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Post by eri on Apr 14, 2023 15:26:21 GMT 12
gov. departments bringing in a new definition for racism "Several of the complainants argue the poem is racist. Racism is typically defined as discrimination by a powerful institution, group or person against a group or person based on their race or ethnicity. In colloquial terms, it means 'punching down'. So while less powerful groups or people can be discriminatory (and therefore subject to Media Council principles) they can seldom be racist."In response to the council's decision, ACT leader David Seymour said Kiwis "will be appalled that a double standard is being applied to racism in the media.www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/04/media-council-tosses-out-complaints-about-tusiata-avia-the-savage-coloniser-poem-published-on-stuff.htmlnz needs a written constitution guaranteeing all races are treated equally gov. help to be delivered on the basis of need and not race etc.i only see ACT as capable of providing what other countries take for granted
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Post by eri on May 10, 2023 8:01:10 GMT 12
How ACT wants to end 'tag-and-release game' of juvenile offending ACT is calling for tougher consequences to tackle New Zealand's youth crime problem, saying criminals feel invincible due to the lack of punishments. The party announced on Monday it want to spend half a billion dollars on building youth detention centres, including 200 new beds, that would be run by the Department of Corrections if elected into Government at this year's election. ACT leader David Seymour told AM Early on Wednesday since there are few consequences for youth offending, offenders continue to commit crimes. " These kids will bash up a store to steal two Moro bars and put it on TikTok because there's no serious consequence that they face that is remotely proportional to the suffering of people just trying to do an honest day's work in their dairy or shop or whatever," That's where ACT's proposal of a detention centre comes in, as Seymour feels it's the way to rehabilitate youth criminals and stop this "tag and release game". Seymour believes the current system of t aking some youth offenders to Oranga Tamariki facilities isn't working and he is calling for change. "There's got to be an ultimate consequence. Right now, kids know there's nothing that can really happen to them,"www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/05/how-act-wants-to-end-tag-and-release-game-of-juvenile-offending.html
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Post by jim on May 15, 2023 12:51:59 GMT 12
Act was on my "maybe" list but i have reservations ...https://hatchardreport.com/fact-check-david-seymour-says-we-have-no-excess-deaths-is-he-right/ this country needs a leader / leaders that can see BS from 20 paces, not subscribe to it. a real pity as so much of their policy is worthy of support. sorry David.
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Post by armchairadmiral on May 15, 2023 15:17:36 GMT 12
Talking to the wannow last night. Mentioned ACT. Got a reaction not expected as they are generally apolitical. We're voting National. Why ? to get rid of this bunch of crooks and not risking our votes elsewhere. What's Nats policy says me. Don't know ,don't care. Just get rid of this lot.
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Post by jim on May 15, 2023 17:03:07 GMT 12
Fair point - top priority - get rid of this lot... although if it looks like Matt King is likely to win Northland then a vote for DNZ won't be wasted at all - he may end up having a few MPs to represent traditional kiwis . actually quite a few i know voted labour last time soley to keep the greens at bay - they've been the picture of remorse ever since ... i must check in to see what their new strategy is as there is now quite a list of those to keep out .
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Post by fish on May 15, 2023 20:34:48 GMT 12
Act was on my "maybe" list but i have reservations ...https://hatchardreport.com/fact-check-david-seymour-says-we-have-no-excess-deaths-is-he-right/ this country needs a leader / leaders that can see BS from 20 paces, not subscribe to it. a real pity as so much of their policy is worthy of support. sorry David. You might waste a lot of energy trying to find the perfect Politician. It has to be up there with hunting for rocking horse shit. Some pragmatism might be required. ACT definitely have a lot of positives going for them. I'm very uncomfortable with Seymour wanting to stop benefits for those that don't full out the census. I told him so and why, and got a reply very promptly too. Given that we already have $2,000 fines and criminal prosecutions, it just looked like benefit bashing. His response was that people have responsibilities in return for liberties, and if they are taking taxpayer money they need to meet their responsibilities. My main point to him was that we want small govt that stays out of peoples lives, lets us get on with being productive, i.e. the exact opposite of Labour. Same with his nonsense about fining parents who's kids skip school. I thought govt meddling in peoples lives was the opposite of Libertarianism. So previously ACT was a sure thing for me, and now I'm 'luke-warm'. Definitely if Democracy NZ looked viable I'd vote them, they have a number of sound looking candidates. If Act and Democracy NZ don't work out, I may be forced to vote National for the first time ever.
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Post by GO30 on May 16, 2023 9:14:37 GMT 12
I wondered so I sussed who my MPs today are to find they are - Simon Watt Willow Jean Prime Kelvin Davis
Heard the name, got the flyer in the mail. Heard the name, seen the adverts in the local rag, still not overly sure she is a real person or someone's gone large with the Photoshop. Muppet
I'm amused you think the politicians are going to do/get what they say they will. Some of the posts scream 'Stockholm Syndrome'. Secondary Parties can talk a huge talk knowing when push comes to shove they can simply say 'you didn't give us enough votes to ensure we have the power to change the {insert Nat or Lab} policy'.
So I'm of the mind you either go full on one of the 2 primary parties or one of the secondaries that will most likely be there i.e. ACT, Green, Maori and lets see if Winny steps in. Going with any of the next tier down won't achieve much... and when I say 'much' I mean 'anything'.
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Post by fish on May 16, 2023 11:10:11 GMT 12
Occasionally in history a third tier party has gotten in and made a big impact. Slightly before my time, but what was Social Credit?
Dear I say it, the first incarnation of the Maori Party, with Tariana Turia and Peta Sharples. But yes, I'd say 8 times out of 10 your vote would be wasted on a third tier party.
It is interesting. Currently the more ACT says the less I like them. I'm trying to understand their logic with dropping the gun register thing, but then I am not a gun owner (need two people to vouch I'm of good character to get my license...)
My next option is National. I currently think Luxon would be competent (that is in relation to the Labour Govt). It seems a bit odd how the deputy is always smiling and nodding behind Luxon. Always. But having heard her actually speak she sounds like she is competent and has some fire in her belly. And paradoxically, some of National's policies are the best I've ever heard. How to increase sustainable lectricity generation, make it a shit-tonne easier to consent a wind or solar farm. Who would have thought? Plus their policy on co-governance, and a few other things.
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Post by El Toro on May 16, 2023 11:31:36 GMT 12
Because its proportional, the best way to vote out this current train wreck is to vote ACT. Going back a few elections and I cant recall which one, but a decade at least, National needed something like 230,000 votes per 1 list MP, ACT, who only had one electorate MP, only need 55,000 party votes for 1 list MP.
Sure ACT have 10 or so in parliament now, so it will require more party votes, but it will be less party votes than National.
Id say it is a sure thing that TMP will get 5 if not more of the maori electorate seats... that's alot to make up if you are on the right.
Its the 'proportional' bit people need to consider
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Post by eri on Jun 19, 2023 22:14:40 GMT 12
"A person who is in great clinical need, has waited a long time, lives far from major medical facilities, and is poor could be Māori, European, Pacific, Indian or Chinese, and they should all be treated equally.
"Racial discrimination has become the official policy of the New Zealand Government.
Moving sick patients up and down health waitlists based on their race is fundamentally un-Kiwi," Seymour said.
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Post by eri on Jun 21, 2023 9:07:29 GMT 12
Van Velden believes what happened with Davidson is not good for New Zealand's democracy, as ACT MPs wanted to figure out why ethnicity plays a factor in deciding wait times for non-urgent surgeries. She told AM Early Kiwis are concerned and anxious about what the new waitlist tool could mean for them and are choosing to keep quiet.She believes conversations need to start happening now and need to be public.
"What I'm hearing in the community is a growing level of resentment and frustration that we've got policy being forced on us by stealth and people don't feel like they can talk about it," she said."It's not racism to have an open discussion when the Government is forcing policy that's based on race into people's lives.
I think we actually need to have an open conversation because I'm actually hearing from people in the community who say, look, I go to my doctor and they say to me, 'If you want this new drug, are you sure you're not just a little bit Māori so we can put you on the list.'"www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/06/act-s-brooke-van-velden-calling-for-open-public-conversations-around-new-surgery-equity-tool.html
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Post by GO30 on Jun 21, 2023 11:28:03 GMT 12
David S need to be a little cautious he doesn't get to cocky. There are the odd things being said that suggests he maybe.
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Post by eri on Sept 17, 2023 16:49:00 GMT 12
Seymour said on Sunday that New Zealand is "at a constitutional crossroad", pulled between being a liberal democracy and elements of co-governance, which he describes as being "power-sharing between one ethnic group and all others". "The current government is presenting New Zealanders with a false choice," Seymour claimed.
"It says that if we want to right the wrongs of the past, cherish Māori language and culture, and give all New Zealanders equal opportunity, then we must throw out universal human rights in favour of co-government.
"We can ensure Māori language and culture are preserved, that every child has equal opportunity, and that the wrongs of the past are put right. Attributing separate rights through co-government will never achieve this, it only causes more division."
"There is nothing in any of the three Treaty articles that suggests Māori should have special rights above other New Zealanders," he said on Sunday.
"The Treaty itself guarantees that "all the ordinary people of New Zealand...have the same rights and duties of citizenship."
All New Zealanders have a basic human right to be treated equally under the law and with equal political worth. One person, one vote."www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/election-2023-act-hammers-home-treaty-referendum-pledge-at-campaign-launch.html
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Post by GO30 on Sept 17, 2023 18:49:27 GMT 12
It's a tricky one. I'm sitting in the 'why bother at all' space but the Govt has to go before it causes more irreversible damage so for that reason alone I'll probably do the walk. But what's the best way to ensure the current muppets do get booted?
I mentioned to my neighbour, an ACT MP, that David is making people nervous and turning some off completely. I suggested he sticks to 3 or so good points and hammer them home, I'd suggest the co-governance referendum, wasteful Govt Depts and one other, of the many options I'd personally like to see the register go purely as the Canadians are in for over 1 billion dollars with theirs and reckon they have maybe 35% of all out there. Add 1 billion to the 50 plus million a year in staff costs alone and that's a shed load of coin that will make fuck all difference.
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Post by Fogg on Sept 19, 2023 18:42:21 GMT 12
What’s more likely to shift the dial back towards more ‘traditional’ NZ by dismantling race-based policies?
Nats or Nats + Act
That’s the key Q for me to determine my vote.
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