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Post by eri on Mar 6, 2022 18:16:45 GMT 12
The Ukrainian military has advised civilian defence volunteers to ignore armoured vehicles and instead attack fuel trucks, which are unarmored and often driven by poorly trained Russian soldiers. Cutting off the fuel supply turns tanks and rocket artillery vehicles into road obstacles, said Zagorodnyuk, now chairman of the Centre for Defence Strategies, a Ukrainian think tank.Russia's advantage is fighting conventional battles with tanks and mechanized infantry, said Rob Lee, a Russia military expert and a senior fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute. The opportunity for Ukraine to undercut that, he said, is to focus attacks with antitank weapons and antiaircraft missiles and target forces in the dark using modern night vision goggles and thermal optics.(because its so cold the vehicles are sitting idling with their engines running to provide heat) US lawmaker Jason Crow, an Army veteran who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, visited Ukraine in recent weeks. That its military remains decentralised - one of the deficiencies preventing Ukraine from joining NATO - might be among its best assets in this war, he said in an interview."Disparate pockets of resistance, and you're seeing battalion-level units fighting independently, which . . . is maybe a blessing in disguise," Crow said. "It's actually helping them now, because . . . they're not relying on the centralised command-and-control systems.www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300533749/ukraines-military-adapts-tactics-after-enduring-russias-initial-invasion
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Mar 7, 2022 10:52:41 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 7, 2022 10:52:41 GMT 12
that's the sad thing about this. Poor Ukraine are on their own. Surly if every / or many nations band together and send in forces to take out every Russian tank trespassing on Ukraine soil then Pootin can't say it's war... A bit like defending an intruder on you property!? Just the threat off a multi nation defence force threatening to take down the Ruskies world make Pootin think twice?.. |
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Mar 7, 2022 11:41:15 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 7, 2022 11:41:15 GMT 12
that's the sad thing about this. Poor Ukraine are on their own. Surly if every / or many nations band together and send in forces to take out every Russian tank trespassing on Ukraine soil then Pootin can't say it's war... A bit like defending an intruder on you property!? Just the threat off a multi nation defence force threatening to take down the Ruskies world make Pootin think twice?.. Europe's primary focus isn't Ukraine right now, it is preventing the spread of this conflict. Europe can't support Ukraine or accommodate the refugees if it is also being attacked. Having a quick look at history, direct military response isn't normally the answer. Example, USSR invaded Afghanistan. That war was so expensive it bankrupted the USSR and led directly to its collapse. Afghanistan was a very good example of asymmetric warfare. So was Chechnya, where Russia's military might really struggled to press an advantage. Basically militia / gorillas doing hit and runs. This is not tank on tank battles, or latest tech jet fighter supremacy. This is harassing fuel tankers and supply trucks with small arms and petrol bombs. Road side bombs, IED's like in Iraq. That slows the conflict and makes sure Ukraine 'does not loose'. It looks like Ukraine is already doing this, along with 'barricading' their main cities. Then, we just need the west to strangle Russia's economy. The main issue is that Germany, Italy are stull buying Russian gas. Germany is funding Russia's war. That is why Putin moved now, Europe are dependent on his gas, having tried switching to green energy, then shutting everything else down due to covid. Brazil is reliant on Russian fertiliser. In this case, a direct military response will lead very quickly to an all out war with Russia. That will go nuclear very quickly, which would leave Ukraine far worse off, and most likely destroy large parts of the Northern hemisphere. To win that war, you would need to wipe Russia off the map, which is a big call. The key to this conflict is making sure the sanctions are effective. No work arounds, no third party countries (like China) and no back doors. The west will hurt because Russia is the 3rd largest oil exporter. But it is probably cheaper to pay more at the pump and for freight than it is to pay for more bombs and missiles. Also makes EV's look attractive, but that would be thread drift ;-) |
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Post by Fogg on Mar 7, 2022 14:01:25 GMT 12
Journalists of NZ take note. Maybe more of you need to do an OE to learn how it’s really done instead of going from media studies at Auckland Uni to a junior reporter at NZ MSM and thinking you are ‘bravely telling the truth’: Thank God the bullet that hit me missed my vital organs: mol.im/a/10583945 |
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Mar 7, 2022 14:13:49 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 7, 2022 14:13:49 GMT 12
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Mar 7, 2022 16:36:35 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 7, 2022 16:36:35 GMT 12
Journalists of NZ take note. Maybe more of you need to do an OE to learn how it’s really done instead of going from media studies at Auckland Uni to a junior reporter at NZ MSM and thinking you are ‘bravely telling the truth’: Thank God the bullet that hit me missed my vital organs: mol.im/a/10583945 nicely said👍 |
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Mar 7, 2022 16:43:24 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 7, 2022 16:43:24 GMT 12
that's the sad thing about this. Poor Ukraine are on their own. Surly if every / or many nations band together and send in forces to take out every Russian tank trespassing on Ukraine soil then Pootin can't say it's war... A bit like defending an intruder on you property!? Just the threat off a multi nation defence force threatening to take down the Ruskies world make Pootin think twice?.. Europe's primary focus isn't Ukraine right now, it is preventing the spread of this conflict. Europe can't support Ukraine or accommodate the refugees if it is also being attacked. Having a quick look at history, direct military response isn't normally the answer. Example, USSR invaded Afghanistan. That war was so expensive it bankrupted the USSR and led directly to its collapse. Afghanistan was a very good example of asymmetric warfare. So was Chechnya, where Russia's military might really struggled to press an advantage. Basically militia / gorillas doing hit and runs. This is not tank on tank battles, or latest tech jet fighter supremacy. This is harassing fuel tankers and supply trucks with small arms and petrol bombs. Road side bombs, IED's like in Iraq. That slows the conflict and makes sure Ukraine 'does not loose'. It looks like Ukraine is already doing this, along with 'barricading' their main cities. Then, we just need the west to strangle Russia's economy. The main issue is that Germany, Italy are stull buying Russian gas. Germany is funding Russia's war. That is why Putin moved now, Europe are dependent on his gas, having tried switching to green energy, then shutting everything else down due to covid. Brazil is reliant on Russian fertiliser. In this case, a direct military response will lead very quickly to an all out war with Russia. That will go nuclear very quickly, which would leave Ukraine far worse off, and most likely destroy large parts of the Northern hemisphere. To win that war, you would need to wipe Russia off the map, which is a big call. The key to this conflict is making sure the sanctions are effective. No work arounds, no third party countries (like China) and no back doors. The west will hurt because Russia is the 3rd largest oil exporter. But it is probably cheaper to pay more at the pump and for freight than it is to pay for more bombs and missiles. Also makes EV's look attractive, but that would be thread drift ;-) good point, however Europe could quickly change their focus if Pootin was made to retreat with his tail between his legs. Bullies are usually chickens standing behind offensive weapon's ( mouths included) |
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Mar 7, 2022 21:59:59 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 7, 2022 21:59:59 GMT 12
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Post by armchairadmiral on Mar 8, 2022 7:27:11 GMT 12
Did you hear NZ Foreign Minister Mahuta on ZB this morning over NZ assistance to Ukraine? Totally embarrassing . As Hosking said....bloody hell ! Sanctions which will have little effect and some blankets. Humanitarian aid seems the limit.Well Minister Mahuta thats not acceptable....unless of course you are trying to have 10 bob each way and not piss off your mate Putin. She was inarticulate,indecisive and was hiding behind the UN which of course is a hypocritical talk fest. Makes Neville Chamberlain's dealing with Hitler look tough. Those that voted for these patsys should be ashamed.This issue is beyond politics and ideology. Ukraine is blameless in creating this war. Any differences should be via diplomacy and dare I raise it the UN (Useless Negotiators)
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Mar 8, 2022 7:36:13 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 8, 2022 7:36:13 GMT 12
Did you hear NZ Foreign Minister Mahuta on ZB this morning over NZ assistance to Ukraine? Totally embarrassing . As Hosking said....bloody hell ! Sanctions which will have little effect and some blankets. Humanitarian aid seems the limit.Well Minister Mahuta thats not acceptable....unless of course you are trying to have 10 bob each way and not piss off your mate Putin. She was inarticulate,indecisive and was hiding behind the UN which of course is a hypocritical talk fest. Makes Neville Chamberlain's dealing with Hitler look tough. Those that voted for these patsys should be ashamed.This issue is beyond politics and ideology. Ukraine is blameless in creating this war. Any differences should be via diplomacy and dare I raise it the UN (Useless Negotiators) I heard to. She was reading off an Ardern song script written by the spin team. Humanitarian assistance is like the ambulance at the bottom of the hill trying to fix the broken bodies. ... Typical labour! They never front the issue at the top of the hill! Being kind to dead bodies is pathetic. At least the Maori got guns for their blankets! 🤔🤔🤔... 🤔 Maybe the Ukrainians could trade in the blankets. I'd rather be cold than Dead! |
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Post by armchairadmiral on Mar 8, 2022 7:38:05 GMT 12
Just had a brilliant thought. The bimbo and her weak gutless government could send all those dangerous weapons she confiscated from honest lawabiding kiwis. That would be a win win.NZ gets rid of the guns and Ukraine gets practical help
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Mar 8, 2022 8:33:49 GMT 12
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 8, 2022 8:33:49 GMT 12
Just had a brilliant thought. The bimbo and her weak gutless government could send all those dangerous weapons she confiscated from honest lawabiding kiwis. That would be a win win.NZ gets rid of the guns and Ukraine gets practical help 👏👏👏👏👏 brilliance!... One problem?... I think She scrapped them! I noticed she hasn't had the guts to send back the ambassador! And she hasn't had a "Conversation of kindness" with Pootin yet!... Fucking lame, woke, Virtual signaller! All silk skirt and no undies? |
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Mar 8, 2022 10:12:53 GMT 12
Post by eri on Mar 8, 2022 10:12:53 GMT 12
australia promised $50 million of weapons and ammunition
apparently a lot of this is now on the ground in ukraine
have our blankets arrived?
or does labour's inability to deliver
mean they won't arrive until summer
Ukrainian forces have taken back the city of Chuhuiv, with defence officials saying Russia suffered "heavy losses in the battle",
including the deaths of two high ranking officials.
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Mar 8, 2022 10:24:44 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 8, 2022 10:24:44 GMT 12
No one has mentioned refugees yet. As in NZ bringing in loads of refugees. Maldova is full. literal, 1 in 8 kids in Maldova right now is from Ukraine, the Maldovans are sharing their houses, and they are literally full.
Love to see Adern's compassion actually equate to meangful action. Doesn't have to be random refugees with no links to NZ. There are plenty of Ukrainians in NZ with connections to family over there, create a visa category and bring them in.
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Mar 8, 2022 10:39:02 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Mar 8, 2022 10:39:02 GMT 12
A friend of mine - with a small tech company - said he would offer relocation & jobs to (1) Developers and (2) Supermodels 🙄
On a more serious note, I know that several large global companies with staff in Ukraine are flying them out - complete with their families - to any destination they want to go and helping them with emergency visas, relocation and continued employment (by re-deploying them to continue working in a new country).
Occasionally the big corporates can do the right thing 😊
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