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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 11:37:00 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 16, 2023 11:37:00 GMT 12
Be rude not have have a thread about this iconic race.
Starts on the 25th Feb. 9 days.
First issue. Napier is clearly out as a stop over.
Second issue. Debris. Down the entire east coast. Possibly parts of the northern west coast.
Other than all the logs, there is a good chance there are some houses floating around out there. Along with shipping containers, caravans, tiny homes etc. Cows, sheep, horses, dogs.
I have no involvement at all, but the first watch as a spectator will be to see how the committee deal with it.
I assume Tauranga is a logical replacement for Napier as a stop over. 2 big capes to deal with though on one leg.
But the debris situation is a major risk.
Perhaps they will do Picton to Mongonui via the west coast? So not Round the North Island, but up and down the North Island?
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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 15:24:40 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Feb 16, 2023 15:24:40 GMT 12
You raise a good point about debris. But I’m thinking wider than the RNI race itself and to everyday boating around the NZ coastline.
I saw lots of obviously new debris when I sailing the inner gulf after the Auckland anniversary weekend floods. I’m guessing there will be much more debris out there now and some of it quite large and long-lasting hazards.
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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 16:09:04 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 16, 2023 16:09:04 GMT 12
You raise a good point about debris. But I’m thinking wider than the RNI race itself and to everyday boating around the NZ coastline. I saw lots of obviously new debris when I sailing the inner gulf after the Auckland anniversary weekend floods. I’m guessing there will be much more debris out there now and some of it quite large and long-lasting hazards. Best to drive an old, sub-planning kauri log. Like a bull-dozer ploughing through the sea, pushing entire trees John Wray would have been proud of out of the way. Wouldn't be seen dead in one of those modern light high performance planning machines with tissue paper thin glass hulls ;-) Especially one with a square top carbon mainsail and an A2 that could cover my entire house. Jokes aside, slower speeds and a good lookout. Slower speeds tend to be the opposite of the primary intention of the RNI though. Lets have a sweep-stakes. How long until the first Rivitmo impales a log? My pick is by the end of the first sunny weekend we have. Possibly this weekend? Based on the current track record, it is two weeks between disasters. So this weekend should be minta. Two weekends time we should be due for Gabby's little sister or something. PS, there was a whole BBQ table tied up to the clubs dinghy pontoon last week. Has been pulled out of the water now, but yes, plenty of things floating by. I thought one of the liveaboards had an ill-conceived idea to upgrade his dinghy. Paddle a BBQ table instead.
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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 17:17:26 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Feb 16, 2023 17:17:26 GMT 12
Good point there lads. All the crap washed out could be a very real risk. With SSANZ swinging between pragmatic and anal it'll interesting to see what happens.
But they are good at asking the fleet or selected ones in it, unlike most, and I'd expect the majority of them to push for a start. If they do start those in 2 minds will follow.
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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 17:43:48 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 16, 2023 17:43:48 GMT 12
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The RNI
Feb 16, 2023 19:42:02 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Feb 16, 2023 19:42:02 GMT 12
That’s worth starting a fresh thread for, Fish.
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The RNI
Feb 17, 2023 10:50:37 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 17, 2023 10:50:37 GMT 12
Two stories today as to why the RNI wont be stopping at Napier, and probably wont go up the East Coast. 1) They've set up a temporary morgue at Port of Napier. Because they have generators and refrigeration there. 2) The HMNZS Monawanui couldn't get into Tolaga Bay due to slash. It sounds possibly like the issue at Tolaga Bay was small boats not being able to land supplies due to the slash, rather than the ship itself, but; 3) The HMNZS Monawanui is currently standing off Port of Gisbourne while they investigate if they can get into the port. Both with silt / channel changes, and logs / slash. Noting that Gisbourne is the Monawanui's home port. Oh, that would be 3 reasons. I'm still picking the best option for the RNI would be a 'there and back' race via the west coast to Waikawa. A bit of risk of debri off the Kaipara, but the rhumb line is a wee way offshore there, and less total volume of slash than the east coast. www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/484369/cyclone-gabrielle-slash-at-tolaga-bay-forces-navy-ship-with-supplies-to-divert
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 21, 2023 12:09:01 GMT 12
from the SSANZ web page
With less than five days until the start of the 2023 Evolution Sails Round North Island Race, we want to keep you updated with regards to the race and the situation regarding Cyclone Gabrielle and the continuing devastating impacts on many communities throughout New Zealand, particularly on the East Coast, Northland and Auckland’s western beaches. The thoughts of the SSANZ team and wider SSANZ community are with those who have been impacted, particularly those who have lost loved ones during this difficult time. We at SSANZ love to run races. However the safety of our competitors, the ability to logistically support starts, finishes and stop-overs for each leg, and the impacts we may have on the communities we pass and visit are all also of critical importance. We are also conscious of trying to give competitors and their support teams as much time as possible to plan for the event including stop-overs, while trying to work with uncertainty and ensure that we do not distract the focus of authorities and essential services from their core tasks at this difficult time. The key points of this update are: • We intend to start the race as planned on Saturday the 25thof Feb, heading to Mangonui. We ask that support crews follow the most recent guidance from the authorities about whether it is appropriate to visit Northland, and do their own due diligence on road closures/detours etc. • We intend to race to Waikawa as planned. • We are no longer able to have a stop-over in Napier. • Our strong preference is to have a three-leg race with the final leg up the EAST Coast of the North Island from Waikawa returning directly to Auckland. This is approx. 560nm. • A final call on the third leg will not be made until the Waikawa stopover. • If the preferred (East Coast) option is not possible e.g. due to no emergency services available to assist in case of distress or extensive debris in the water, SSANZ will look to continue the event by running a third leg returning to Auckland via the WEST coast.
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The RNI
Feb 21, 2023 12:29:38 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 21, 2023 12:29:38 GMT 12
from the SSANZ web page With less than five days until the start of the 2023 Evolution Sails Round North Island Race, we want to keep you updated with regards to the race and the situation regarding Cyclone Gabrielle and the continuing devastating impacts on many communities throughout New Zealand, particularly on the East Coast, Northland and Auckland’s western beaches. The thoughts of the SSANZ team and wider SSANZ community are with those who have been impacted, particularly those who have lost loved ones during this difficult time. We at SSANZ love to run races. However the safety of our competitors, the ability to logistically support starts, finishes and stop-overs for each leg, and the impacts we may have on the communities we pass and visit are all also of critical importance. We are also conscious of trying to give competitors and their support teams as much time as possible to plan for the event including stop-overs, while trying to work with uncertainty and ensure that we do not distract the focus of authorities and essential services from their core tasks at this difficult time. The key points of this update are: • We intend to start the race as planned on Saturday the 25thof Feb, heading to Mangonui. We ask that support crews follow the most recent guidance from the authorities about whether it is appropriate to visit Northland, and do their own due diligence on road closures/detours etc. • We intend to race to Waikawa as planned. • We are no longer able to have a stop-over in Napier. • Our strong preference is to have a three-leg race with the final leg up the EAST Coast of the North Island from Waikawa returning directly to Auckland. This is approx. 560nm. • A final call on the third leg will not be made until the Waikawa stopover. • If the preferred (East Coast) option is not possible e.g. due to no emergency services available to assist in case of distress or extensive debris in the water, SSANZ will look to continue the event by running a third leg returning to Auckland via the WEST coast.Nothing surprising there. Pragmatic, and basically as expect.
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The RNI
Feb 21, 2023 12:39:51 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Feb 21, 2023 12:39:51 GMT 12
Nothing surprising there. Pragmatic, and basically as expect. talking just now to a mate who is in the race about the above, he did observe correctly there is a similar level of crap in the ocean on the west coast...
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The RNI
Feb 21, 2023 13:55:41 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 21, 2023 13:55:41 GMT 12
My partners cousin sailed solo from Napier the other day. He was sheltering there during the storm. Enroute solo from the Sounds to Auckland.
Should be in Tauranga possibly later today. I'm keen to hear how much debri he encountered.
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The RNI
Feb 21, 2023 14:27:29 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Feb 21, 2023 14:27:29 GMT 12
My partners cousin sailed solo from Napier the other day. He was sheltering there during the storm. Enroute solo from the Sounds to Auckland. Should be in Tauranga possibly later today. I'm keen to hear how much debri he encountered. The key to the movement of the debris are the currents and looking at Pilot Charts, the current the east coast is south setting trending to the south east, whilst flowing west to east thru cook Strait. So that would suggest it may concentrate off the Wairarapa Coast and some finish up on the Chathams
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The RNI
Feb 25, 2023 14:24:26 GMT 12
Post by fish on Feb 25, 2023 14:24:26 GMT 12
And they're off. Anyone know what happened to Playbouy?
Playbouy skippered by Guy Pilkington and David Whyman have withdrawn from the Evolution Sails NZ #RNI2023 due to a pre start incident that has caused damage to the boat.
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The RNI
Feb 25, 2023 15:04:01 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Feb 25, 2023 15:04:01 GMT 12
Now that would piss you off.
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The RNI
Feb 25, 2023 15:50:30 GMT 12
Post by em on Feb 25, 2023 15:50:30 GMT 12
Pretty whacky photo . I’m guessing they got a shroud hooked up on another boat ? Attachments:
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