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Post by muzled on Jul 21, 2023 7:54:54 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Jul 21, 2023 8:19:27 GMT 12
The extreme left modus revolves around personal attack, cancelling and censorship, no debate allowed.
Right of extreme left prefer informed discussion and debate.
Sort of Indoctrination vs Enlightenment or Wisdom
Human civilisation generally progressed when freedom was promoted over dogma, unfortunately holding such beliefs can get you "burnt at the stake" at the wrong time in history, we seem to be very near one of those phases
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Post by fish on Jul 21, 2023 10:36:46 GMT 12
I might go along, just to show my support for free speech.
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Post by muzled on Jul 21, 2023 12:09:40 GMT 12
The govt have put themselves in a very akward situation over this.
It's three weeks before the election, that in itself makes me snigger.
She arrives the day the man who tipped tom sauce on her goes to court.
If they ban her they'll look like the right carnts that they are.
If they let her in they know it'll erupt.
The fact that it will erupt is sweet justice for goons like the minister of filth and hippy speaking out against her last time. Oh, and Marama, please let her loose again.
All for the sake of letting a lady that no one had ever heard of, speak.
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Post by harrytom on Jul 21, 2023 13:10:34 GMT 12
I might go along, just to show my support for free speech. See you there me thinks,but I wont have a rainbow shirt.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jul 21, 2023 13:40:05 GMT 12
you borrow mine
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Post by muzled on Jul 21, 2023 13:42:06 GMT 12
Interesting what appears on twitter, this is tomatosauceman himself.
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Post by GO30 on Jul 21, 2023 20:11:46 GMT 12
I might go along, just to show my support for free speech. See you there, assuming there is room as I suspect she'll draw a massively bigger crowd this time.
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Post by muzled on Aug 4, 2023 10:33:52 GMT 12
Bombers take on Posie Parker. I totally disagree with his conditions, she should be able to speak where she likes and the cops should tell the lunatic children in the room to protest in peace or be arrested. Obviously that's beyond our police force now though. thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/08/04/the-conditions-of-posie-parkers-return-to-new-zealand/The conditions of Posie Parker’s return to New Zealand By Martyn Bradbury -August 4, 202312659 Share 'Pure Trans Joy' - How the Spinoff saw the Posie Parker mob violence vs reality Posie Parker to return to New Zealand in September: Will border officers let her in? Controversial anti-transgender activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, otherwise known as Posie Parker, is set to return to New Zealand in September – but her entry is not yet secured. Keen-Minshull, a self-described women’s rights activist, said she was returning for a court hearing for the person who allegedly assaulted her at her March rally in Albert Park, Auckland. She penned an open letter to Prime Minister Chris Hipkins yesterday, asking him to guarantee her safety. Immigration New Zealand general manager Richard Owen said Keen-Minshull holds a New Zealand Electronic Travel Authority (NZeTA), allowing her to travel here without applying for a visa in advance. Posie Parker can still be denied entry into the country if she is considered a threat to public order, and based on the madness of her last visit, that must be exercised and her entry prevented. The issue here is not Free Speech, the issue is public safety. When the woke mob chased her from the Town Square, the woke cheered ‘Pure Trans Joy’ without appreciating that their cult like violence on the day changed the rules. The Right witnessed that performance and know now that violence is allowed and every religious fuckwit, feral antivaxxer, Anti Co-governance bigot and Qanon sovereign sheriff are all lining up to fight the woke. Remember, The Spinoff and their woke media newsrooms are still telling you that the protest wasn’t violent, TDB was there, we have the footage…
…RNZ, Mediawatch et all will tell you the images you see with your own eyes above were not a mob violently attacking Posie Parker.
According to the apologists it was, and I quote, ‘Pure Trans Joy’.
The Spinoff and their woke media newsrooms are fucking liars and they have glossed over the violence because you know, “heteronormative white cis male privilege”, the danger of course was that by legitimising political street violence, the rules have changed and they have changed so much that Posie Parker should only be allowed back into the country under very clear conditions: NO public event in Albert Park or any Public space. If she wishes to speak, it must be in a venue that can be managed and policed properly. If we allow her in and she pulls the same fear grift stunt she did in Albert Park, it’s going to trigger a spasm of political violence because the Woke are so arrogant that they can’t back down and the feral right want a fight. Add in the possibility of some nutter going troppo and bringing a gun to this, and we have an event 3 weeks out from the general election that could destabilise this country. This is what we have become, this is who we is now. Thanks wokies, we get it, your manufactured self identity is more important than our shared humanity.
You fucking clowns
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Post by eri on Aug 5, 2023 11:42:09 GMT 12
the uk has "speakers' corner" in hyde park where anyone can stand on a ladder and speak to a crowd hopefully an act/national gov can introduce something similar here perhaps as part of a written constution guarneteeing all nz'ers equality and free speech en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner
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Post by muzled on Aug 7, 2023 14:23:24 GMT 12
Are half the acedemics on the planet paedo's? Who the phuck coins a phrase - Minor attacted person strategic-culture.org/news/2023/08/05/why-america-woke-left-silent-over-blockbuster-child-sex-trafficking-film/Film looks intersting, if not depressing a/f. Writing in Variety magazine, Owen Gleiberman observed, “Let’s assume that, like me, you’re not a right-wing fundamentalist conspiracy theorist looking for a dark, faith-based suspense film to see over the holiday weekend. Even then, you needn’t hold extreme beliefs to experience ‘Sound of Freedom’ as a compelling movie that shines an authentic light on one of the crucial criminal horrors of our time, one that Hollywood has mostly shied away from.”
At a time when the question of sexual misconduct inside of the entertainment industry continues to grab headlines, as witnessed by the #MeToo movement, Hollywood’s indifference and even aversion to the subject of pedophilia and child sex-trafficking is strange to say the least. After all, as this cinematic biopsy rightly reveals, there are more people enslaved now, by sex trafficking, than there were when slavery was legal. And while allegations of sexual abuse committed by Hollywood bigwigs (amongst consenting adults) is highly disturbing, even the hint that America’s leading industry could be defending or even participating in child sex-trafficking seriously challenges the limits of moral acceptability.
It goes without saying that there is practically no limit to the number of conspiracy theories involving the inner sanctum of Hollywood – from Kubrick-style Illuminati control to unbridled sexual misconduct – the industry has witnessed every sordid accusation under the California sun. Adding to its stained reputation, an increasing number of people, many of them employed by the movie industry, are speaking out about pedophilia within the Hollywood ranks, and the fact that their efforts are not being taken seriously by the overlords of media and entertainment only adds to the aura of suspicion.
So why the silence from the progressive left on the Sound of Freedom, which Netflix, Hulu and Amazon streaming services have avoided like the plague? First, the villain here is ‘human nature’ itself, an admission that flies in the face of liberal philosophy, which takes it for granted that all human behavior, and not least of all that of a sexual nature, deserves a fair hearing, complete with a court loaded with progressive activists. In fact, there have even been calls to legitimize pedophilia and pardon those who are guilty of it.
Dr. Stephen Kershnar, a philosophy professor at SUNY Fredonia, is just one of many left-wing academics – are there any other? – who argues on behalf of sexual relationships between children and adults. “Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl. Imagine that she’s a willing participant,” Kershnar argued. “A very standard, very widely held view is that there’s something deeply wrong about this. It’s wrong independent of it being criminalized,” he said. “It’s not obvious to me that it’s in fact wrong. I think this is a mistake. And I think exploring that why it’s a mistake will tell us not only things about adult/child sex and statutory rape and also fundamental principles of morality.”
Kershnar went so far as to suggest that there might be “evolutionary advantages” to adult/child sex, while concluding with this shocking remark: “The notion that it’s wrong even with a one-year-old is not quite obvious to me.”
Not to be outdone in academia’s woke Olympiad, Allyn Walker, an Assistant Professor at Old Dominion University, has coined the term “minor-attracted person” in order to destigmatize the word ‘pedophile.’ Walker does not consider an adult’s physical attraction to a young child, even a toddler, to be a form of mental derangement, but rather a case of individuals not being able to control who they love, which is a very sick way of justifying child rape.
With such utter insanity in the air is it any surprise that California Governor Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 145, which lowers the penalties for adults who have sex with same-sex minors?
TWEET: Well what a shock. Newsom signed SB145, the bill that allows a 24 year old to have sex with a 14 year old and escape a felony conviction and requirement to be a registered sex offender. Absolutely disgusting.
— Senator Melissa Melendez (@senatormelendez) September 12, 2020
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Post by muzled on Aug 8, 2023 11:05:44 GMT 12
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Post by muzled on Aug 10, 2023 7:36:12 GMT 12
Free speech union -
IPCA to review Police response to "Let Women Speak" fiasco, and FSU writes to Prime Minister and Immigration Minister
Several months after Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull and her supporters were beset by mob violence at her "Let Women Speak" event in Albert Park, the Independent Police Conduct Authority has announced that they will be conducting a review of the Police's action (or better put, inaction) on the day.
Having raised over 23,000 signatures for our public letter calling on the Police Minister and Police Commissioner to ensure that such scenes never happen again, we welcomed this announcement. We'll be waiting eagerly for the release of the IPCA's report.
With Keen-Minshull planning to visit New Zealand again this September, we expect that the same people who called for her entry to be denied in March will do so again.
Undoubtedly they will claim that the violence of her last visit justifies her as a threat to the peace (nevermind the fact that the violence was perpetuated by their side). Getting ahead of the curve, we've written to the Prime Minister and Minister of Immigration making the case that unlawful acts of violence cannot be allowed to dictate who gets to exercise their lawful right to free expression.
Before her last visit, former Immigration Minister Michael wood took the commendable stance of allowing Keen-Minshull entry into the country. We hope that our current Immigration Minister will do the same. If he doesn’t, we’re already drafting legal filings to take him to Court over this.
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