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Post by Cantab on Oct 10, 2023 6:15:04 GMT 12
Might work if, instead, they give people guns to protect themselves, and their property, could be cheaper. Might as well get rid of the police too, if your not going to prosecute crime why bother investigating it? Feudal rule and private armies, let the market sort it out.
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Post by eri on Oct 12, 2023 18:39:18 GMT 12
no-go northland thanks labour! A family member of the victim told RNZ that their aunt had been hanging out washing when a dog came onto the property and attacked her.
It is believed that the dog was shot by a neighbour before officers arrived.www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/12/one-dead-two-injured-after-reports-of-dog-attack-in-northland/no doubt they will be unable to find the "owner" of this bored? cross-breed? mastiff? so it'll just be swept under-the-rug hope the gun-owner has a licence? the woke judiciary wouldn't like them having an unlicensed weapon for protection
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Post by fish on Oct 12, 2023 20:17:47 GMT 12
no-go northland thanks labour! A family member of the victim told RNZ that their aunt had been hanging out washing when a dog came onto the property and attacked her.
It is believed that the dog was shot by a neighbour before officers arrived.www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/12/one-dead-two-injured-after-reports-of-dog-attack-in-northland/no doubt they will be unable to find the "owner" of this bored? cross-breed? mastiff? so it'll just be swept under-the-rug hope the gun-owner has a licence? the woke judiciary wouldn't like them having an unlicensed weapon for protection It is a lot worse than that. The old lady hanging out washing has been killed by that dog. Sickening.
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Post by eri on Oct 13, 2023 7:06:35 GMT 12
when will labour/greens/maori party take seriously the need to stop the growth of our criminal under-class? "A mother shot at two police officers standing on the side of the road in an effort to help her ram-raiding teenage children avoid arrest as they fled around various Waikato streets.
She messaged her kids soon after saying, “I just shot the pigs”.The 32-year-old woman, who cannot be named in order to protect her children’s identity, then went on to do it again, less than an hour later, firing a shot at a policeman as he spoke with a Bader resident on his front lawn.Two of the woman’s teenage sons, along with nine of their associates, stole vehicles and ram raided the Noel Leeming store in Cambridge on December 19 last year, before targeting the Super Liquor outlet in Te Awamutu a short time later.
The group fled and as they headed towards Hamilton were spotted by police.
The youths in one car ditched their vehicle, which then caught fire, on Rukuhia Rd and they ran into a nearby elderly couple’s house.
Inside, an elderly man was assaulted and threatened before they stole his vehicle and fled. It was again spotted by police and pursued into Hamilton."www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ram-raids-hamilton-mum-admits-shooting-at-police-to-help-kids-escape-arrest/7OLSKGKQBVHCDGQB4YRM6UKAO4/do you think this family is; starving, living in a shanty, never been able to afford to go to school?
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Post by eri on Oct 13, 2023 20:54:31 GMT 12
the suggestion seems to be that the killer dog, was the family's dog
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years ago i heard someone who knew a lot about dangerous breeds say that most owners fundamentally didn't understand them
he said something along the lines that they had a lot of 'wolf' in them, a lot of aggression
and that when they are brought into a family they quickly try to find out where they fit into the family....usually the very bottom, most junior member, like a pup would in a wolf pack
once they know where they are in the family/pack, they learn from the senior members who on the outside is acceptable, friends and family etc
sometime the owners then have a baby, and they spend more time fussing over the baby than they do the dog, this can make the dog feel insecure
it came first, it shouldn't be shunted aside by a new member of the family/pack
and if a dangerous breed gets the chance, it can kill the baby that has challenged its position, that has robbed it of the little attention it used to get
the dog knows it's wrong, and the alphas wouldn't permit it, so it will wait until they are gone, or distracted, before it rushes in to remove the threat to its position
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i wonder if the elderly aunt that was killed by the dog had recently come to stay
and the dangerous dog was jealous of the respect the weak new member of the family was getting
and so it waited until the heads of the family were gone, and then it killed aunty, to remove the new challenger to its position in the family
normal dogs don't do it
but the bigger and more aggressive dogs that are otherwise not well looked after
can
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Post by eri on Oct 16, 2023 18:14:35 GMT 12
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Post by muzled on Oct 16, 2023 18:58:24 GMT 12
Do we need to change the name of this thread to 'Nationals Problem with Crime?
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Post by eri on Oct 16, 2023 20:41:47 GMT 12
the national problem with crime
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Post by harrytom on Oct 16, 2023 22:11:33 GMT 12
ACt problem with crime and I can see no change in the near future,not this term anyway.
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Post by chariot on Oct 17, 2023 8:43:12 GMT 12
First thing to do is get rid of Cuddles Coster.
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Post by fish on Oct 17, 2023 9:13:49 GMT 12
First thing to do is get rid of Cuddles Coster. I would say he is already polishing his CV and casting around for a nice 'consultancy' job. Oh yeah, all those consultancy jobs are getting axed...
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Post by eri on Oct 19, 2023 13:57:06 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Oct 20, 2023 14:09:50 GMT 12
The first thing the new Minster of Plods does, possibly with the Deputy PM, is get on a plane to El Salvador and ask their President how to deal with gangs.
Your average El Salvadoran could not use 30% of the country or cities as the gangs controlled them so enter and be killed, it was pretty much that simple. New President is elected (5 year one off term) on a platform of dealing to the gangs. He came in and less than a year later the gangs had been hammered and the general public got huge swathes of their country and cities back. I spoke to a 42 and 2 x 60 something guys in the Capital who had never seen most of their city as it was not safe to do so, it is now and the President is up there in the seat next to God in the populations eyes, he's got something like 85% approval rate. They, the general public, are calling for him to resign 6 months and 1 day before the election so he can stand again at the next one. Some rule says they must have at least 6 months between terms. Understandably the cleaning process was a little messy if you were a bad dude, be shot dead or put in jail are the only 2 options, but for the general public it was very fast and clean.
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Post by fish on Dec 16, 2023 21:05:15 GMT 12
Now here is something to contrast this entire thread. Police make FIFTEEN arrests at a gang tangi. Could you imagine Ginny Anderson (or any of the other six Labour Minister's for Police) backing the Police to even go near a gang tangi, let alone getting stuck in and making a large number of arrests? Labour have allowed gang tangi's to completely shut down entire towns and highways. National are using them as a target rich environment to catch armed and dangerous criminals. Imagine. And they weren't arrested for tiddlywinks either. Two cut down semi automatic rifles and ammo were seized. Along with knives, knuckledusters and machetes. Three were arrested for failing to appear in Court on previous charges. Labour told them we would be kind. National are telling them you can run, but you can't hide. www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/301028222/15-arrested-as-police-seize-guns-and-knuckledusters-at-gang-tangi-in-whakataneAnd to show the cops are serious, Auckland's Police Eagle helicopter was in Whakatane providing top cover.
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Post by harrytom on Dec 17, 2023 7:08:39 GMT 12
Thats all n good "Fish" police presence and doing what police do,policing,which brings to??Is it a publicly stunt like Crusher and her ONE car that was staged as the car was going to the wreckers anyway.
The police need to keep the pressure on all will just lok weak if they back off. Will make Mark Mitchell look silly after his tough talking.
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