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Post by GO30 on Sept 20, 2024 9:23:32 GMT 12
One of our custys rates bill is 185K, the new city plan has that growing to over 380K in 5 years. He is not amused.
He's found another big chunk of land 50m on the otherside of the Hamo border,on sussing he was told the rates for that land is 18K a year.
He built a big flash factory on the pricy land, the other is bare.
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Post by fish on Sept 20, 2024 9:37:17 GMT 12
One of our custys rates bill is 185K, the new city plan has that growing to over 380K in 5 years. He is not amused. He's found another big chunk of land 50m on the otherside of the Hamo border,on sussing he was told the rates for that land is 18K a year. He built a big flash factory on the pricy land, the other is bare. How can one business have rates of $185k? That is absurd. I'm assuming it is a dry process customer, i.e. not like a wet process outfit like a meat works or something has has massive tradewaste costs and very high water consumption, as in the rates are due directly to direct costs for services. I'm assuming it is a dry outfit like a warehouse / distribution / boat sales yard / boat manufacturing plant. All consist of employees, drive to work on roads, use minimal water and wastewater, and spend lots of money in the local economy. |
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Post by GO30 on Sept 20, 2024 9:53:45 GMT 12
It is a big building/property, they build shit which is all done inside.
There would be shed loads who'd love to pay as little as 185K in rates.
The rates we pay vary wildly and there is zero relationship for what each authority provides for there respective sums.
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Post by em on Sept 20, 2024 10:03:52 GMT 12
One of our custys rates bill is 185K, the new city plan has that growing to over 380K in 5 years. He is not amused. He's found another big chunk of land 50m on the otherside of the Hamo border,on sussing he was told the rates for that land is 18K a year. He built a big flash factory on the pricy land, the other is bare. How can one business have rates of $185k? That is absurd. I'm assuming it is a dry process customer, i.e. not like a wet process outfit like a meat works or something has has massive tradewaste costs and very high water consumption, as in the rates are due directly to direct costs for services. I'm assuming it is a dry outfit like a warehouse / distribution / boat sales yard / boat manufacturing plant. All consist of employees, drive to work on roads, use minimal water and wastewater, and spend lots of money in the local economy. Build a factory in a rapidly growing almost coastal area which needs very expensive infrastructure investment to keep growing . |
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Post by fish on Sept 20, 2024 11:28:15 GMT 12
How can one business have rates of $185k? That is absurd. I'm assuming it is a dry process customer, i.e. not like a wet process outfit like a meat works or something has has massive tradewaste costs and very high water consumption, as in the rates are due directly to direct costs for services. I'm assuming it is a dry outfit like a warehouse / distribution / boat sales yard / boat manufacturing plant. All consist of employees, drive to work on roads, use minimal water and wastewater, and spend lots of money in the local economy. Build a factory in a rapidly growing almost coastal area which needs very expensive infrastructure investment to keep growing . Yeah, but it is the same council that is responsible for land zoning, resource consents and building consents for said large factory. If there are specific natural hazard risks to be mitigated that is almost always down to the developer as a consent condition. Sure, some issues are more regional, which can result in a targeted rate for a particular scheme. Either way, the developer / building owner goes in eyes wide open and it is their own commercial choice to build in a certain spot with subsequent mitigation costs. Milldale has some convoluted targeted rate to fund critical infrastructure that enabled the development to proceed. It is not a general rate cause Auckland Council are inefficient. Those types of rates / costs are fairly different to $185k of straight out general rates, as in rates the Council levies cause they can and have nothing better to do. |
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Post by GO30 on Sept 20, 2024 15:13:34 GMT 12
Nothing new or tricky, just bog standard Te Rapa.
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Post by fish on Sept 22, 2024 10:36:19 GMT 12
Can't remember which thread we were talking about power prices and manufacturing closing down, but this one will do. Current spot prices per Megawatt hour are between $4 and $4.30. Last month they were between $700 and $1,000. It is beyound me how any business or consumer can function in a market with that much volatility... Sure I know why the power price as dropped, the unreliables have come back online. Not much good if it costs you $50 to make a cup of tea (boil the kettle) one month and 3 cents the next. app.em6.co.nz/ |
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Post by GO30 on Sept 22, 2024 15:46:36 GMT 12
Can't remember which thread we were talking about power prices and manufacturing closing down, but this one will do. Current spot prices per Megawatt hour are between $4 and $4.30. Last month they were between $700 and $1,000. It is beyound me how any business or consumer can function in a market with that much volatility... Sure I know why the power price as dropped, the unreliables have come back online. Not much good if it costs you $50 to make a cup of tea (boil the kettle) one month and 3 cents the next. app.em6.co.nz/The bleaters were predominately those who decided to play in the wholesale market. The idea being that buy at wholesale rates as they consume LOTS. But what most apparently forgot is wholesalers are often price stabilisers i.e run a 'swings and roundabouts program' by absorbing much of the pain when prices spike up and them make that back when prices have a down spike.
We have been doing the same thing with many of our imported products since and due to covid. At one stage just after we got paroled we had a price spike that if things ran like usual a metre of good 10mm anchor chain would be retailing for around $60. So we took that pain and made it up else where. It's quite common with those who care or who have the ability to change the market dynamics reasonably easy.
So while I have some sympathy for some he bleaters, methanex and some like that, for many I also have to add 'If you wanna get in and play the game to enrichen yourself don't start bitching about the rules when you find there is a downside'.
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Post by Cantab on Oct 1, 2024 8:40:55 GMT 12
Imagine what we could achieve if we devoted our research initiatives to Engineering Real Science and Technology instead of Social Science and Maori world views.
Actually we don't have to imagine it, other countries are doing it.
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Post by fish on Oct 1, 2024 9:03:45 GMT 12
I was listening to a discussion on RNZ in the car yesterday. It was jaw dropping.
The guy was Maori and introduced himself that he came from a union based family and I think his father was a maritime worker - this was for full disclosure in the context of discussing the govt and the rail ferries.
The lady was a National Party member and does election work for Nicola Willis. I wasn't actually paying that much attention at this stage.
Anyway, the discussion was around govt performance of many things, and got onto education.
The guy was critical of dropping funding for Te Reo in favour of maths. He stated that if you only speak English, you will only have an English view of things. Therefore, everyone should speak Te Reo, so we have a different view of the world than English. OK, I thought, I am interested in hearing other views, so good on him.
He then went on to say that maths is a waste of time, and that Maori and Pacifica have no place in learning Pythagoras Theorem. So he actually said that, based on race, these kids have no need for that type of knowledge.
The lady chimes in and says, well, you need to learn that type of stuff if you want to have a range of professional careers such as architects, designers etc. The guy responded that Maori and Pacifica kids aren't interested in being architects or designers. I thought that was jaw dropping.
The lady quickly responded that she thought everyone should have the same opportunities for a successful education and career. I had to go into my meeting at this point, but the thing that really shook me was this Maori guy saying that based on race these kids should not be learning pythagoras, that was "not for them"
Imagine if you are being told that because of who you are, you should not be learning anything technical? Because of your race? I couldn't believe it. It was the same all through the pandemic, where they would report Maori vax rates separately, daily, telling Maori how stupid they were by not getting vaxxed.
The same guy also said that our education system was foisted upon us by Britain. And that the school day is not set up for Maori and Pacifica, it is set up for teachers, being 9 till 3. He suggested maybe 10 till 6pm would better suit Maori?!?! On that point, it sounded like he was building an argument for Seymour's charter schools, they can do anything they want, including have a school day of any length they want.
As Seymour says, there are no examples ever, anywhere in the world, of countries becoming wealthy by segregating on race.
As a disclaimer, I understand Pythagoras theorem, but can't speak Te Reo. This Maori guy clearly doesn't understand Pythagoras. So we are probably looking at a basic bias toward what we are personally familiar with. That in itself is interesting. But, it terms of economic prosperity, this guy was argueing that thinking differently to English would somehow make as prosperous, where as the white lady was argueing that learning technical knowledge would make us prosperous. I know which argument is more compelling.
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Post by chariot on Oct 2, 2024 8:23:26 GMT 12
As I put in another post. When in France recently I was interested to learn that they start school at 3 and immediately start learning English as well as their native language. Then at 6 they start learning German then a 4th language at high school, usually Spanish or Italian. The reason being, that those are the languages of commerce in the EU. I can't imagine they would forego maths for another language.
Maori can be their own worst enemy.
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 2, 2024 10:09:17 GMT 12
He then went on to say that maths is a waste of time, and that Maori and Pacifica have no place in learning Pythagoras Theorem. So he actually said that, based on race, these kids have no need for that type of knowledge. Hmm I remember in "the olden days" when the troops received their pay in envelopes containing a pay slip and real money. The Maori and PI workers, who during the week had not shown much affinity with Einstein's theory of relativity, were suddenly transformed and scrutinised their pay slips and the envelopes' contents with great diligence and we would hear about it very quickly if there was an error of even 1 cent!
Maths never seems to be a problem when calculating your benefit entitlement or on the larger scale the Iwi's latest ToW settlement.
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Post by fish on Oct 2, 2024 10:36:19 GMT 12
He then went on to say that maths is a waste of time, and that Maori and Pacifica have no place in learning Pythagoras Theorem. So he actually said that, based on race, these kids have no need for that type of knowledge. Hmm I remember in "the olden days" when the troops received their pay in envelopes containing a pay slip and real money. The Maori and PI workers, who during the week had not shown much affinity with Einstein's theory of relativity, were suddenly transformed and scrutinised their pay slips and the envelopes' contents with great diligence and we would hear about it very quickly if there was an error of even 1 cent!
Maths never seems to be a problem when calculating your benefit entitlement or on the larger scale the Iwi's latest ToW settlement.
It is funny you mention that, because the Maori guy did say that all the Maori kids need to know is how much money is coming in, how much is going out, and how much profit is in between. The irony being that his own argument justifies the need for a basic maths knowledge. Clearly wasn't the class debating champion if his own argument supports the other ladies argument. |
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Post by fish on Oct 10, 2024 21:00:17 GMT 12
Remember last winter in Southland, they banned the feeding of winter fodder like turnips? Well, know 3,000 farmers need to apply for resource consent just to farm.......... Fish and Game and Forest and Bird took Environment Southland to court over the meaning of Section 70 of the Resource Management Act, which sets out restrictions on when a council can include a permitted discharge rule in a plan. The court ruled in favour of Fish and Game, requiring all farmers in Southland to apply for resource consent to farm lawfully.
Southland Federated Farmers president Jason Herrick called for farmers to join it in boycotting fishing licences, and to remove fishing access by taking down access signs, after the court decision. "Southland Fish and Game were one of the main groups pushing for that decision, which is an absolute kick in the guts for farmers down here," Herrick said. "Farmers have always allowed anglers to walk across their land as a gesture of goodwill but, unfortunately, that goodwill has been completely eroded by Southland Fish & Game. "Farmers can replace those signs with an orange ribbon to show their frustration with Fish and Game, and anyone else who wants to show their support could do that by attaching an orange ribbon to their roadside gate as well. www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350446473/feds-call-southland-farmers-boycott-fish-and-game |
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Post by harrytom on Oct 11, 2024 3:20:24 GMT 12
Funny how Niccola Willis with her over spend speech last night.Failed to mention the 500 million they have invested in the cancelled ferry deal.
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