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Post by Cantab on Nov 25, 2024 13:51:14 GMT 12
People who worry about not being able to take on 3 wars at the same time should be running around stirring shit and provoking attacks. Either that or its a nice psyop to make their "enemies" think they are weak. Warmongering by arms builders/dealers which ever way you look at it.
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Post by Cantab on Nov 26, 2024 6:24:29 GMT 12
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Post by El Toro on Nov 26, 2024 8:59:40 GMT 12
Except thats the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem.....
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Post by em on Nov 27, 2024 7:07:10 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Nov 27, 2024 8:29:47 GMT 12
You mention the possibility of Russia collapsing before Jan 20th. Is that just stating a deadline due to Trump taking over and turning the geo-political situation on its head, or is there some growing indications Russia could collapse? Given it's about 8 weeks away, things would have to happen quickly from now. It took a decade bogged down in Afghanistan to make it happen last time. If there is some indications it could happen, the next question would be the behaviour of a cornered dictator. Things could get unpredictable and dangerous. I wouldn't expect Putin to leave a huge arsenal unused if he faced personally loosing everything.
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Post by em on Nov 27, 2024 8:42:22 GMT 12
You mention the possibility of Russia collapsing before Jan 20th. Is that just stating a deadline due to Trump taking over and turning the geo-political situation on its head, or is there some growing indications Russia could collapse? Given it's about 8 weeks away, things would have to happen quickly from now. It took a decade bogged down in Afghanistan to make it happen last time. If there is some indications it could happen, the next question would be the behaviour of a cornered dictator. Things could get unpredictable and dangerous. I wouldn't expect Putin to leave a huge arsenal unused if he faced personally loosing everything. It seems like the economy is falling apart at a rapid pace and they are losing gear and people on the front at an alarming pace . Also they are taking major hits on their refineries and manufacturing from drone strikes . Their infrastucture is falling apart and also taking sabotage hits from partisans , especially the railways . There’s a real problem getting things fixed becuase they have lost a lot of men to the war . There’s also speculation that if they feel like it the Saudis could drop the price of oil to lower than what the Russians are selling it to china and India and shut off their main income stream . I guess it all comes down to whether the world wants a Putin/Trump/Musk/Xi coalition or not , there’s only 7 weeks or so to make that decision .
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Post by fish on Nov 27, 2024 14:02:39 GMT 12
It sounds like the real question is, can the Democrats start WW3 before Trump takes over? They've got 8 weeks and the clock is ticking. It would appear that is their objective, just to cut his lunch. Leave a really big feckin mess, and just hand it over, walk away, oh, but keep their mates in the military industrial complex printing loads of cash.
Any truth in the unverified comments from a convo at the boat club today, Britain have launched more storm shadow missiles today, and a 'leak' from Nato that they military side has requested permission from the political side for a "Pre-emptive strike?"
Cause, well, I mean, a pre-emptive strike wont start WW3 or anything, would it?
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Post by GO30 on Nov 27, 2024 18:08:01 GMT 12
Except thats the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem..... I've been there, the wall is silent.
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 28, 2024 8:43:40 GMT 12
An interesting philosophical commentary, particularly in the context of the just announced "ceasefire" between Israel and Hezbollah, on the current conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine goodoil.news/russia-israel-and-the-paradoxes-of-war-2/opens Chess and warfare are filled with paradoxes. Most people don’t play chess, which means they don’t understand war. And it shows. To be fair, the paradoxes of war often bamboozle the uninitiated and can look downright evil or brutal. However, refusing to follow the weird logic of war and strategy leads to a lot of unnecessary bloodshed and the exposure of lies. Here’s one of those paradoxes: the worst road may be the best route to battle. To see how this is true, consider that when moving troops from location A to location B, separated by only 15km, it may be quicker to take a 100km detour than to go in a straight line. Although the distance appears to be close, that’s probably an illusion if the enemy has set ambushes that will slow you down or even force you into a retreat. Another example of a paradox: you should prepare for war if you want peace. A politician might ask: why not simply disarm to bring about peace? This question is not an error; it is just an attempt to escape from the paradox of war. Yet every weapon is both offensive and defensive and by removing weapons you are removing your defences. A defenceless country invites conquest and without weapons it also loses any economic strength from having weapons. Either way, the attempt to remove the conditions for war only creates them. The most important paradox of war for today’s geopolitical context is the maxim, overwhelming violence is actually less bloody than a long war with periodic ‘humanitarian’ ceasefires.
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Post by GO30 on Nov 28, 2024 12:29:52 GMT 12
I watched a vid last evening that went into the Ukrainians cardboard drones verses the fancier ones like the reaper and soon. The cardboard aren't as smart as the fancier ones but the vid argued they were better as for everyone reaper at close to 100 mill each the Ukraine can fly 20,000of their cardboards.
Also the cardboards are not subject to jamming (which transparently is big time rampant in the zone) and can often sneak thru radar as a bird due to such a small reflection. They were ramping up production aiming for 10K of them a month.
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Post by Cantab on Nov 28, 2024 13:28:28 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Nov 29, 2024 15:24:54 GMT 12
Every time I see videos like this of Putin it confirms my suspicion that he’s far more rationale and measured than the West portrays him. Yes he has an agenda - but he’s never hidden that shd he’s always made it very clear where his ‘red lines’ are. The West has a habit of challenging those ‘red lines’ as rhetoric. But they’re simply statements of fact that this is what he wants for Russia. No more and no less. I’ve says it before and I’ll say it again - the West walked straight into the Russian-Ukraine war and it was entirely predictable and avoidable. So is WWIII. IF we would only listen to the ‘enemy’ and plan around that. youtube.com/shorts/iVb--Yh6BbE?si=N0Ybk_aNuHdCU_VI
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Post by fish on Nov 29, 2024 16:18:34 GMT 12
Every time I see videos like this of Putin it confirms my suspicion that he’s far more rationale and measured than the West portrays him. Yes he has an agenda - but he’s never hidden that shd he’s always made it very clear where his ‘red lines’ are. The West has a habit of challenging those ‘red lines’ as rhetoric. But they’re simply statements of fact that this is what he wants for Russia. No more and no less. I’ve says it before and I’ll say it again - the West walked straight into the Russian-Ukraine war and it was entirely predictable and avoidable. So is WWIII. IF we would only listen to the ‘enemy’ and plan around that. youtube.com/shorts/iVb--Yh6BbE?si=N0Ybk_aNuHdCU_VIHave you completely lost your mind? Dumb as this table (knocks on table)... Has a direct way with words. I can't imagine Sir Keir Stammer talking that straight.
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Post by harrytom on Nov 29, 2024 17:50:03 GMT 12
Every time I see videos like this of Putin it confirms my suspicion that he’s far more rationale and measured than the West portrays him. Yes he has an agenda - but he’s never hidden that shd he’s always made it very clear where his ‘red lines’ are. The West has a habit of challenging those ‘red lines’ as rhetoric. But they’re simply statements of fact that this is what he wants for Russia. No more and no less. I’ve says it before and I’ll say it again - the West walked straight into the Russian-Ukraine war and it was entirely predictable and avoidable. So is WWIII. IF we would only listen to the ‘enemy’ and plan around that. youtube.com/shorts/iVb--Yh6BbE?si=N0Ybk_aNuHdCU_VIPutin needs Ukraine. He has no warm water port for navy.
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