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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 8:10:50 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Apr 5, 2022 7:20:15 GMT 12
If you take out the terrorism and pandemics that have hogged the headlines, history will judge its main policy obsession as transforming our constitution. It doesn't matter what the question was, co-governance is the answer.
Labour has taken the co-governance concept from a way to manage assets that are subject to Treaty settlements, such as Auckland's volcanic cones, to the default setting for managing public affairs. Some representatives are democratically elected, others appointed by iwi. Appointment by ancestry is reminiscent of a medieval model that fits better in 1443 than 2043.
Healthcare, Three Waters, councils, registering new breeds of plants. All this and more is being frantically stamped with co-governance. It's not based on the Treaty. None of these things existed in 1840 so this is not settling a claim.
The closest the courts have come to saying the Treaty is a "partnership" is that it created a relationship "akin to a partnership", meaning that people should treat each other respectfully.
The idea that the Treaty is a partnership requiring co-governance of everything is a hopeful invention of the current Government and its officials.
www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-seymour-why-co-governance-isnt-our-future/2DYW62TDHHC3P4KHYJAYFVPTPU/
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Post by armchairadmiral on Apr 5, 2022 8:27:04 GMT 12
Sounds great and I have agreement. So what ? Do you really think ACT would actually do that. 18 months out from an election all political parties promise anything and everything and almost universally fail to deliver 10% ,to name a number, Except the bimbo and her bunch of inept communist buddies. They're delivering 100% on their hidden agenda.Aided and assisted by a powerful communistic thinking civil service. Governments govern for themselves (witness Covid rules for power and control) the bureaucracy facilitates that and the people can eat cake to coin a phrase . My prediction is no matter who gets in next election very little of what this mob are doing will be undone. They know it and that's why they're going hell for leather turning NZ over to the maoris, ,beneficiaries and the bureaucracy.
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Post by fish on Apr 5, 2022 10:08:34 GMT 12
Sounds great and I have agreement. So what ? Do you really think ACT would actually do that. 18 months out from an election all political parties promise anything and everything and almost universally fail to deliver 10% ,to name a number, Except the bimbo and her bunch of inept communist buddies. They're delivering 100% on their hidden agenda.Aided and assisted by a powerful communistic thinking civil service. Governments govern for themselves (witness Covid rules for power and control) the bureaucracy facilitates that and the people can eat cake to coin a phrase . My prediction is no matter who gets in next election very little of what this mob are doing will be undone. They know it and that's why they're going hell for leather turning NZ over to the maoris, ,beneficiaries and the bureaucracy. You may be right (will ACT actually do that) But I'd far prefer ACT to be making an issue of this now and getting some attention and debate on this co governance BS than to have complete silence, allowing Labour to sneak it through and NZ sleep walk into a race based feudal constitutional structure. If you look at the mechanics of implementing co governance, firstly, it is death by 1,000 cuts. It is not one big policy change (say like a budget day announcement to double tax on smokes), it is something here, something over there, none of which are notable enough to get a headline, or in many cases to even be reported (example, all Councils requiring new street names to be te reo, wasn't ever reported until DP posted it). The second thing, is reading up on this stuff is as boring as bat shit. The Huaraki Gulf users group thing moving to co governance, fuck me that stuff is hard to read. The Maori seats on local councils, most people here something about Council and just zone out. Or you hear something about something to do with a treaty settlement, and zone out. Neckminit, they are wanting to fell or the lovely mature trees around Mt Eden, cause they were planted by white people... So yeah, ACT may not get the job done, but at least they are wanting to get the job done, they are raising the issue and pushing the agenda... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 19:07:02 GMT 12
Sounds great and I have agreement. So what ? Do you really think ACT would actually do that. 18 months out from an election all political parties promise anything and everything and almost universally fail to deliver 10% ,to name a number, Except the bimbo and her bunch of inept communist buddies. They're delivering 100% on their hidden agenda.Aided and assisted by a powerful communistic thinking civil service. Governments govern for themselves (witness Covid rules for power and control) the bureaucracy facilitates that and the people can eat cake to coin a phrase . My prediction is no matter who gets in next election very little of what this mob are doing will be undone. They know it and that's why they're going hell for leather turning NZ over to the maoris, ,beneficiaries and the bureaucracy. You may be right (will ACT actually do that) But I'd far prefer ACT to be making an issue of this now and getting some attention and debate on this co governance BS than to have complete silence, allowing Labour to sneak it through and NZ sleep walk into a race based feudal constitutional structure. If you look at the mechanics of implementing co governance, firstly, it is death by 1,000 cuts. It is not one big policy change (say like a budget day announcement to double tax on smokes), it is something here, something over there, none of which are notable enough to get a headline, or in many cases to even be reported (example, all Councils requiring new street names to be te reo, wasn't ever reported until DP posted it). The second thing, is reading up on this stuff is as boring as bat shit. The Huaraki Gulf users group thing moving to co governance, fuck me that stuff is hard to read. The Maori seats on local councils, most people here something about Council and just zone out. Or you hear something about something to do with a treaty settlement, and zone out. Neckminit, they are wanting to fell or the lovely mature trees around Mt Eden, cause they were planted by white people... So yeah, ACT may not get the job done, but at least they are wanting to get the job done, they are raising the issue and pushing the agenda... agree 👍💯% |
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Post by chariot on May 1, 2022 15:09:24 GMT 12
Went and listened to Seymore this morning. He is a very good speaker but I am not yet swayed to vote for him. This could change closer to the election. He is definitely strongly apposed to this co governance crap. He had a full house which is pretty good for a mid term meeting. I guess that shows the level of discontent around NZ.
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Post by fish on May 1, 2022 15:37:17 GMT 12
Went and listened to Seymore this morning. He is a very good speaker but I am not yet swayed to vote for him. This could change closer to the election. He is definitely strongly apposed to this co governance crap. He had a full house which is pretty good for a mid term meeting. I guess that shows the level of discontent around NZ. For some reason, he has a high presence on my FB feed. But the Labour MPs I'm following seem to have disappeared. Admittedly if they do post something I normally put rather negative comments on their posts. It is very interesting in itself that ACT are doing a road show and public meetings now. And every more interesting that they are getting strong attendance. A political meeting sounds less exciting than the average yacht club AGM, so to be getting good attendance says alot. I haven't seen the bald white guy doing such public meetings... |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 20:46:34 GMT 12
The Lux is playing a waiting game.
. going hard and early gives the bint Stalinda time to counter the attack and build defences.
Lux will give Stalinda some rope then 💥 boom! Hit her hard and on point....
Well that's my reasoning for his "lack of attack "
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Post by chariot on May 1, 2022 20:50:57 GMT 12
Seymore would do well on the speaking circuit when he has finished with politics. He's very entertaining and a funny guy.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 21:01:42 GMT 12
Yip. But I can't understand why he doesn't get more cut through?
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Post by chariot on May 2, 2022 9:11:35 GMT 12
Maybe it's the calibre of the rest of the candidates.
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Post by GO30 on May 2, 2022 19:31:21 GMT 12
Yip. But I can't understand why he doesn't get more cut through?
I'm going to say 55 million reasons.
To get heard you need MSM to be on side or at least independent.
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Post by eri on May 13, 2022 13:02:55 GMT 12
Chris Hipkins admitted 40 per cent of the growth in government workers under Ardern has been for the likes of policy analysts and communications advisers rather than teachers, nurses, doctors and police, Act rightly promises to butcher Wellington's bloated bureaucracy back to its 2017 numbers.
Clark and Key's multibillion-dollar corporate welfare machine would be abolished, along with Ardern's additions like the Provincial Growth Fund and handouts for "shovel-ready" projects that aren't.
Make-work schemes for sociology graduates like the Ministry of Māori Development, the Human Rights Commission, the Office for Crown-Māori Relations, the Ministry for Pacific Peoples, the Ministry for Ethnic Communities and the Ministry for Women would also go.
None has achieved any purchase in Wellington anyway. Social progress hasn't come from the Wellington lanyard class, but from institutions like the courts, the Waitangi Tribunal, the Office of Treaty Settlements and non-governmental agencies, all of which would remain or grow under Act.www.nzherald.co.nz/business/matthew-hooton-act-spices-up-bland-political-diet/RIG2PVAP2QF7PSANBXJ5BFKOMY/
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Post by eri on May 17, 2022 12:05:28 GMT 12
with their sense of; entitlement, victim blaming, racism, and hate of democracy maori academia probably doing more to increase the ACT vote than anything else “It’s easy to make old white people scared of brown people."are we also scared of east asians and indians, aren't they brown too? or by brown people does he mean polynesian? in which case is it harder to make asians scared of polynesians than white people? maori academics expect us to believe that the cure to racism is a special new form of racismas defined by them which allows them to take whatever they want from whoever has itwww.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/128656032/moral-panic-over-ramraids-exacerbates-the-problem-experts-say |
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Post by eri on May 30, 2022 20:23:38 GMT 12
slowly creeping to cuba
with comrade jacinta"An industry regulator, more codes of conduct, compulsory pricing - only Labour could possibly think those measures would increase competition in the supermarket industry," he said. "Chucking even more regulations on the sector is going to do the complete opposite, it will disincentivise ambitious people from entering the industry and creating more competition." Part of the Government's plan is calling on the supermarket duopoly - Foodstuffs and Woolworths NZ - to open up their wholesale arms to would-be competitors at a fair price. Clark gave a warning that if supermarkets don't strike a deal with competitors, regulatory measures "will make it happen for them". But Seymour said entering the market is already nearly impossible with the current regulatory barriers.
"If it's too hard to build a house, imagine a supermarket," he said."We should make it easier to develop property, easier to get foreign direct investment into the country, and easier to employ people."It's too hard to build, too hard to invest, too hard to do business in New Zealand. If we want a bustling, competitive supermarket industry, we need to attract big players by showing them an industry they want to invest in. Instead they'll look at Australia which attracts 80 percent more foreign investment per capita."www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/government-s-supermarket-sector-clampdown-will-have-complete-opposite-effect-it-wants-david-seymour.html
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