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Post by eri on Dec 21, 2022 16:44:42 GMT 12
letting the homeless live in the central city, drill, drink, take drugs and abuse passers-by is now making it dangerous for even the police to go there in low numbers thanks goff, thanks labour we know you can't fix the problems your morally and financially bankrupting ideology and inaction have unleased so out you and don't come back you must be begging to be relived of the burden so obviously too heavy for youSenior Sergeant Khush Kullar told Newshub police staff came across a young male being disruptive and threatening towards members of the public around Te Komititanga.
Snr Sgt Kullar said the young man initially ran from police but was soon arrested.
Video shared on TikTok of the young male being taken away by authorities showed what appeared to be his friends viciously heckling police staff.
The video showed two police officers on either side of the young male, while three other police staff directed them up Queen St.
As police took the young man away, the crowd of people screamed with one woman yelling: "I f***ing hate you pigs, you mother****ers."
And as police walked the handcuffed man further up Queen St, the crowd of aggressive hecklers followed, with some pulling the fingers while others continued to taunt police.
"There was some incredibly poor behaviour on display," Snr Sgt Kullar said in a statement.
Snr Sgt Kullar added members of the public should have been able to go about their night freely.
The young male was taken into custody and referred to Youth Aid
www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/12/police-slam-incredibly-poor-behaviour-after-video-shows-crowd-taunting-auckland-officers-making-arrest.htmlnationalpolice.org/the-toxic-relationship-between-woke-politicians-and-criminals/
Go woke, go broke! San Francisco mayor warns crime-ridden city now faces a $728m budget deficitwww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11549335/Go-woke-broke-San-Francisco-mayor-warns-crime-ridden-city-faces-728m-budget-deficit.htmlOpinion | The Problem With Wokeness - The New York Times 7 June 2018 The problem with wokeness is that it doesn't inspire action; it freezes it. To be woke is first and foremost to put yourself on display. To make a problem seem massively intractable is to .. |
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 21, 2022 19:19:43 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 22, 2022 8:02:18 GMT 12
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 22, 2022 8:44:56 GMT 12
What a steaming pile of one-sided reporting from the bfd - gosh who would ever have thought they would stoop to such levels. The reason it got thrown out was because the law is not a RETROSPECTIVE law. The common law principle in New Zealand is that laws are not RETROSPECTIVE unless specifically stated as such by Parliament and written in the Act. The crowns and police position is that it was obviously intended to be retrospective, but the defendants position was that it did not actually specify that it was retrospective in the Act. The bill of rights can only be taken away where their is a law to take it away. This deportees bill of rights are protected because the law, as it is written, does not apply to him. Any 501 deportee who was sentenced in Australia after the law came into force will be subjected to the requirements of the Act when they return to NZ. Their bill of rights will be infringed by this Act. What this ruling is saying, is that any 501 deportee incarcerated in Australia before the law came into effect is exempt and cannot have there bill of rights infringed upon BECAUSE the law is not RETROSPECTIVE.Simple solution is for Parliament to make the law a retrospective one, however that's overly simplified explanation, because retrospective laws are quite difficult under NZs constitution. |
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Post by armchairadmiral on Dec 22, 2022 9:06:07 GMT 12
I was unaware NZ has a constitution. Unless the bimbo passed it through last night from the podium of truth ?
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 22, 2022 10:04:17 GMT 12
I was unaware NZ has a constitution. Unless the bimbo passed it through last night from the podium of truth ? New Zealand's constitution is not found in one document like the USA's. Instead, it has a number of sources, including many pieces of legislation, several legal documents, common law derived from court decisions and established constitutional practices known as conventions. There's The Constitution Act and that's a formal statement of New Zealand's system of government, in particular the executive, legislature and the judiciary. The Act recognizes the King as the Head of State of New Zealand and the Governor-General as his representative. |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 22, 2022 10:10:23 GMT 12
Hence the other day when Nanaia Mahuta tried to get the entrenchment clause into the Bill, the legal academics were jumping up and down that it was unconstitutional.
Trying to introduce laws that are retrospective can be unconstitutional and the same legal academics would jump up and down about that as well.
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 22, 2022 12:09:58 GMT 12
The reason it got thrown out was because the law is not a RETROSPECTIVE law. The bill of rights can only be taken away where their is a law to take it away. This deportees bill of rights are protected because the law, as it is written, does not apply to him. Well, we can wait with interest to see what the Court of Appeals view on this being retrospective or not. The fact that Crown Law office is appealing says their view is that the law is correct as written. Once again this highlights how the Bill of Rights is viewed selectively by the judiciary, when you consider the references to freedom of Movement vs we Aucklanders being confined to the region for months and unjabbed people having their ability to enter various premises denied |
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 22, 2022 13:03:06 GMT 12
Actually the fact that Crown Law is appealing says that they WANT the law to be corrected if it is wrong. Not necessarily that the judge got it wrong...
The Police and the Crown Law want this law to be retrospective. By lodging an appeal they will put on hold the possibility that any other 501 deportees can benefit from this ruling until the appeal is heard...
It delays the impact of the high court ruling while Parliament have a chance to consider the if the law should be reviewed and changed.
Again it's not about selectively viewing the bill of rights, it's about if any order to infringe on the bill of rights is suitable and something that could be reasonably expected in a democratic country with all the checks and balances in place. We have hundreds of laws that "infringe" on our bill of rights - eg, you have freedom of movement - BUT not if you want to travel at over 100kph on the road!
The Law Society was opposed to this Law in 2017, saying that it could breach the bill of rights, they made several recommendations to labour saying the changes that needed to be made, but labour ignored them, so it was really just a matter of time before some intelligent criminal with deep enough pockets and an understanding of the system played the game.
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Post by eri on Dec 22, 2022 15:18:42 GMT 12
i was walking down K road the other day in the same direction as a fast walking, loud talking guy who would overtake me, and then stop and engage the loitering locals in brief conversations
then he'd stride off again and overtake again, then peel off for another chat
but the time we got near ponsonby road he'd told me he was a 501 who'd left NZ when he was 1, done enough druggy things in oz to be kicked back here
and the point of his morning walk was to see if any of his 'customers' wanted any weed
presumably he was sounding me out as a potential customer
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 23, 2022 14:29:48 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 17:36:37 GMT 12
I was unaware NZ has a constitution. Unless the bimbo passed it through last night from the podium of truth ? New Zealand's constitution is not found in one document. Instead, it has a number of sources, including crucial pieces of legislation, several legal documents, common law derived from court decisions as well as established constitutional practices known as conventions. Increasingly, New Zealand's constitution reflects the Treaty of Waitangi as a founding document of government in New Zealand. The Constitution Act 1986 is a key formal statement of New Zealand's system of government, in particular the executive, legislature and the judiciary. The Act recognises the Queen as the Head of State of New Zealand and the Governor-General as her representative. |
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Post by eri on Dec 23, 2022 18:11:57 GMT 12
afaik
none of labour's new interpretations of the treaty are entrenched
so simple gov. >50% vote is enough to nullify them
and in the interests of democracy and equality it is important that a future gov. entrench a constitution that spells that out
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 23, 2022 18:53:26 GMT 12
afaik none of labour's new interpretations of the treaty are entrenched so simple gov. >50% vote is enough to nullify them and in the interests of democracy and equality it is important that a future gov. entrench a constitution that spells that out Totally. Parliament is the ultimate authority. I am surprised Labour hasn't done more damage. National won't have a majority the won't be able to just go ripping up the playbook without support. Only six laws are entrenched in NZ the term of Parliament the Representation Commission (a committee that determines electoral boundaries) the division of New Zealand into general electorates the 5% margin for the population of general electorates the minimum voting age of 18 the method of secret voting |
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Post by OLD ROPE đź‘€ on Dec 23, 2022 19:15:06 GMT 12
Wrong. National will have a majority! Either by itself, with act who will push for such change, or with Winny who will be told what to do. Fuckmaster, you're sounding very much like that woke lefty deleted dude that got a "Shame boner and left" You'll love this... nopunchespulled.com/2022/12/15/mad-sad-life-wasting-self-delusions/And this... In a mindbogglingly inane contributory NZ Herald article Rob Campbell, chairman of Auckland’s casino (among other sinecures) asks, “Who on earth is being hurt by co-governance?”. I’ll answer that by stating the obvious. We all are. In a democracy the underlying principle is an equal value vote accorded every citizen, regardless of their intellectual differences, contribution to society, ethnicity, and so on. It’s hard to think of a more disgraceful abuse of this principle than according 50% of governance to an ethnic group that makes up a mere 2% of the population, that is citizens with 50% or more of maori ethnicity. It’s not bloody hard Rob. Being fashionably trendy about fictitious maori wonderfulness will be the principal reason (among many others) the government will be decimated in the next election. |
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