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Post by harrytom on May 1, 2024 12:58:15 GMT 12
What fast this is. My son/wife and I have received letters from the Ministry of Justice to attend service on the 17th June. Hmm now let me see,we all live at the same address and will be traveling together. So guess not much chance of us serving on a Jury.
So do we ring up individually or just show up and wait to be sent home? first time for all of us.
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Post by muzled on May 1, 2024 13:57:43 GMT 12
Not sure, but if you go, take a book or something to keep yourself amused.
The 'choosing' part will do your head in with how slow it moves, or more to the point, how it doesn't even move!
I ended up on one a few years back, it was actually quite interesting.
Thankfully district court and a few days of domestic violence which which was only mildly disturbing.
As apposed to high court which could have been weeks and mostly likely very disturbing.
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Post by eri on May 1, 2024 14:46:53 GMT 12
i was called for a week's duty at the auckland central court about 10 years ago
monday morn. about 100? of us sat in a large room waiting to be called for a trial
about 20 were picked by noon and the rest of us were sent home
tues. about 80 were waiting, 15? were chosen and at noon the rest of us were sent home
by fri. there was only about 40? of us....and i ended up getting chosen for a trial to start on mon. morn.
on sat. got a call at home to say the trial had been cancelled as at the last moment the accused had pled guilty
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Post by chariot on May 1, 2024 16:34:43 GMT 12
Have been called up 3 times. First two times drafted a letter outlining work commitments and was excused. Third time not so lucky. Turned up in a suit. One look at me and I was told not required, see you again some time. Most of those selected looked like bigger crims than those on trial. Suppose that is being judged by your peers.
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Post by harrytom on May 1, 2024 17:52:24 GMT 12
But how can they pick 3 members of the same household to attend to the same court,not much chance that 3 of us could appear for tha same trial.
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Post by Fogg on May 1, 2024 18:24:10 GMT 12
But how can they pick 3 members of the same household to attend to the same court,not much chance that 3 of us could appear for tha same trial. Agree that’s nuts. Never done JS but would love an interesting case. |
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Post by eri on May 1, 2024 18:49:01 GMT 12
they aren't asking you to sit on the same trial they're asking how many of your household can turn up for jury duty if all 3 can, great i presume they have more than 1 trial scheduled for that week/weeks
... "we care a lot! about all you boys and girlsoh it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQhX8PbNUWI&ab_channel=UPROXXIndieMixtape |
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Post by GO30 on May 2, 2024 9:43:21 GMT 12
What fast this is. My son/wife and I have received letters from the Ministry of Justice to attend service on the 17th June. Hmm now let me see,we all live at the same address and will be traveling together. So guess not much chance of us serving on a Jury. So do we ring up individually or just show up and wait to be sent home? first time for all of us. Can all go in together but be prepared to leave individually. One or more may get on a case but one or more may not and you'll never know until it happens, it is as random as a random thing. So you all may notl eave at the same time.
I got the call and went. Got selected for a case and the Jury formans seat. Death by boy racer. Guilty on 3 of the 4 charges. Went for a week but was very interesting and the time flew by.
Got the call a second time and not selected on Monday but had to come back, on the Wednesday morning 5 minutes before heading there they pulled the pin on all cases due to covid. We did think it was strange we were all locked in a smallish room while the country was shutting down, they remembered us eventually.
If you get the call DO IT!!! If you don't they will get 'professional juryors' in and the people will lose their justice system. Professional Juryers will become hardened to icky fast, work to the letter of the law and will not be representative of the people. One example is the case up north where the 2 yobs were stealing shit and the farmer fired to scare but nailed one of them. The will of the people i.e. the Jury, decided his actions were justified, as did the second defendant coincidently, so the farmer did not get convicted. Professional Jourors would have had the dude in jail for life.
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Post by harrytom on Jun 17, 2024 16:09:25 GMT 12
Attended today at 9.0am Auckland high court,lady rotated the barrel and called 50 names who were then escorted upstairs,coincidence that those called were indian/polynesian names?while about 80 of us europeans sat in the room till 38 others returned and we were dismissed for the day but told to check web site tonight and we will be back 9.00am wednesday.
There has to be a simpler way of chosing surely. Maybe electronic bar code?? go left or go right,go right upstairs for selection while those left free to go? Those upstairs get whittled down to 12 seems simple to me.Gee what to do with my $31 less tax??
Some jurors who turned up were meant to go to the AK district court and 2 or3 went too AK court who should of been at high court.Cant follow simple instructions what hope is there of a fair trial?
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Post by Fogg on Jun 17, 2024 16:19:25 GMT 12
Haha!
Keep us posted this is entertaining 😊
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Post by harrytom on Jun 17, 2024 16:24:23 GMT 12
Haha! Keep us posted this is entertaining 😊 Funny part for me was no ID needed so you could of taken my place,just say name and when asked what mode of transport you took?bus/train/private vehicle. Well with strikes looming and didnt want to be late we drove and found $10 parking for 12 hrs. 10 minute walk bonus |
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Post by harrytom on Jun 19, 2024 11:43:17 GMT 12
Wasnt requiered Tuesday so went and sat in Awawaroa bay having lunch,nice spot in a se,havent been in there for 30yrs.Mussuel spat farm off old wharf.
Went to High court today and sat 3hrs and selected Jury turned up so dismissed for 2 yrs,hopefully wont get called up in 2 yrs time so I can reach 65 and so no.
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Post by harrytom on Jun 19, 2024 17:09:34 GMT 12
$31 per 1/2 day or $40 full day,why is not not paid at minimum wage rate.Surely this would entice people a little to attend.
Or select 100 people and they yes to attendance then do a computor draw like lotto as to only need 40 to physically attend to be whittled down to 12 and have 10 on standby incase some of the 12 get ill.
Must cost the country thousands to hold jury cases,my employer had to get a temp in for 3 days at the cost $50ph agency fee who pay the temp $35ph
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Post by Fogg on Jun 20, 2024 9:02:54 GMT 12
Many countries work the same way.
It’s generally thought of as doing the right thing (your civic duty) to support a fair justice system.
In other words you get paid your expenses plus some pocket money but it’s your employer who carries the rest of the cost eg temp staff.
If the court system paid jury members more money guess where that would come from? Your employer (via extra taxes). It would just be shuffling the same money around.
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Post by DuckMaster on Jun 20, 2024 9:33:49 GMT 12
It's a broken system. In today's cost of living crisis where people are living paycheck to paycheck it can send families to the wall.
A panel of your peers made up by people who aren't smart enough to write a letter to get out of jury service... Yep...
If your employer doesn't offer a top up, and you cannot afford to go without your paycheck and use your savings, write a letter explaining the financial hard ship you will suffer and you will be excused.
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