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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 9:44:54 GMT 12
With all respect.
That is soft cock....
The pipeline is fed because of my reasons set out above
Remove the low bro breeders remove all the problem!... Pandering to the breeders keeps them in the business of producing the scrotum kids
Hitting the scrotum kids with no penalties and woke social warriors pandering to them gives them the power of entitlement to get away with crimes, ignore the police, and build the CV to a level of gang promotion.
Many countries have tried the Soft clock approach and failed.Then look at Singapore as an example of low crime and a good living standard.
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Post by dutyfree on Dec 27, 2021 10:01:57 GMT 12
I heard there are discussions going on between utility service providers who need to visit properties about areas they will no longer go without the Police in tow. That is how bad it is getting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 10:51:54 GMT 12
I heard there are discussions going on between utility service providers who need to visit properties about areas they will no longer go without the Police in tow. That is how bad it is getting. yip they are already doing it in Rotorua's motel / gang HQ area. |
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Post by Fogg on Dec 27, 2021 10:58:56 GMT 12
Schooner you’re not listening / reading what I’m saying.
I didn’t say your observations were wrong.
I said your ideas alone won’t solve the problem.
So I’m saying you have to do your stuff PLUS more.
Whereas you ended your list by saying this is the problem “end of”.
And I’m disagreeing - it’s not “end of”. It’s “here’s half the stuff we must do now let’s discuss the other half”.
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Post by grounded on Dec 27, 2021 11:10:11 GMT 12
It is only small time Crime that Singapore has a low rate of. And to maintain that low rate, Singapore is one of the most "watched" Countries in the World. They have CCT everywhere. Even Citizens are known for tracking down someone that has carried out a crime. They don't have an enormous number in Prison, due to the fact that they use other very harsh penalties for enforcement. Even the Death Penalty for Drugs.
Besides, i thought you didn't want Communism Schooner. Such control of Citizens is pretty much the same thing. Kids are educated by the Gvt from a very early age. Penalties for Crimes are some of the harshest in the World. In fact you can do so little in Singapore, that Human Rights Advocates argue that these laws infringe on the rights and Freedoms of citizens.
And then to the other side of the table, more innocent people are arrested and incaserated in Singapore than anywhere else in the World. Because, as many say, their System is over the top and harsh.
However, Gangs, Drugs and Trafficing are still a problem in Singapore. The Gangs remain very much underground and secretive and VERY serious to deal with. Even though the Gvt has worked hard at eliminating Gangs, the ways and means they use to do so have come very much at a high cost to the rights and safety of it's Citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 11:18:27 GMT 12
Schooner you’re not listening / reading what I’m saying. I didn’t say your observations were wrong. I said your ideas alone won’t solve the problem. So I’m saying you have to do your stuff PLUS more. Whereas you ended your list by saying this is the problem “end of”. And I’m disagreeing - it’s not “end of”. It’s “here’s half the stuff we must do now let’s discuss the other half”. read what you wrote and still think you can't do both The carrot has to come at the end of the cane for the misfits in society. right now the government is try to be kind by Family group conferences yet the youth offending us rising. You can't "Jacinda" it by smiling while you enforce the Rules. Or feeding lollies in between the poison doses. A deterrent is not a cake ride Go hard or go home. |
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Post by Fogg on Dec 27, 2021 11:39:09 GMT 12
Remember what happened in the 90s/2000s in the US with crime?
The frightening rise of murders & violent crime of the 90s started to decline as we entered the new millennium and everyone congratulated themselves on tougher policies and policing and sentences etc.
Until they worked out what the biggest contributory factor actually was.
Widespread access to birth control & abortion across the US led to fewer kids being born into sub-optimal circumstances. Which massively reduced the pipeline of apprentice criminals. Which massively reduced crime.
The tougher policies were a coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:30:58 GMT 12
It is only small time Crime that Singapore has a low rate of. And to maintain that low rate, Singapore is one of the most "watched" Countries in the World. They have CCT everywhere. Even Citizens are known for tracking down someone that has carried out a crime. They don't have an enormous number in Prison, due to the fact that they use other very harsh penalties for enforcement. Even the Death Penalty for Drugs.
Besides, i thought you didn't want Communism Schooner. Such control of Citizens is pretty much the same thing. Kids are educated by the Gvt from a very early age. Penalties for Crimes are some of the harshest in the World. In fact you can do so little in Singapore, that Human Rights Advocates argue that these laws infringe on the rights and Freedoms of citizens.
And then to the other side of the table, more innocent people are arrested and incaserated in Singapore than anywhere else in the World. Because, as many say, their System is over the top and harsh.
However, Gangs, Drugs and Trafficing are still a problem in Singapore. The Gangs remain very much underground and secretive and VERY serious to deal with. Even though the Gvt has worked hard at eliminating Gangs, the ways and means they use to do so have come very much at a high cost to the rights and safety of it's Citizens.
you're right G .. I want a good robust democracy devoid of MMP, unmandated agendas, post election deals, and minorities rooting our country. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:43:10 GMT 12
Remember what happened in the 90s/2000s in the US with crime? The frightening rise of murders & violent crime of the 90s started to decline as we entered the new millennium and everyone congratulated themselves on tougher policies and policing and sentences etc. Until they worked out what the biggest contributory factor actually was. Widespread access to birth control & abortion across the US led to fewer kids being born into sub-optimal circumstances. Which massively reduced the pipeline of apprentice criminals. Which massively reduced crime. The tougher policies were a coincidence. comparing NZ to US has been a proven big mistake. They have a genuine racial issue, corrupt police, throw in a discombobulated FBI v CIA and then the red necks... Followed by Bush, Clinton and Trump 💥 We should follow Aussies tough stance on crime or the Singaporean system without the obsessiveness. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:46:09 GMT 12
It is only small time Crime that Singapore has a low rate of. And to maintain that low rate, Singapore is one of the most "watched" Countries in the World. They have CCT everywhere. Even Citizens are known for tracking down someone that has carried out a crime. They don't have an enormous number in Prison, due to the fact that they use other very harsh penalties for enforcement. Even the Death Penalty for Drugs.
Besides, i thought you didn't want Communism Schooner. Such control of Citizens is pretty much the same thing. Kids are educated by the Gvt from a very early age. Penalties for Crimes are some of the harshest in the World. In fact you can do so little in Singapore, that Human Rights Advocates argue that these laws infringe on the rights and Freedoms of citizens.
And then to the other side of the table, more innocent people are arrested and incaserated in Singapore than anywhere else in the World. Because, as many say, their System is over the top and harsh.
However, Gangs, Drugs and Trafficing are still a problem in Singapore. The Gangs remain very much underground and secretive and VERY serious to deal with. Even though the Gvt has worked hard at eliminating Gangs, the ways and means they use to do so have come very much at a high cost to the rights and safety of it's Citizens.
you're right G .. I want a good robust democracy devoid of MMP, unmandated agendas, post election deals, and minorities rooting our country. Also you can do every " legal" thing in Singapore that you can do in NZ.... Without the excesses. |
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Post by eri on Dec 30, 2021 20:45:44 GMT 12
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Post by grounded on Dec 31, 2021 3:58:55 GMT 12
Hmmm, not sure about that article. I have not heard of any of the claims taking place. But I am not saying they are not.
However, the last comment about members leaving and joining other gangs at will is a real no no. I doubt very much that would ever happen. The said member is literaly placing their life in danger doing so. For instance, there are two ways of leaving a Mongrel Mob chapter. You buy your way out. Which means you pay a huge amount of money. I know of one guy that is out that cost hom $60K. Or you choose to take a beating. The Gang lines up and you walk through the line and they all take turns at giving a good beating. The ex member is lucky if he is still able to crawl out at the end of the line. It is serious to leave. If the ex member just leaves and goes to another Gang, they can become a marked man and their life is in Peril. If they ever get caught on their own, they can get killed.
As for the Loyalty part, that is very quickly sorted. There are a whole lot of "Initiations" that a new member goes through to become a full member. And these aren't silly school boy initiations. These are were we see the blazened Crimes taking place. The Liquor Stores and Corner Dairies being done over and even time served in Prison in some cases, are all part of it. You don't just rock up and have a beer with the bros.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 31, 2021 6:58:36 GMT 12
So leaving a yacht club is much easier, just hoist your sails and head into the sunset......Whitman's gang are far more civilized.😉
Crikey I had no issues leaving "crew".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2021 7:34:40 GMT 12
So leaving a yacht club is much easier, just hoist your sails and head into the sunset......Whitman's gang are far more civilized.😉 Crikey I had no issues leaving "crew". well you/ we did until this site saved us from our misery.🤪👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2021 7:48:35 GMT 12
So leaving a yacht club is much easier, just hoist your sails and head into the sunset......Whitman's gang are far more civilized.😉 Crikey I had no issues leaving "crew". the biggest initiation round the north, and I suspect south, is underaged Maori stealing cars commiting burglaries, then trashing the cars by crashing them into trees, ditches, ... Then getting a FGC then going home to start all over again the next night. One dude, who I caught in the act and video'd ( and he never even knew)is on his 8th warning according to the officer in charge. They go thru a Maori restorative justice program which bb basically void the police from action until they are of age. The useless parents don't give a flying Fart and it's left to some elderly rellie to look after them till they escape again. A mate of mine caught two little shits in his garage during the day ( rural property) and he have them a tickle up with his weed eater. Then let them go ... they never went to the police. Time to start naming and shaming... Including thier parents. |
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