Health

That is a good point.
Labour dropped all the KPI's, cause they were a distraction, or it wasn't nice for someone to come last or something.
Something that was a minor headline 5 years ago.
How did that work out?

The corollary to your statement, is, how many people do you know in health? If you don't know anyone in health, it is kind of a pointless statement.
I know three personally. A family member was a mental health worker, almost lost her house as well. A social worker, got bumped by Waitemata DHB, and my physio's wife, who was a nurse. On top of that there are a number of teachers we know, most of who are back in work, and a large number of rest home workers whom my mother worked with.

If you don't know people that were impacted by the mandates, it would explain your dismissive view towards them. I'm sure that ignorance is not an excuse though. There is still substantial hurt and rifts in our communities from those mandates.

An aside from the discussion around our health service, there is a major un-acknowledged issue around the impact of the mandates. it is a big issue. Slowly things are coming out that show those people were right. 95% of the population have moved on, but those wounds still run deep. And those people were all maligned and marginalised. There time will come.

Not wanting to argue about it. I'm just saying.

Back to the debate.
Your first point, staff over 50? really? My mum is 70 and still working full time in a rest home, She can run rings around younger stuff in terms of stamina. But she has decades of experience. And a lot of passion for the residents she cares for.
I really doubt physical space in the buildings is the issue. Auckland Hospital are using a public atrium, they have the physical space, it is the services that are needed in the spaces.
Inability to attract new talent. Yes. That can be changed. Drop the vaccine mandate for students (I know of one that dropped her course because of that). Make nursing and Dr's cheaper than law, Business or an Arts degree (surely, this is a no-brainer)
The red tape thing, yes, but how and by who?
Overseas talent, this is the basic green visa waver. Its beyond me what the issue is? Get them in, bond them for 2 yrs, then improve conditions.

Surely the people at the coal face have some basic ideas as to what needs to change? Is it a straight demand / supply thing? Demand cannot be managed, so ramp up resources get supply up?
The private sector seems to be fine. They cover most things accept cancer treatment as far as I know. Would it help to remove restrictions on the private sector so they can cover more demand? Or would that suck the lifeblood out of the public sector?

As I'm a strong believer in taking personal responsibility for your own actions and life, so we have private insurance.

Not long before Covid I arsed off a motorsickle in the back blocks of Vietnam and busted my leg in 2 places. On getting back to Hanoi I was pushed into a local SOS clinic, which is as, possiblly more, tidy and efficient than any I've been in in NZ. After the Doc took a look he said I need a MRI, give him an hour and he'd get a nurse to take me somewhere close and get it done. I said I'm bailing home tomorrow and he said ok NZ is better than them. They then gave me 2 shots to minimise blood clots, put a good sized flash brace on it plus gave me a pile of pain killers, all up US$180.

Got home and it took 3 days to see a Doctor then a week after that to get a X-ray. I was then thrown into the public system which I kept saying I'm happy to go private. A MRI was going to take 3 weeks and in a chat with a medical again saying I can go private, no worries, they replied 'If you do thats not good for our quotas'. That comment has disturbed me ever since.

A Doctor mate stepped in and 2 days later I got a private MRI.

Like many I pay a lot for private but still pay for public so if you add all of us up the whole thing looks an even bigger cluster.

2 cuzzies got booted due to mandates. They are now being chased hard to come back but both have said 'As you flicked us for political reasons you can now get fucked'. One has taken a job in the private system, the other now works in a big Sydney hospital. They reckon they are not unique, that is supported by Doc mate.

You obviously don't get out much. On my project about a dozen people lost their jobs due to the company mandate. Would have been +3 if the project had not decided 2 of us were "indispensable" and kept us out of sight for the period of the mandate, and the 3rd if he had not decided to "create" a jab pass. 100's across the group (Fletchers) lost their jobs.
Others known to me who also lost their jobs included my gym personal trainer (she lost her home as a consequence) friend's daughter in law (beautician) and another friend (childcare worker).

Your theory that the healthcare crisis is a direct result of COVID mandates lacks any evidence to support it. Not even the NZ Doctors Against Science conspiracy group are making such a claim. To suggest that I am ignorant of the facts is simply inflammatory and lacks any basis in reality.

New Zealand hospitals have required their staff to keep their immunizations and vaccines up-to-date since the mid-1990s. Healthcare workers who have signed on to work in these hospitals were fully aware of this requirement as a condition of their employment. As such, I have no sympathy for those who have chosen to violate the terms of their employment and have been unable to find work as a result.

Furthermore, a quick Google search can reveal many articles that predate the COVID era, clearly articulating how New Zealand hospitals were already at breaking point. The evidence suggests that the current crisis has been an out-of-control freight train barrelling down the tracks since the late 2010s, rather than a sudden meteorite that impacted during the COVID era.

Finally, there are no Government mandates for Covid vaccinations across any sector of industry in New Zealand.  Any requirement for any vaccinations as part of employment is a matter of individual employment contract conditions between the employer and employee.  Hospitals have had this requirement as part of employment since the 90s, LONG BEFORE COVID.

Your assertion that "slowly the evidence is coming out to suggest these [anti-vaxers] were right" is utter nonsense. There is no such evidence. 

Anti-vaxxers are a danger to public health. Not only do they put themselves at risk by not getting vaccinated, but they also put others at risk by spreading diseases. It's crucial that healthcare professionals are vaccinated to protect themselves, their patients, and their communities. Anti-vaxxers who work in hospitals not only put patients at risk but also undermine the trust in medical professionals and the scientific community.

Furthermore, hospitals have a duty to provide a safe and healthy environment for their patients. Allowing anti-vaxxers to work in hospitals goes against this duty, and it's a breach of professional ethics. Healthcare professionals have a responsibility to uphold the highest standards of care, and that includes getting vaccinated. Anti-vaxxers who work in hospitals are a liability, and they have no place in healthcare.

In conclusion, it's essential that anti-vaxxers are not allowed to work in hospitals. They pose a significant threat to public health, and their presence undermines the trust in medical professionals and the scientific community. Hospitals have a responsibility to provide a safe and healthy environment for their patients, and allowing anti-vaxxers to work in hospitals goes against this responsibility.

New Zealand healthcare has taken a stand against anti-vaxxers since the 90's and has prioritized public health over personal beliefs.

Finally, there are no Government mandates for Covid vaccinations across any sector of industry in New Zealand. Any requirement for any vaccinations as part of employment is a matter of individual employment contract conditions between the employer and employee. Hospitals have had this requirement as part of employment since the 90s, LONG BEFORE COVID.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for these people.  I honestly don't give a fuck for them.  They made personal decisions and they reap the rewards or the consequences of their personal choices. 

By the sounds of things it doesn't sound like you get out much either as no one you've listed knowing was in the health sector. 

To be clear, I didn't say I didn't not know anyone impacted. Just that I didn't know anyone impacted in the Health Sector.

Failure to read and cherry pick the information to suit the narrative so one can attack the author is a common trend on this board. You've joined the ranks of GO30 who is a repeat offender. 

Finally, while I had to pretend to care and even was the support person for one of my own staff to keep their job through the mandates and I attended multiple meetings and got that employee to stay in my company. I still personally think that person is a fucking idiot and a moron.

They put themselves through enormous stress and enormous amounts of pain and suffering including suffering an outbreak of stress induced shingles all because they believed in there heart that the vaccine was a government plot to reduce the population. The numb nuts still works for me...

And yep I would do it all again cause that's what you do for your staff, that's what I signed up for.

If I didn't want that part of my job I would go and find another job.