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Mar 3, 2022 15:17:19 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Mar 3, 2022 15:17:19 GMT 12
Little countries like us can only try to stand straight and hope. If someone serious had a real crack we'd have big issues.
The US knew the French were going to blow the Rainbow Warrior, which means there is a high chance the UK spooks did as well. Neither said a word. BASTARDS!!!!
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Mar 3, 2022 15:33:51 GMT 12
Post by armchairadmiral on Mar 3, 2022 15:33:51 GMT 12
Any country wanting to take over NZ would only have to put an ad in the Horrild.Taiwan can fight back but we're defenceless. I'd like to believe KM but strategically it may be easier just to let us go.Hardly worth causing a world war over a couple of islands somewhere downunder
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Mar 3, 2022 18:12:57 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 3, 2022 18:12:57 GMT 12
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Mar 3, 2022 19:17:43 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Mar 3, 2022 19:17:43 GMT 12
The west wouldn’t be worried about losing NZ. But they would be worried about a sudden shift in strategic positioning in the S Pacific.
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Mar 4, 2022 10:06:34 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 10:06:34 GMT 12
Sussing around last evening and it seems it looks very much like Putin may have underestimated the Ukrainian defences and the worlds reaction plus many of his own peoples reactions to the whole shambles.
The scary part is next to no one I can find thinks Putin will back down, he's more likely to escalate. There is a few, in places that should have more clues than your average Trevor Hohepa, whom seem to think his talk of Nukes is quite likely not idle threats. Apparently they have some nice little ones that only fry quite small areas and can be fired by tanks.
If Putin does go full Crazy Ivan it could trigger a massive escalation.
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Mar 4, 2022 10:40:55 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 4, 2022 10:40:55 GMT 12
I'm no geopolitical strategist, but I think the big challenge will be keeping things contained to Ukraine.
Belarus with their crazy Dictator is already involved. Today he let slip a map showing the carve up of Ukraine, but also with Russian forces in Moldova...
Then, what does Europe actually do? If Putin's regime is fully sanctioned, they may well fall into the 'nothing left to loose' space and just do whatever they want.
Yesterday the Ukrainians let slip this plan of Poland and 2 other Nato countries to loan them 70 Mig 29's. The idea being Ukrainian pilots would fly them, so thus Ukrainian assets. I really can't see those jets coming back in 'as new' condition. But the big question is the ground crew, armaments and fuel. So they were going to fly them out of Poland. I would think Rassia would put up with that for, oh, 1 sec, and Poland would be drawn into the war. That, and apparently, the Mig 29's are maintained by Russian contractors... mwahahaa, conflict of interest? I'd expect a spate of mechanical faults mid flight all of a sudden.
The US and Europe / Nato are very clear, they do not want to fight Russia. So Putin's nuclear threat is a real and present deterrent. The question remains, how can you win a war with someone who has nukes, and may well use them?
I can only see a long term economic strangulation, but there are holes all through that, with Germany relying on Russian gas, Brazil not giving a shit and relying on Russian fertiliser, and China, well, being China.
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Mar 4, 2022 12:00:51 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 12:00:51 GMT 12
Yeap agree with that, it could expand very easily very quickly. Also the Belarus dude, he's a bit of a whackjob.
Poland loaning 70 MIG's, that's a huge deal and it will seriously piss off Putin.
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Mar 4, 2022 13:30:00 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 4, 2022 13:30:00 GMT 12
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Mar 4, 2022 13:37:44 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Mar 4, 2022 13:37:44 GMT 12
Russian troops are shelling Europe's largest nuclear power station in Ukraine. FARRKKKK....that's taking retard to a new level.
Maybe Putin has clicked things aren't going well so he's ordered scorched earth using the 'if I can't have it no bugger will' theory.
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Mar 4, 2022 14:02:44 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 4, 2022 14:02:44 GMT 12
That nuclear power plant is a little disturbing. The tweats are that it is being bombarded from all sides, they need to stop the bombarbments so they can put the fire out. IF IT BLOWS, IT WILL BE 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN CHERNOBYL
Being the biggest NPP in europe, I don't think that is too much hyperbole.
This by itself may be enough to draw Europe into the war, especially given which way the wind blows around there...
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Mar 4, 2022 14:25:49 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 4, 2022 14:25:49 GMT 12
That nuclear power plant is a little disturbing. The tweats are that it is being bombarded from all sides, they need to stop the bombarbments so they can put the fire out. IF IT BLOWS, IT WILL BE 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN CHERNOBYL Being the biggest NPP in europe, I don't think that is too much hyperbole. This by itself may be enough to draw Europe into the war, especially given which way the wind blows around there... the plant is not in operation due to maintenance. There is fuel on site. The threat is the plant leaking the spent fuel into the air and crews not getting in to deal with it due to Pootin shooting at them. This is turning into a Parliament grounds occupation thing ... The woke leadership of the world have not gone in early enough to stop this invasion dead in its tracks. Now it is too big to deal with easily. |
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Mar 4, 2022 15:57:34 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 15:57:34 GMT 12
That nuclear power plant is a little disturbing. The tweats are that it is being bombarded from all sides, they need to stop the bombarbments so they can put the fire out. IF IT BLOWS, IT WILL BE 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN CHERNOBYL Being the biggest NPP in europe, I don't think that is too much hyperbole. This by itself may be enough to draw Europe into the war, especially given which way the wind blows around there... the plant is not in operation due to maintenance. There is fuel on site. The threat is the plant leaking the spent fuel into the air and crews not getting in to deal with it due to Pootin shooting at them. This is turning into a Parliament grounds occupation thing ... The woke leadership of the world have not gone in early enough to stop this invasion dead in its tracks. Now it is too big to deal with easily. errr nope. check that again... it's a currently an active nuclear power plant of the six reactors the one that got bombed is under maintenance and has fuel rods in it a fifth reactor is also under maintenance but there are 4 other reactors that are very much ready to take out all of europe if they explode... one of the six units is on fire, the reactor is under renovation and not operating, but contains nuclear fuel.[17][18] Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that, if the plant were to explode, the fallout could be 10 times larger than the Chernobyl disaster.[19] It has 6 VVER-1000 pressurized light water nuclear reactors (PWR), each generating 950 MWe, for a total power output of 5,700 MWe.[1] The first five were successively brought online between 1985 and 1989, and the sixth was added in 1995. The plant generates nearly half of the country's electricity derived from nuclear power,[2] and more than a fifth of total electricity generated in Ukraine.[3] the particular |
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Mar 4, 2022 16:44:10 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 4, 2022 16:44:10 GMT 12
the plant is not in operation due to maintenance. There is fuel on site. The threat is the plant leaking the spent fuel into the air and crews not getting in to deal with it due to Pootin shooting at them. This is turning into a Parliament grounds occupation thing ... The woke leadership of the world have not gone in early enough to stop this invasion dead in its tracks. Now it is too big to deal with easily. errr nope. check that again... it's a currently an active nuclear power plant of the six reactors the one that got bombed is under maintenance and has fuel rods in it a fifth reactor is also under maintenance but there are 4 other reactors that are very much ready to take out all of europe if they explode... one of the six units is on fire, the reactor is under renovation and not operating, but contains nuclear fuel.[17][18] Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that, if the plant were to explode, the fallout could be 10 times larger than the Chernobyl disaster.[19] It has 6 VVER-1000 pressurized light water nuclear reactors (PWR), each generating 950 MWe, for a total power output of 5,700 MWe.[1] The first five were successively brought online between 1985 and 1989, and the sixth was added in 1995. The plant generates nearly half of the country's electricity derived from nuclear power,[2] and more than a fifth of total electricity generated in Ukraine.[3] the particular RNZ just said the fire was in a training building outside of the perimeter. So who is right? You didn't post a link for the references you made. PS, who are you, and why are you already on my ignore list, but with a new user name? Are you the ghost of deleted, deleted, deleted or deleted? |
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Mar 4, 2022 17:16:14 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 17:16:14 GMT 12
errr nope. check that again... it's a currently an active nuclear power plant of the six reactors the one that got bombed is under maintenance and has fuel rods in it a fifth reactor is also under maintenance but there are 4 other reactors that are very much ready to take out all of europe if they explode... one of the six units is on fire, the reactor is under renovation and not operating, but contains nuclear fuel.[17][18] Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that, if the plant were to explode, the fallout could be 10 times larger than the Chernobyl disaster.[19] It has 6 VVER-1000 pressurized light water nuclear reactors (PWR), each generating 950 MWe, for a total power output of 5,700 MWe.[1] The first five were successively brought online between 1985 and 1989, and the sixth was added in 1995. The plant generates nearly half of the country's electricity derived from nuclear power,[2] and more than a fifth of total electricity generated in Ukraine.[3] the particular RNZ just said the fire was in a training building outside of the perimeter. So who is right? You didn't post a link for the references you made. PS, who are you, and why are you already on my ignore list, but with a new user name? Are you the ghost of deleted, deleted, deleted or deleted? i don't know what to believe any more... Nuclear plant spokesman Andriy Tuz told Ukrainian television that shells were falling directly on the facility and had set fire to one of its six reactors. That reactor is under renovation and not operating, but there is nuclear fuel inside, he said.
that phrase is all over the internet in dozens of news articles but that don't make it true... your news makes me feel much better and is also all over the internet so i might go with that hahaha but fuck, there is a fire AND the plant is active and running and making power... it's not in maintenance a fire and bombing and misslies in the biggest active nuclear station in europe isn't good no matter where in the fire is Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine said |
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Mar 4, 2022 18:02:35 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 4, 2022 18:02:35 GMT 12
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