade a spade and many things else.
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