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Post by fish on Dec 7, 2023 7:54:47 GMT 12
Wonder if the Nats will stop the carbon credit tree planting exercise? No, the need the revenue for the tax cuts. They have said they wont tinker with the rules, like Labour, so that the market gets more confidence in the system and can invest / by credits without getting shafted. |
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Post by GO30 on Dec 7, 2023 10:10:30 GMT 12
Wonder if the Nats will stop the carbon credit tree planting exercise? Nope but they are looking at tuning it to slow or stop so much pine weed being planted.
GOOD!!!!!
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Post by GO30 on Dec 7, 2023 10:27:01 GMT 12
A good read on the Jeannie that is the ETS and our future with it keithwoodford.wordpress.com/2023/12/05/carbon-farming-needs-long-term-rules/ basically the labour govt were going to fiddle the rules a little so they could profit more from the scheme but the new govt put a holt to that. trouble is the consumers will continue to get a rodgering as it stands... big implications whichever way is taken. A thinking person wouldn't of even created the Jeannie in the first place. Chatting with my rurals you often hear 'but who knows what they will decide to change tomorrow/next week' which very strongly suggests you're completely right, the rural are expecting shit to change soon so they struggle to make long term plans with confidence.
I'm in that very space as I write this. We're in KDC, a particularly boshie area when talking climate crap and Maori. I've acquired a excavator to scrape my waterways before planting and fencing them off, something I have zero issue with and personally I want to do anyway no matter all the other blaa blaa. So I have made a plan on how that will happen, started scoring trees etc and have stockpiled fencing gear. I have already whacked in 500m of fence down one side of 2 sections. But BOOM out of left field a month or so back the lovies are now talking about changing the set back from the national 3m to a KDC only 10m. 500m of fence may have just become redundant and I have stopped any more fencing of waterways. I want to progress this fast and was but all of a sudden we come to a screaming halt due to bureaucracy not thinking long term nor being any fecking good at communication.
If they do decide 10m a lot of cockies are not going to be happy at the huge amount of land they will lose. We'll have to fence off 12-13% of our farms total area. And then add in the hillside suggestion of closing off any land with more than 25 degrees slope to all animals. That will mean Northlands usable grazing areas will decrease by 25-30%. That'll make cockies even more happy.
But that's all talk so while the cock wombles flap their jaws the rural can do many things but long term forward planning is not one of them.
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Post by harrytom on Dec 7, 2023 11:38:01 GMT 12
A good read on the Jeannie that is the ETS and our future with it keithwoodford.wordpress.com/2023/12/05/carbon-farming-needs-long-term-rules/ basically the labour govt were going to fiddle the rules a little so they could profit more from the scheme but the new govt put a holt to that. trouble is the consumers will continue to get a rodgering as it stands... big implications whichever way is taken. A thinking person wouldn't of even created the Jeannie in the first place. Chatting with my rurals you often hear 'but who knows what they will decide to change tomorrow/next week' which very strongly suggests you're completely right, the rural are expecting shit to change soon so they struggle to make long term plans with confidence.
I'm in that very space as I write this. We're in KDC, a particularly boshie area when talking climate crap and Maori. I've acquired a excavator to scrape my waterways before planting and fencing them off, something I have zero issue with and personally I want to do anyway no matter all the other blaa blaa. So I have made a plan on how that will happen, started scoring trees etc and have stockpiled fencing gear. I have already whacked in 500m of fence down one side of 2 sections. But BOOM out of left field a month or so back the lovies are now talking about changing the set back from the national 3m to a KDC only 10m. 500m of fence may have just become redundant and I have stopped any more fencing of waterways. I want to progress this fast and was but all of a sudden we come to a screaming halt due to bureaucracy not thinking long term nor being any fecking good at communication.
If they do decide 10m a lot of cockies are not going to be happy at the huge amount of land they will lose. We'll have to fence off 12-13% of our farms total area. And then add in the hillside suggestion of closing off any land with more than 25 degrees slope to all animals. That will mean Northlands usable grazing areas will decrease by 25-30%. That'll make cockies even more happy.
But that's all talk so while the cock wombles flap their jaws the rural can do many things but long term forward planning is not one of them.
Govt will have to get the cheque book out and buy the unusable land. |
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Dec 7, 2023 15:31:32 GMT 12
Taken from today's NZ taxpayers union comms ..
WTF!!!!!
At a confidential briefing last night, we discovered that the Department of Internal Affairs has hired 427 policy officials for Three Waters. That is whole office floors of bureaucrats working on policy alone.
As we suspected, they worked right through the election period – and were even signing binding contracts after the election and while the coalition deals were being negotiated!
The 427 people are nothing to do with actual front-line services, infrastructure maintenance, pipes, or actual water (that’s the job for the separate army of officials that have been hired by the new co-governed water entities). The 427 is just the central bureaucracy to set up and design policy applicable to the Three Waters co-governed entities!
In short, it’s all at risk, Graham. Unless we kick back into gear, it was all for nothing. There’s no nice way to put this, but we need your urgent support.
What we now know: officials have set a trap for the incoming government
The officials have gone about and signed up to exorbitant office leases, IT contracts we understand will cost around $500 million, and $12 million for 'iwi collectives' deepening the roots of co-governance.
All up, it looks like the officials have racked-up a billion dollars of contracted costs that the new Government can’t get out of
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Post by GO30 on Dec 8, 2023 8:59:27 GMT 12
Sadly Labour have a track record of leaving financial holes and messes.
There's been rumours for easy 2 months that due to the inevitable mines were being laid for the incoming Govt.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 17, 2023 8:35:06 GMT 12
Holy disaster...
NZ's GDP now the lowest in the world and now fully negative.
Financial mines left behind some of which seem very deliberate or are the result of a total lack on understanding of economies.
Inflation thru the roof as some fuckwits seemingly had no idea what would happen if you drop 50 billion into an economy.
Largest tax tax in history and it has achieved exactly sweet fuck all, less than considering where so much waste has gone.
And just like the last time a Labour lead Govt got the flick they leave the country in a recession.
Next time we elect a Labour lead Government can we ensure they have better economic knowledge or they put a Cheese Toasted in as Minister of Finance, it surly can't do any worse than the last few.
This is going to take some pain to correct so many will, and some already are, finding it nasty. The fast growing number of redundancies suggests this Xmas is not going to be a good one for far too many. The fast growing number of business failures only reinforces that.
It is not going to be a fun few years that's for sure. But fingers crossed we have a decent weather Xmas/New Year period as the country desperately needs a decompress at the moment. If we do get that I feel we should get a case of happiness break out which will hopefully be contagious which will lead to a happier economy working better for everyone.
The NZ Labour Party and the NZ National Party, the 2nd and 3rd biggest problems NZ has. Easily the biggest problem is the stupidity of the NZ voter in allowing themselves to be play so easily.
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Post by harrytom on Dec 17, 2023 9:07:26 GMT 12
As Robertson said to Willis.You viewed the books you saw the state but if you cant read finacial statements not my problem. Yes unemployment to rise sharply but its ok .No fear of loosing job.Been the busiest peak period in yrs.And looks to continue next yr as more Maccas to built. Browns bay you had one now you are getting another.Waiuku and Kumeu and looking at Dargiville.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 17, 2023 9:48:25 GMT 12
As Robertson said to Willis.You viewed the books you saw the state but if you cant read finacial statements not my problem. I reiterate my comment about the NZ voters. That was headline stuff, it's what's now being seen behind all of that. Shit loads of stuff that has been promised but not funded, looks like lots seriously underfunded the ferries being just one example and a lot more.
I did have a moment yesterdays when I though this is the shit hoisted on us and so so many seem to only want more of it. A pair of opposition twats wapping on in total horror, fear and loathing that Willis is a historian by trade. The opposition twats reckoned that signed NZ to the pits of hell due to no experience. The report pumped them up a lot when he should have simply said 'We have just had 6 years of financial disaster and sabotage due in big part to a Minister of Finance who trained as a Historian'. But that's the sad state of our heavily bias MSM, the term 'balanced journalism' is a totally foreign concept to our media commentators, both words are.
Not so OK if you are one of the 90 odd, probably more, who will be told tomorrow 'Sorry but your outta here, Oh and have a good Christmas'. The official number came out last wee that show the economy is down the shitter and that seemed to surprise many of the 'experts' when business has known this for easy 6 months and probably a bit longer.
But I love environments like this as we pick up so much business off the big names as all their purchasing teams were told to do the same thing by the Unis that trained them. Know how to knobble one and you know how to knobble them all.
A Maccas in Dargie, oh good golly the world is going mad. Maybe it will displace one of the 7 vape shops. Mind you the Government my need those 7 shops when they change the law to physically force children and Maori to smoke, or so you'd think from the protesters, many who think killing a baby is perfectly fine as long as it is not an Israeli or Palestinian, depending on which side you genuinely has to be seriously fucked up thinking wants to pick.
Now we've decided the world is indeed completely nuts I have a big Ducati wanting for me..... keep off Ararua Road for a while, big red is coming and she's doing it at pace. New tyres so I gotta have a suss  |
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Post by harrytom on Dec 17, 2023 10:04:58 GMT 12
HaHa I test rode a BMW 650 something for the boy,40 since on a bike and be another 40 before I get back on one. Yes I will be dead by then
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Post by dutyfree on Dec 17, 2023 14:50:24 GMT 12
So let’s be clear Robertson does not deny he left a shit show, just that National should have look closer. No one calls him out on that.
Just bought a multstrada. 2016. Loving it.
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 17, 2023 20:03:55 GMT 12
As Robertson said to Willis.You viewed the books you saw the state but if you cant read finacial statements not my problem.
Now we've decided the world is indeed completely nuts I have a big Ducati wanting for me..... keep off Ararua Road for a while, big red is coming and she's doing it at pace. New tyres so I gotta have a suss Hope that is in a better state than Paparoa Rd, took the long way to Whangarei along it last weekend, what a dog's breakfast with all the road works. I appreciate it got chopped up with the Brynderwyn closure early in the year, but the repairs seem very haphazard. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 17, 2023 20:05:50 GMT 12
As Robertson said to Willis.You viewed the books you saw the state but if you cant read finacial statements not my problem. Come on HT, you know better than that, the whole issue is what was not in the financial statements in all the "off the books" expenditure and commitments. |
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Post by harrytom on Dec 17, 2023 22:19:40 GMT 12
As Robertson said to Willis.You viewed the books you saw the state but if you cant read finacial statements not my problem. Come on HT, you know better than that, the whole issue is what was not in the financial statements in all the "off the books" expenditure and commitments. Remember Labour said,"Open and Transparent" so it must of been there for all to see?? Was Willis asleep in the house while Labour went on the spending spree? |
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Post by Cantab on Dec 18, 2023 4:59:53 GMT 12
There was a section in the budget "Unfunded promises, contractual obligations, cost blowouts we have been sitting on and other surprises" just ask Robbie, he will point you straight to it.
We have been told for ages it will take trillions to be carbon neutral, which may or may not actually change the climate, its all in there somewhere. "No surprises"
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