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Post by Bimbo on Aug 3, 2022 15:36:23 GMT 12
The future is no toxins and active non stick surface coatings.
Self ablating films that erode withouts toxins.
If course you could make you own brew...
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Post by Fogg on Dec 13, 2022 16:55:00 GMT 12
Fogg has gone back to black.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 13, 2022 18:34:39 GMT 12
What did you use?
I put Vivid on one of mine. Not overly impressed to be honest.
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Post by Fogg on Dec 13, 2022 19:59:41 GMT 12
Previously tried Vivid White (looked great but terrible performance).
And the Ultra Dover White. Better but still not good enough.
Was needing to lift & wash every 3 months.
Have gone for Sea Barrier 3000 which Hibiscus Marine Coatings tells me is currently giving best performance of all products. Plus it’s one of the cheapest. What’s not to love?
SB3000 only available in red, black or light blue though. Hence back to black for Fogg…
Keep you posted…
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Post by chariot on Dec 14, 2022 9:41:09 GMT 12
Is that ablative or hard. Never had much success with ablative AF's
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Post by sabre on Dec 14, 2022 11:42:59 GMT 12
Looks bloody good in black if you ask me
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Post by Fogg on Dec 14, 2022 13:16:01 GMT 12
Is that ablative or hard. Never had much success with ablative AF's Apparently it is ablative. But like I said HMC (who paint hundreds of different types of boats in every brand of paint type & colour each year) told me that currently Altex Sea Breeze 3000 is giving best performance for boats based out of GH. Vivid and Ultra were both hard but failed to perform. So I’m just following HMC’s advice plus my friend here at GH who has Altex SB3000 (red) is now entering season 2 and is looking like it was painted yesterday.
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Post by Cantab on Dec 14, 2022 14:53:46 GMT 12
Pretty sure this is the last year you can buy sb3000 / No.5
Apparently the greenies want our boats to grow organisms better so they get spread around quicker, not how they put it but the effect is the same.
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Post by Fogg on Dec 14, 2022 16:27:12 GMT 12
Mmmm, wonder ifs a cue to stash a few year’s fwd supply…
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Post by fish on Dec 14, 2022 18:48:16 GMT 12
Is that ablative or hard. Never had much success with ablative AF's Apparently it is ablative. But like I said HMC (who paint hundreds of different types of boats in every brand of paint type & colour each year) told me that currently Altex Sea Breeze 3000 is giving best performance for boats based out of GH. Vivid and Ultra were both hard but failed to perform. So I’m just following HMC’s advice plus my friend here at GH who has Altex SB3000 (red) is now entering season 2 and is looking like it was painted yesterday. I was offered SB3000 when investigating AF's at the end of my last lot of coppercoat. The rep offered my 1/3 off I think it was. In 10l tins. Intended for commercial only, but bascially the same ingredients as #5 I think it was. Anyway, that was the Reps specific recommendation for the Weiti. I had phoned him about some moon-beams expensive new super flash product they were offering. He very honestly said don't bother, go with the cheapest shit we've got, and gave me a big discount off to boot. I don't think he recommended it on price, just that it was the best performing. So I'll be interested how you go Fogg. I'm sure you could aquire a tin or two and sit it in the shed if you like how it goes. I went with CC again, but a large part of that was having to fully remove the old CC layer if we changed systems. It doesn't work that well, but it is hard and I never have to haul out. Dry out on piles at the worst. Or snorkel / dive on it.
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 16, 2022 21:39:08 GMT 12
Apparently it is ablative. But like I said HMC (who paint hundreds of different types of boats in every brand of paint type & colour each year) told me that currently Altex Sea Breeze 3000 is giving best performance for boats based out of GH. Vivid and Ultra were both hard but failed to perform. So I’m just following HMC’s advice plus my friend here at GH who has Altex SB3000 (red) is now entering season 2 and is looking like it was painted yesterday. I was offered SB3000 when investigating AF's at the end of my last lot of coppercoat. The rep offered my 1/3 off I think it was. In 10l tins. Intended for commercial only, but bascially the same ingredients as #5 I think it was. Anyway, that was the Reps specific recommendation for the Weiti. I had phoned him about some moon-beams expensive new super flash product they were offering. He very honestly said don't bother, go with the cheapest shit we've got, and gave me a big discount off to boot. I don't think he recommended it on price, just that it was the best performing. So I'll be interested how you go Fogg. I'm sure you could aquire a tin or two and sit it in the shed if you like how it goes. I went with CC again, but a large part of that was having to fully remove the old CC layer if we changed systems. It doesn't work that well, but it is hard and I never have to haul out. Dry out on piles at the worst. Or snorkel / dive on it. How long did you get out of the CC? I heard the NZ distribution arm had a falling out and are now making their own formula better suited to NZ waters.
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Post by Fogg on Dec 17, 2022 8:31:44 GMT 12
The few people I’ve heard of using CC had biggest problems with poor application of the product - with the contracted painters not being up to scratch. It seems to be a fussy product which can work v well if applied correctly but it’s easy to get it wrong.
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Post by fish on Dec 17, 2022 9:18:17 GMT 12
I was offered SB3000 when investigating AF's at the end of my last lot of coppercoat. The rep offered my 1/3 off I think it was. In 10l tins. Intended for commercial only, but bascially the same ingredients as #5 I think it was. Anyway, that was the Reps specific recommendation for the Weiti. I had phoned him about some moon-beams expensive new super flash product they were offering. He very honestly said don't bother, go with the cheapest shit we've got, and gave me a big discount off to boot. I don't think he recommended it on price, just that it was the best performing. So I'll be interested how you go Fogg. I'm sure you could aquire a tin or two and sit it in the shed if you like how it goes. I went with CC again, but a large part of that was having to fully remove the old CC layer if we changed systems. It doesn't work that well, but it is hard and I never have to haul out. Dry out on piles at the worst. Or snorkel / dive on it. How long did you get out of the CC? I heard the NZ distribution arm had a falling out and are now making their own formula better suited to NZ waters. 7 years. Replaced after 8 years. The 10 yrs life quoted is for cold UK waters. They say 8 yrs in the Tropics / Caribean, so 7/8 yrs around here is a reasonable expectation. It is not great if you want racing hull clean, but it is fine if you want cruising hull clean. It develops a slime layer fairly quickly, couple of weeks, then nothing much else happens for months. It is great for leaving for extended periods of time if you aren't using the boat. Think i didn't clean it for 2 yrs once around when the kids were born (other priorities) and it wasn't really an issue. Sure it needed a clean, but just a heavy slime, not a mussle farm. Super easy to clean in the water or on piles. We have no need to haul out ever. Change the prop anode and service our kiwiprop on the piles. That is where the cost savings and reduced hassle factor of annual haul out and AF application comes in.
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Post by fish on Dec 17, 2022 9:21:28 GMT 12
The few people I’ve heard of using CC had biggest problems with poor application of the product - with the contracted painters not being up to scratch. It seems to be a fussy product which can work v well if applied correctly but it’s easy to get it wrong. We applied ours ourselves both times. It is easy if you know how to read instructions. Don't rush, be conservative and allow contingency time, and choose your weather carefully. Black Panther is still traumatised by the terrible pro application. I think the pros rush, or don't have flexibility on weather because of commercial schedules and clients hard stand fees. Not so much a lack of competence but commercial pressures.
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Post by Cantab on Dec 18, 2022 19:24:30 GMT 12
Mmmm, wonder ifs a cue to stash a few year’s fwd supply… Had a look at it today, they have already changed the ingredients.
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